Turkey massacre of 2011 is over, next 2012. I hope Obama loses next year though I see no good alternatives.

looooool@NGONGE Nuune has good campaigners.

Carafaat;761176 wrote: Your faith in patriotism is weak bro. What do you care if there is antitheses to your thesis. An antitheses should only make your thesis and thus patriotism only stronger. But I see it does the opposite. It makes you doubt your faith in it and therefór your whole case. You are trying to have your cake and eat it too, only if the world was that simple:-)

^A member has to invite you and you will be vetted by other members. Juxa....Tolkiisa iyo asxaabtiisa meesha waa ku badanyihiin. Even NGONGE can do quraan session but if you are asking to take initiative, I can gladly do that as long as I'm not accused of siding with him in this contest.

^Tolkiisa meesha kuma yara that's if he's what some people actually think he's. We can ask Zack, Xiin, and A&T. Carafaat....If you have to ask how to join than you are probably not fit to join.

^I wish all of Somalia the best but does not negate the fact that there are forces in the north whose goals are diametrically opposed to Somalia and who embraced an ideology that will divide Somalia irrespective of any achievement. Simply put,no patriot will support Somaliland's ultimate objective which I imagine you yearn.

^ Wanaagsan oo wacan. You will be on Somali I like muran..lool I tried to be as objective as possible and not let my personal feeling to taint the nominations. I think if there's one nomination tainted with my personal feelings is Nuune's nomination for thread started by me. Many suggested that I should have nominated for his Jin stories. Other than that, I would say the nominations are fair.

^No denying that boy's club exists but in this case, sex was not determining factor atleast consciously. I have also been accused of nominating how folks who are hardly here or whose names are not recognized by majority of Solers. I (we) nominated people that I felt were deserving. The 'we' can not be disclosed but I'm their public face and spokesperson.

^It's while and Nuune is leading the vote. Val...It's word play, semantics you see :-)

^I am not sure I follow you there but if you are talking about Somaliland patriotism. I imagine that exists but it's only relevant to those who consider themselves to be part of that entity and doesn't apply to Somalis elsewhere nor it does contribute to the oneness of the Somali nation. In fact, it is antithesis of Somali unity.

Carafaat..Their achievement is irrelevant to this argument, If there was any measure of patriotism, secession is not winning criteria. It is stumbling block that can not be overlooked or embraced regardless anything Sland might have attained in terms of good governance and socioeconomic development. There's little pride in treachery.

Well, if Somaliland is different country as argued by you, why should a Somali give rat's **** about your achievements specially amidst in our own chaos not to mention our political and economic objectives wouldn't necessarily be the same. And if we consider Somaliland to be part of Somali proper, then how could secessionist possible be in position to question people's patriotism considering the very act of secession is outright treacherous and anti-Somali.

^No, thanks but you can go ahead and change urs.

^N you be Condie :-)

How's occupying Somali lands better off?

^You are not making sense.

Who would you have nominated Val?

You seem to have a thing or two for these sort of women.

^CL koo geeljire ah aa lagday. I don't like Dubia for some reason, Doha maybe or even Muscat.

Xiin's biggest mistake was believing Sharif could deliver as leader.

I haven't spoken Urdu for so long, it slowly going away,

Xiin....Interesting reasoning Fazliyah...We couldn't find thread warranting a nomination. Juxa...Not nominating enough women for the award is not intentional attempt to discriminate or turn the place into boy's club. We merely choose people who we sincerely thought had interesting and importantly useful threads/posts.

Zenawi's two squabbling housewives

But it's OK to support another enemy who sought the help of Netanyahu.

^LooooL