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  1. GarYaQaaN, You said it perfectly. The people in 'SomaliaLand' always tend to forget that Said Barre first attacked the region now called 'Puntland' in 1977. When their women were raped, the men slaughtered, their waterholes destroyed etc. You dont hear them calling for an independent state, do you? What about the Somalis which suffered the most, those living in the Bay and Bakool regions in the height of the civil war, hundreds of thousands of them starved to death and their land stolen. All I see is arrogance, lies and deceit coming from the so called 'SomaliLanders'. Nabad.
  2. SamiGirl, The sadest part is that you actually believe all the nonsense your saying....
  3. SomaliaOnline-President, I understand what your saying now. I wanted to ask why dont the Palistinians have these anti tank missiles--since the yahuud have M1A1 Abrams tanks like the US? I have also read that in 1998 Syria bought 500+ Kornet E's from Russia--these would be a lot more effective against tanks in Palestine then rocks/stones. What do you guys think?
  4. SomaliaOnline-President, The Kornet E is suppose to be able to hit tanks/armoured vehicles up to 6,000 yards. I dont see how they would be exposed to fire from enemy forces from that distance and in that short amount of time.
  5. Shyhem Thanks for the info. I had no idea the Iraqi's had Kornet-E anti-tank guided missiles. Very advance.I did a search and here is a report by ABCNews. One http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/world/SciTech/iraq_kornetFAQ030327.html
  6. Xassan, The Iraqis can use Depleted Uranium. That's what the americans use to slice through anything with their "precision" BOMBS...Although that does lead to cancer in the civilian population... God help the Iraqi People. I hope the American/British aggressors will make Iraq their GRAVE...Maybe that will take their arrogance away. Salaam
  7. HornAfik, Moqdishu might be 1,ooo years old but it has only been the capital of Somalia for 31 years(1960-1991). If my math is right thats only 3.1% of Xamar's whole existence. There are many older somali cities then Xamar. Take Zaila(or berbera bosaso or maydh)which has existed since the days of the pharoahs and are mentioned by Greeks chinese hindu arabs etc. So we should keep xamar as the capital of all Somalis because they were the capital for 3.1% of their history.... :confused: Or maybe your saying that since Xamar was built by persians--that's the reason it should be the capital?!? Let's Not Make The Same Mistake TWICE. P.S.
  8. Sorry I had a problem with the article above. It's fixed now. Ma'salaam.
  9. The Guardian Newspaper @ www.Guardian.co.uk US thinktanks give lessons in foreign policy Brian Whitaker reports on the network of research institutes whose views and TV appearances are supplanting all other experts on Middle Eastern issues Monday August 19, 2002 A little-known fact about Richard Perle, the leading advocate of hardline policies at the Pentagon, is that he once wrote a political thriller. The book, appropriately called Hard Line, is set in the days of the cold war with the Soviet Union. Its hero is a male senior official at the Pentagon, working late into the night and battling almost single-handedly to rescue the US from liberal wimps at the state department who want to sign away America's nuclear deterrent in a disarmament deal with the Russians. Ten years on Mr Perle finds himself cast in the real-life role of his fictional hero - except that the Russians are no longer a threat, so he has to make do with the Iraqis, the Saudis and terrorism in general. In real life too, Mr Perle is not fighting his battle single-handed. Around him there is a cosy and cleverly-constructed network of Middle East "experts" who share his neo-conservative outlook and who pop up as talking heads on US television, in newspapers, books, testimonies to congressional committees, and at lunchtime gatherings in Washington. The network centres on research institutes - thinktanks that attempt to influence government policy and are funded by tax-deductible gifts from unidentified donors. When he is not too busy at the Pentagon, or too busy running Hollinger Digital - part of the group that publishes the Daily Telegraph in Britain - or at board meetings of the Jerusalem Post, Mr Perle is "resident fellow" at one of the thinktanks - the American Enterprise Institute (AEI). Mr Perle's close friend and political ally at AEI is David Wurmser, head of its Middle East studies department. Mr Perle helpfully wrote the introduction to Mr Wurmser's book, Tyranny's Ally: America's Failure to Defeat Saddam Hussein. Mr Wurmser's wife, Meyrav, is co-founder, along with Colonel Yigal Carmon, formerly of Israeli military intelligence - of the Middle East Media Research Institute (Memri), which specialises in translating and distributing articles that show Arabs in a bad light. She also holds strong views on leftwing Israeli intellectuals, whom she regards as a threat to Israel (see "Selective Memri", Guardian Unlimited, August 12, 2002). Ms Wurmser currently runs the Middle East section at another thinktank - the Hudson Institute, where Mr Perle recently joined the board of trustees. In addition, Ms Wurmser belongs to an organisation called the Middle East Forum. Michael Rubin, a specialist on Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan, who recently arrived from yet another thinktank, the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, assists Mr Perle and Mr Wurmser at AEI. Mr Rubin also belongs to the Middle East Forum. Another Middle East scholar at AEI is Laurie Mylroie, author of Saddam Hussein's Unfinished War Against America, which expounds a rather daft theory that Iraq was behind the 1993 World Trade Centre bombing. When the book was published by the AEI, Mr Perle hailed it as "splendid and wholly convincing". An earlier book on Iraq Saddam Hussein and the Crisis in the Gulf which Ms Mylroie co-authored with Judith Miller, a New York Times journalist, became the New York Times's No 1 bestseller. Ms Mylroie and Ms Miller both have connections with the Middle East Forum. Mr Perle, Mr Rubin, Ms Wurmser, Ms Mylroie and Ms Miller are all clients of Eleana Benador, a Peruvian-born linguist who acts as a sort of theatrical agent for experts on the Middle East and terrorism, organising their TV appearances and speaking engagements. Of the 28 clients on Ms Benador's books, at least nine are connected with the AEI, the Washington Institute and the Middle East Forum. Although these three privately-funded organisations promote views from only one end of the political spectrum, the amount of exposure that they get with their books, articles and TV appearances is extraordinary. The Washington Institute, for example, takes the credit for placing up to 90 articles written by its members - mainly "op-ed" pieces - in newspapers during the last year. Fourteen of those appeared in the Los Angeles Times, nine in New Republic, eight in the Wall Street Journal, eight in the Jerusalem Post, seven in the National Review Online, six in the Daily Telegraph, six in the Washington Post, four in the New York Times and four in the Baltimore Sun. Of the total, 50 were written by Michael Rubin. Anyone who has tried offering op-ed articles to a major newspaper will appreciate the scale of this achievement. The media attention bestowed on these thinktanks is not for want of other experts in the field. American universities have about 1,400 full-time faculty members specialising in the Middle East. Of those, an estimated 400-500 are experts on some aspect of contemporary politics in the region, but their views are rarely sought or heard, either by the media or government. "I see a parade of people from these institutes coming through as talking heads [on cable TV]. I very seldom see a professor from a university on those shows," says Juan Cole, professor of history at Michigan University, who is a critic of the private institutes. "Academics [at universities] are involved in analysing what's going on but they're not advocates, so they don't have the same impetus," he said. "The expertise on the Middle East that exists in the universities is not being utilised, even for basic information." Of course, very few academics have agents like Eleana Benador to promote their work and very few are based in Washington - which can make arranging TV appearances , or rubbing shoulders with state department officials a bit difficult. Those who work for US thinktanks are often given university-style titles such as "senior fellow", or "adjunct scholar", but their research is very different from that of universities - it is entirely directed towards shaping government policy. What nobody outside the thinktanks knows, however, is who pays for this policy-shaping research. Under US law, large donations given to non-profit, "non-partisan" organisations such as thinktanks must be itemised in their annual "form 990" returns to the tax authorities. But the identity of donors does not need to be made public. The AEI, which deals with many other issues besides the Middle East, had assets of $35.8m (£23.2m) and an income of $24.5m in 2000, according to its most recent tax return. It received seven donations of $1m or above in cash or shares, the highest being $3.35m. The Washington Institute, which deals only with Middle East policy, had assets of $11.2m and an income of $4.1m in 2000. The institute says its donors are identifiable because they are also its trustees, but the list of trustees contains 239 names which makes it impossible to distinguish large benefactors from small ones. The smaller Middle East Forum had an income of less than $1.5m in 2000, with the largest single donation amounting to $355,000. In terms of their ability to influence policy, thinktanks have several advantages over universities. To begin with they can hire staff without committee procedures, which allows them to build up teams of researchers that share a similar political orientation. They can also publish books themselves without going through the academic refereeing processes required by university publishers. And they usually site themselves in Washington, close to government and the media. Apart from influencing policy on the Middle East, the Washington Institute and the Middle East Forum recently launched a campaign to discredit university departments that specialise in the region. After September 11, when various government agencies realised there was a shortage of Americans who could speak Arabic, there were moves to beef up the relevant university departments. But Martin Kramer, of the Washington Institute, Middle East Forum and former director of the Moshe Dayan Centre at Tel Aviv university, had other ideas. He produced a vitriolic book Ivory Towers on Sand, which criticised Middle East departments of universities in the US. His book was published by the Washington Institute and warmly reviewed in the Weekly Standard, whose editor, William Kristol, was a member of the Middle East Forum along with Mr Kramer. "Kramer has performed a crucial service by exposing intellectual rot in a scholarly field of capital importance to national wellbeing," the review said. The Washington Institute is considered the most influential of the Middle East thinktanks, and the one that the state department takes most seriously. Its director is the former US diplomat, Dennis Ross. Besides publishing books and placing newspaper articles, the institute has a number of other activities that for legal purposes do not constitute lobbying, since this would change its tax status. It holds lunches and seminars, typically about three times a week, where ideas are exchanged and political networking takes place. It has also given testimony to congressional committees nine times in the last five years. Every four years, it convenes a "bipartisan blue-ribbon commission" known as the Presidential study group, which presents a blueprint for Middle East policy to the newly-elected president. The institute makes no secret of its extensive links with Israel, which currently include the presence of two scholars from the Israeli armed forces. Israel is an ally and the connection is so well known that officials and politicians take it into account when dealing with the institute. But it would surely be a different matter if the ally concerned were a country such as Egypt, Pakistan or Saudi Arabia. Apart from occasional lapses, such as the publication of Mr Kramer's book, the Washington Institute typically represents the considered, sober voice of American-Israeli conservatism. The Middle East Forum is its strident voice - two different tones, but mostly the same people. Three prominent figures from the Washington Institute - Robert Satloff (director of policy), Patrick Clawson (director of research) and Mr Rubin (prolific writer, currently at AEI) - also belong to the forum. Daniel Pipes, the bearded $100,000-a-year head of the forum is listed as an "associate" at the institute, while Mr Kramer, editor of the forum's journal, is a "visiting fellow". Mr Pipes became the bete noire of US Muslim organisations after writing an article for the National Review in 1990 that referred to "massive immigration of brown-skinned peoples cooking strange foods and not exactly maintaining Germanic standards of hygiene". Since he usually complains vigorously when the words are quoted outside their original context, readers are invited to view the full article at www.danielpipes.org. He is also noted for his combative performances on the Fox News channel, where he has an interesting business relationship. Search for his name on the Fox News website and, along with transcripts of his TV interviews, an advert appears saying "Daniel Pipes is available thru Barber & Associates, America's leading resource for business, international and technology speakers since 1977". The Middle East Forum issues two regular publications, the Middle East Quarterly and the Middle East Intelligence Bulletin, the latter published jointly with the United States Committee for a Free Lebanon. The Middle East Quarterly describes itself as "a bold, insightful, and controversial publication". Among the insights in its latest issue is an article on weapons of mass destruction that says Syria "has more destructive capabilities" than Iraq, or Iran. The Middle East Intelligence Bulletin, which is sent out by email free of charge - but can never-the-less afford to pay its contributors - specialises in covering the seamy side of Lebanese and Syrian politics. The ever-active Mr Rubin is on its editorial board. The Middle East Forum also targets universities through its campus speakers Bureau - that in adopting the line of Mr Kramer's book, seeks to correct "inaccurate Middle Eastern curricula in American education", by addressing "biases" and "basic errors" and providing "better information" than students can get from the many "irresponsible" professors that it believes lurk in US universities. At a time when much of the world is confused by what it sees as an increasingly bizarre set of policies on the Middle East coming from Washington, to understand the neat little network outlined above may make such policies a little more explicable. Of course these people and organisations are not the only ones trying to influence US policy on the Middle East. There are others who try to influence it too - in different directions. However, this particular network is operating in a political climate that is currently especially receptive to its ideas. It is also well funded by its anonymous benefactors and is well organised. Ideas sown by one element are watered and nurtured by the others. Whatever outsiders may think about this, worldly-wise Americans see no cause for disquiet. It's just a coterie of like-minded chums going about their normal business, and an everyday story of political life in Washington. Email brian.whitaker@guardian.co.uk
  10. I think it is very simple for Saddam to defend Iraq. 1st. Launch a pre emptive attack on US forces in Kuwait using AlSamoud 2 and Scud missiles. Cause as much casualties as possible. 2nd. Blow up all Iraqi oil fields to disrupt/delay arial bombardement and financial gain from oil should the US win. BTW it took 8+ months to get the Kuwaiti oils fields up and running after the Gulf War. 3rd. Move all military personelle/equipment into the cities--Basra, Baghdad, Kirkuk, Tikrit etc. because in GW1 Saddams forces were killed off like flies in the open desert. 4th. Wait out the bombing and fight American soldier street to street--we all remember Xamar aka Black hawk down. 5th. Film all Iraqi casualties and distribute them to foreign news companies. Thats all I can think of now--seems the war will start Wednesday after 8 pm ET. Let's pray for the Iraqi people...
  11. Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar The only reason all the different somali groups moved to Xamar is because that was the only place with things like toilets, hospitals, schools, AC, etc. Basically Somalia was a city-state--not a country. Siad barre spent 60% of the nations wealth in xamar--the rest in defense. It's mind-boggling to think that we should keep Xamar as the capital because of the "excellent" weather...only in Somalia. I dont know if you know this but Somalia has the longest beachline in Africa--so a city with access to the Ocean other then Xamar is NOT a problem. And to say also that Xamar is still the richest city in Somalia--shows that you have not been back there in a while. Even Places like Baydoa are better off then xamar...But to suggest that xamar is STILL the jewel of Somalia is a joke. Listen to the news--last week 100+ people have been killed there in fighting There are dozens of warlords in xamar--and if you think they'll just put down their guns and drop off their technicals...then you are very naive my friend. But everyone has their own opinions. And thats my 2cents. 1 PS I wish there was space for an "Anywhere but Xamar" vote...oh well.
  12. BN

    Punt Land

    Xassan Nasra Allah, You are right that there was a protection treaties between Majerteen Sultanates and Italy between 7 April 1889/December 1888 and renewed in April 1895. But facist Italy wanted to turn NE Somalia into a colony--not just a protectorate. So from 1925-1927 Italy and the Majerteen sultanates fought numerous bloody battles. Not to mention a blockade of NE Somalia by Italian ships and bombardement of coastal cities and heavy loss of civilian life. Finally incorporating them into the Italian Somalia in 1927. For more info search online under "Majerteen Sultanate" or "Hobyo Sultanate". Excerpt from an online source: http://www.somaliawatch.org/archivefeb01/010411601.htm "After two years of devastating war in which thousands of civilians died and the entire economy of the sultanate was ruined, razing all coastal towns and villages, the Italian colonial administration could boast that it had broken the Majeerteen resistance and put an end to an era in Somaliland. Boqor Osman fled to the British Somaliland, but was handed back to the Italians. In November the formal act of surrender took place in Hurdia, and Boqor Osman dramatically consigned his sword to Governor De Vecchi. Later Boqor Osman was exiled to Muqdisho. With the elimination of the north-eastern sultanates and the breaking of the Benaadir resistance, from this period henceforth, Italian Somaliland was to become a reality. The partition of Somaliland was already shaping during this period and the fate of the Somalis was at the mercy of the colonial powers." As for slavery--this is just what I have read, and not what I think. Here is an excerpt from one source: http://www.unsomalia.org/presscenter/pressreleases/20021002_1.htm "The Somali Bantu are living reminders of the once widespread and lucrative Indian Ocean slave trade. Their history as a distinct group began around the turn of the 18th century when the sultan of Zanzibar and other slave lords captured their forefathers in Malawi, Tanzania and Mozambique and sold them into slavery in Somalia." For more information search online. This is a another link: http://www.refugees.org/world/articles/bantu_rr99_12.htm 1LUV
  13. Galkayo Telephone Company (GALCOM) STG(Somali Telecom Group) Al-Barakaat Telecommunications Barakaat Communications Barakaat-Red Sea-Puntland Barakaat-GlobalTel-Somaliland Telecoms Somalia Pre 1990-Public Switch Transmission Network Most offer internet service as well in most cities/towns. 1luv
  14. Galkayo Telephone Company (GALCOM) STG(Somali Telecom Group) Al-Barakaat Telecommunications Barakaat Communications Barakaat-Red Sea-Puntland Barakaat-GlobalTel-Somaliland Telecoms Somalia Pre 1990-Public Switch Transmission Network Most offer internet service as well in most cities/towns. 1luv
  15. Waaq,Annunaki, First of all we tried centralist government for 30 years.It didnt work as you can see... :cool: We have never tried federalism/confederation, so lets give it a chance. And dont make excuses like it costs too much etc. :mad: Federalism has worked all over the world, and it will work in Somalia. By the way, many regions dont want to reunite with out federalism(NW,NE,SW,Central) So anyone who longs for the "good old days" of a one city state, in which most of the people's local concerns are not met-can keep dreaming. In a federal state, local governments have obligations to their people. And they will have the authority&money to deal with those issues. 1Luv
  16. As a nationalist I think that we should use our own customary law or xeer. We should not be using western or arabic laws. I dont think that someone should be stoned to death for adultry like Nigera. That is for God to judge. Or have their hands chopped off for stealing. That is bad for the person and bad for the economy because they can not work/or pay taxes. It is bad for society because now they have to care for that person. We should settle matters the our own way. PS I stole some gum when I was 12, they called my mom :eek: and That was the last time I did THAT. Much more affective way to discourage that kind of behavior. 1 Luv
  17. Why is Xamar Sacrosant? Is it better then any other city? Why does it deserve to be the capital? :confused: Not to mention the hundreds of millions in foreign aid it will take to rebuild it. Sound familiar? Well thats whats been happening from 1960-91 at the xpense of the rest of Somalia. :mad: What about the different warlords and faction leaders? It doesnt look like they want to give up power and bring peace to Mogadishu. There are many other cities who deserve a chance to shine. 1Luv
  18. BN

    Punt Land

    Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar, I wrote what I had read. It is not something I am proud of, or felt like writing. And I was not trying to "imply" anything. :mad: You could just as easily have searched for facts online or in historical books instead of giving me your thoughts as "facts". "I don't think any 'bilis' Soomaali were ever slave to another Soomaali. That is a fact." :confused: Somehow if you dont think something is true, then that means it isnt true? I also dont believe in a "pure" somali. Somalis are mixed of many groups, so how can any one claim to be "pure"? A somali is someone who lives in somalia or speaks somali. Period. Look at the USA, do they distinguish themselves as "pure" and non pure americans? Kisima, Very interesting article on somali history. But you forgot to mention the Majerteen Sultanates. Circa 1600-1927. It was destroyed fighting off the Italian fascists. I actually read Richard Burtons book, very interesting. You should read margaret laurence's book The Prophet’s Camel Bell, written in the 1950's Somaliland protectorate. Includes pictures 2:D ILuv 2 All Somalis.
  19. BN

    Punt Land

    Actually I read that not only did somalis trade in slaves with the arabs but they also kept slaves. These were mostly in the southern agricultural regions between the two rivers. It was the Italians that abolished slavery in Somalia in the early 1900's. *************************** I think we should make a formal apology to these groups, make full reparations and intergrate them socially, politically, and economically. ****************. We all recall what happened in Baidoa when no food was allowed in to feed the drought sticken ppl. 1Luv
  20. Where do you guys think the new capital city should be? Or maybe you guys think the capital should stay in Mogadishu. Either way, vote now!
  21. HornAfrique, I think the next president should be a WOMAN. They are the only people who care about somalis. All others care about POWER and Money. Indonesia.200 million muslims. Woman President. Pakistan. 150 million muslims. Former Woman President Any good candidates? I'm sure that there are alot of well educated female somalis willing to lead. 1Luv
  22. Northerner, Isaaq want self determination? Fine. Give that same respect to Dulbahante, Gadabursi, issa, warsengeli clans. What I always fine hypocritical is that everytime non-isaaq clans in "Somali land" say we dont want dreamland republic. The Isaaq say the "territorial intergrity of Somaliland must be upheld...". :confused: Does this sound familiar? Well that is because that is what SomaliWeyn supporters say: Ina Salaad boy, Abdullahi, Aidiid, Tuur, Morgan, Shatiguduud etc. What hypocrits. :mad: I would just like to remind all the dreamlanders that the people of Sool and Sanaag have signed the Puntland charter in 1998. The are in the regional parliament and are in the cabinet as well. Not to mention that riyaal has absolutely no control/influence in sool or sanaag. This was proven: 1.When Riyaal travelled to LasCanod and was almost killed. 2.Forces of Jama Ali Jama were being chased out of Puntland by President Abdullahi Yusuf and were fighting last week in Sanaag province. Where was the 20,000 or 50,000 strong army you guys keep telling us about??? I guess they're all chewing qaat in hargeysa.. 1Luv
  23. Saanjo I agree. Somalis were always decentralized before the Europeans came. Look what happened when we created a One city State(Xamar). :mad: All major schools, hospitals, infrustructure, development etc. was concentrated in Muqdishu. This while most of the country was a No Mans Land(ie Bari) . Now that we are once again decentralized these regions are developing again. That is why I am opposed to centralized city state again. The only people in favour of that are xamraawiye or Hawiye people who want MQ to gain it's former beauty. Anyone who thinks decentralized wont be successful look at all the other confederations like Switzerland, UAE, Canada USA,etc. All rich developed powerful states. I also agree about weak president idea 2. 1LUV Liban