Tamil maybe, but arab? If A. Yusuf and his tribe at whatever level are Arabs, than I must be scandinavian lol. Jabarti has an entire tribe by his name in Eritrea, some say they may be related to somalia's tribes that claims the same descendance, but even they don't claim to be arabs. It's non-sense.

Originally posted by Baashi: Originally posted by AfricaOwn: [qb] Here is a reverse logic dhuubo: it goes like this: if Somalia is divisible so is Somaliland. Addigu bal tab dheh Not to mention Puntland's overlapping border or the robust case for Somalia's territorial integrity. Singing the same old song are you? how about this one, if Abyssinia is divisible than so is any other country. That is coming from many Ethiopian Historians or otherwise avg delusional Ethio who thinks the horn should bend to their will. They believe Somalia was an integral part of Abyssinia and they (somali territories) 'were the renegade province'. So what do you say to that old man and please try to convince these Ethiopians who have visions of grandeur about there lost Abyssinian empire as to why Somalia and Eritrea should not be an integral part of their territory? and if 'Abyssinia' is divisible than why not Somalia? P.S. Interesting Fact about the Quebec referendum, The day before the referendum was to take place the canadian military flew out most of their expensive equipment such as the CF-18 fighter jets out of quebec in the event of the 'YES' vote prevailed. That's how uncertain the times were. I believe the margin of victory was 51% to 49% for the NO with the YES leading most of the night until they got to the montreal region heavily populated with immigrants.

Originally posted by Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar: They are fighting for Soomaalinimo iyo Islaanimo, a feeling some so-called "Soomaalis" do not feel at all. Not an iota. Their hypocricy a thousand miles laga arki karo. I suppose this little bit here is self-descriptive^^

It's puzzling, it really is, how is the resistance in mogadishu continuing to fight on? tacticly they don't have a readily accessible source of supply. Traditionally when somali factions are at war, they get there supplies through Ethiopia, in this conflict Ethiopia is out of the question for obvious reasons. Kenya is allied with Ethiopia and the U.S. as always, so than where? I think its unprecedented, they just might be fighting on pure guts and adrenaline.

why bother make old ladies police officers? isnt there some physical they should pass before become a police officer anyway

Interesting use of Mandeeq, whom in recent times has become Synonymous with Somaliland. You always struck me more as the type to use expressions like 'jaale' or 'abihi qaranka' rather than the more symbolic Mandeeq.

waraa odayga yar he living comfortably, Niyo we need a welfare system in Somaliland, equal portions of the 'ceesh' for everybody.

this is odd, so the agreement goes back to 2002? Before he was a leader? That's way before any episodes in lascanood if I'm not mistaken so this is going to be interesting to watch as it unfolds.

Originally posted by NGONGE: I heard my country calling, away across the sea, Across the waste of waters she calls and calls to me. Her sword is girded at her side, her helmet on her head, And round her feet are lying the dying and the dead. I hear the noise of battle, the thunder of her guns, I haste to thee my mother, a son among thy sons. ps The words were taken from Cecil Spring-Rice's famous poem. The one starting: I vow to thee, my country, all earthly things above, Entire and whole and perfect, the service of my love; The love that asks no question, the love that stands the test, That lays 'pon the altar the dearest and the best; The love that never falters, the love that pays the price, The love that makes undaunted the final sacrifice. pps I bet the words gave my guru goose pimple Careful NGONGE, I don't think they take kindly to Turn Coats or Johnny-come-latelys in Somaliland, I see a dash of that blue flag hiden behind your new colours

I really don't get why the folks on this forum are so quick to write whatever comes across their minds no matter how erroneous or frankly ignorant it makes them look If I'm not mistaken this article is a linked to the STATE DEPARTMENT ?

Originally posted by Baashi: FACTS + Tanks that roam in Benadir get their gas fill through Berbera. + Riyale's admin has endorsed Ethiopia's "stabilizing effort" in Benadir. + Riyale's admin has rounded up innocent practicing Muslims, tortured them in their gulags and handed them over to Allambakho gaurds so they can have their ways with them until they fess up -- all of that just because of their tribal affiliation and their resistance against Ethiopian domination. The ties btw this Somali breakaway recovery zone and Ethiopia is based on many variables but allegedly security tops the list + Ethiopian army bounds them in their villages and the ones who escape to what they thought is safe for Muslim Somalis are rounded up and handed back to their tormentors. + Secessionists desire to be recognized trumps the immorality of being indifferent to their brethren’s plight. Where lies the truth in the SL gov endorsing 'stabalizing effort'? In a recent article if I'm not mistaking, wasn't it the ethiopian envoy who was quoted saying that his government and Somaliland did not agree on every issue including 'The presence of Foreign troops in Somalia'? As for your rather pathetic implicit analogy about the tanks, I can easily say YOUR tax dollars payed to the IRS fund the carnage being waged on the Somali peoples at the moment. Would that be any less of a 'fact'?

Lazy, your wrong about Rashard, he deserves every penny, yes he's had injury problem before, but he is exactly what they needeed in Orlando. As for your prediction I suppose we'll find out all in due time. As for Matrix, All I got to say is your not serious? the whole best defensive player part..lol. With Bruce Bowen lurking around you think he's the best? I think Matrix is an overated defender, yes he's got spectacular shot blocking and hops and fills the stats sheet (thanks to Nash), but his grit, positioning and footwork is WACK. He struggles with all the top scorers in the league and especially Kobe, but don't take my word for it, peep this video link below let me know what you think Raja Bell yes can stop ppl defensively but Seam Marion? http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=kobe+shawn+marion&search=Search

Lazie G, Your wrong about Dwight and the Magic, they are the real deal, I got Howard on my fantasy squad and drafted him early second round, my ppls were crackin jokes at me for doing that, there not laughing anymore 39 pts 15 rebounds and 5 blocks the last game. The addition of Rashard Lewis and the all star play of Hedo has turn the magic into the REAL DEAL. I predict them to go to the conference finals unless somebody can cripple man-child.

Originally posted by Muslim Somali: If Taiwan failed to get a seat in the united nation with its geopolitical importance, international awareness and resources, how do you think Somaliland can make it through and all of us know how Somaliland state depends totally on international community support combined with Tax revenues. ^On the contrary my misinformed friend, the biggest contributers to the Somaliland Economy and even more critically the countries infrastructure are Somalilanders from abroad. Mind you, it is much the same in other Somali territories with the exception of those considered as parcel to Ethiopia.

Utterly disgusting, the plight of the people is beyond disturbing. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7092212.stm Displaced in Somalia: Faduma Somalis describe their lives in and around the capital, Mogadishu, amidst violence between insurgents and government troops backed by Ethiopian forces. Mother-of-two Faduma, 22, has lived in a camp for displaced people in central Mogadishu since she fled south from Baidoa seven years ago. Injured Somali girl lies on the ground while she waits to be taken to hospital in Mogadishu (10/11/2007) Women and children in Mogadishu are especially vulnerable I actually returned to Baidoa in April this year when there was heavy fighting here in Mogadishu but I came back recently because my husband was hit in his face by a stray bullet and so I had to look after him. We have a lot problems - no food, no medicine and we can't just walk to go and find these things. We don't feel safe. There are children sick in our houses. When the children get sick we have no medical facility to go to so we just recite the Koran - or we use a traditional burning method where you give a small burn on a different part of the body depending on what sort of sickness the baby has. Or we try herbal medicine. There are a few hospitals near our camp but they don't accept us because we don't have money. Rape They only take the most serious cases, like the wounded or gunshots. A DISPLACED LIFE Somalis flee Mogadishu with their belonging loaded onto donkey carts Displaced mother: Khatija Fleeing father: Yusuf Rape in camps: Faduma My own child died of diarrhoea. In the last year though it has been a little better and fewer children have died from diarrhoea but it will get worse when the rains start. There is a lot of rape. One woman in our camp was gang raped. Some men came in from outside, took her baby from her and gave the baby to the father, and then three men raped her. I even heard of a 70-year-old woman who was bound and raped by a man with a knife when she was walking to the tailor. It is terrible. We don't know of any treatment; we can't go anywhere for help. After midnight During the fighting, six months ago, there was an increase in the number of rapes. But since the transitional federal government said no-one could walk around at night the number of cases has decreased. map This is because it is not so easy anymore to enter our camp after dark. We don't go out because of security. We don't even go to the toilet at night. We now take bedpans into our shelters because if you walk to the latrines at night you will surely be raped after midnight. The main problem with the camp though is that it doesn't have gates and so anyone can just come in and out. Just be kind In our camp none of the husbands have divorced their wives after being raped because everyone knows it is not the woman's fault. She will be ok, people don't look badly on her. There are not those sorts of problems here because sometimes women are even raped in front of her father, husband, family and baby and they cannot stop it. The biggest problem is that she doesn't wake up the next day. She just lies down and doesn't wake up. We live in a small area - roughly a space of four metres by four metres and in this space there are three to four families. When a woman is raped everyone is aware because you can hear the woman screaming. So we go to her afterwards but there is little we can do. We don't have guns, you can just be kind.

Originally posted by Baashi: Again one ought to look one's bottom line. This conflict has no end in sight. There is a reason for that. One way of ending is all out war. Each faction using all its cards a la by any means necessary. It is costly in terms of blood and treasure. One other option is to let things take its course and pin Somalis hope on unknown factors coming from sky. There is another option. Not perfect by any means. This one has to do with a paradigm shift. Changing the zero sum game mentality to more reasonable approach of ending this conflict through negotiation. ^why not drop the talk of 'paradigm shift'? This 'holy' son of somalia act, neutral and objective to all 'competing parties', does not suit you. Runta sheeg niyo, you want the yeey foreign government to succeed so you may one day be hired on as an external advisor perhaps?

“We are training two battalions of Burundians, we’ve procured equipment for those battalions, and we will assist in their deployment. And so we are working with other governments. Secretary Rice has also reached out to Nigerian President [umaru] Yar'Adua to talk about the deployment of Nigerians, as well as President [John] Kufuor, with Ghanaians. So we are working. We also need to do more with the United Nations and get the United Nations involved,” she said. http://usinfo.state.gov/xarchives/display.html?p=washfile-english&y=2007&m=November&x=20071107164317WCyeroC0.9171978&chanlid=democracy

You can prostitute whom ever you like to the ethiopians, I ain't no playa hater na mean? 'We' (Somalilanders) much rather do business and shake them down for every item they import through Berbera. What they decide to do with their imported goods is beyond the scope of this business relationship.

^So say the realities of life 'good' Xiin

Originally posted by xiinfaniin: Waa waxaan ka hadlayey! Soomaalidu waa dad cajaa ib leh! Redka, tell me what is the major function of Berbera? Go and search NY times and find yourself the article that stated NK arms shipments to Ethiopia that went through Berbera before Ethiopia invaded somalia if you are in doubt that Ethiopia manipulates somalis and uses them equally! Yaan laga car-carin from being Ethiopia's puppet : all somalis are in one way or another! ps--waryaa Pointka imow the other thread where we are having round table discussion as to how defeat Ethiopia...wa haddaad sheeko rabto! Berbera is the largest port of Somaliland and is the transit point for most of the countries imports/exports. Ethiopia is Somaliland's largest trading partner. The 'major' function of berbera is to feed the people of Somaliland and surely those of Ethiopia too.

^^^^^^^^ What is this 'secessionist'? is that some sort of somali boogeyman? Remind me again, how many ethiopian troops are there in Somaliland and how many have ever been there? (friendly soccer games between soldiers aside)

Originally posted by -: quote:Originally posted by Northerner: People's true colours have come out of late. Just curious, what have you done to help Mogadisho? My guess, is he's done as much as you have

Originally posted by Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar: quote:But there is one irony to all this: The unrecognised de facto state of Somaliland hosts the continent’s least expensive and most widely accessible telephone service on the continent! This fact is not limited to Waqooyi Galbeed. It is the same in the whole Soomaaliya, and it had been so since 2000. ^ what a hater

Originally posted by rudy: i am sure lil nyquil will resolve that lil sleep problem!! lol^ Word to big bird that stuff works

Originally posted by xiinfaniin: Somalia: Slain Ethiopian troops paraded in Mogadishu streets 2 Nov 2, 2007 - 8:41:18 AM MOGADISHU (AFP) Witnesses confirmed an artillery duel between Ethiopian forces and insurgents in the nearby Gupta neighbourhood, in the first night marred by major clashes since Ali Mohamed Gedi resigned from the premiership on Monday. ^I find this odd, and surely inaccurate. How can an insurgency be engaged in an 'artillery duel'? surely insurgents have no way of sneaking real artillery in the city passed the noses of the ethiopians? mortar fire maybe,but artillery? In any case, those men who are fighting to free their country are brave and are fighting for a just cause, may God have mercy on their souls and forgive them for any previous transgressions.