Originally posted by Libaax-Sankataabte: A&T, your hostility towards certain regions of Somalia is noted. What shall you do about him? your the boss ileene.jk

Unclebin- » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:24 pm Kudos to the fella but he's got an uphill battle from here. Somaliland isn't going to work with him. Thats a certainty. Puntland Will probably play the same role they played post-Arta. Now want remains in South Galkacyo to Raas Kambooni. The Shabaab Factor- If you've been observant like me. The shabaab on their website (Kataaib Which is has now been pulled down by Uncle Sam) had started to refer to Sheik Shariif as simply Shariif. Mind you Shariif Sheik Ahmed (they still got respect for his pops) ran away from the battle fields of jihad and that doesn't exactly work with Shabaab. Shabaab along with their allies Raas Kambooni Jabiso etc et al have strategically placed themselves in a position to take most of the south (Galkacyo to Raas Kambooni). They control The Two jubbas, Shabelle Hoose, Much of Gedo and are poised Bakool and they already have Bay. They also have presence in Shabelle Dheexe (They are fighting in balcad) they recently controlled most of Galgaduud under the tutelage of Adan Ceyrow AUN and later Timo jilec aka Abu Sulaym AUN until the so called ahlu sunnah warlords took over with the help of the habeshi but Al shabaab are poised to make a comeback. Now Shariifs group control Beledweyn Most of Hiiraan for that matter and Shabelle dheexe (It's his power base). Xamar is were all these groups including Asmara are in. Shabaab want to fight the Amison troops. He wants more Amison troops. Shabaab want to take Somaali Galbeed NFD , he wants 'peace' with Somalia's neighbors. Hassan Dahir Aweys- He's been sending messages of Support for Al Shabaab indirectly. He's against the Djibouti group conference and he believes that they should continue to attack the Amisom forces. He's the X-factor. Now what will finally happen is that Shabaab and Shariif either sit down (highly unlikely) or duke it out. By: Unclebin(somalinet message boards).

You mean Alshabaab@mr.me? The Asmara group are off the table, simply because they are way over there and out of touch.

Djibouti Summit: Beautiful ones are not yet born I would be excused I presume, if I fail to point out with accuracy whether the forth coming enlarged TNG Djibouti one is the 12th or the 13th as I witnessed so many of them which all ended up, without exception, in a quick cot death. It is apparent that the Sharif party (ARS Djibouti Faction) dissolved itself willingly by signing the infamous agreement with the TNG and hence is a full member of the new TNG, albeit much weaker then it is predecessor. After killing countless innocent civilians and displacing so many, it is no surreptitious that the TNG control is restricted to few houses in Mogadishu and literally their own offices in Bai**** which will certainly fall into the domain of Al Shabab and its Islamist allies as soon as the last Ethiopian convoy leaves the town. I am sure Baidao people will join the serenity other regions were enjoying for the first time in two years. The Sheikh Sharif(ARS Djibouti faction) choose without any coercion to go in to power sharing agreement with an already dead TNG who failed both politically, morally and militarily and who in the first place had no legitimacy in the eyes of the people. Brief dialogue with the conscience of Sheikh Sharif The ARS’s, which you were the chairman, goal was nothing less then the total liberation of Somalia from the despicable TNG and its stooges and by God’s grace ARS succeeded after two years of relentless struggle. Amazing! Is your unilateral decision to split the party when the goal is within a reach by curving out what named itself as ARS Djibouti faction which is an act of treason and slap on the face of those who paid heavy price during the war of liberation and hence is a prelude to the commencement of an avoidable new prolonged civil war. The ARS – Asmara and its affiliated groups who control the bulk of the country made their position clear - that they will neither negotiate with the TNG nor allow the invading foreign army to sleep in peace. The sheikh also appears to have forgotten that the TNG is a bouquet made of warlords trained as blood hounds by the Ethiopian military intelligence and latter hammered into TNG to further the interest of their master. TNG was the creation of IGAD with Ethiopia at its helm and has the interest of Ethiopia and Kenya at its heart and for that matter nothing of substance was in for the Somalis because of the fact that the Somalis have no representation in the board room. The Sheikh seems to have forgotten his perseverance that foreign troops has to leave as they are for the protection of the TNG – I believe their mandate was neither for peace keeping nor for peace enforcement but sort of mercenary army paid by the CIA Djibouti station on behalf of the so called TNG as the AU has no resources to sustain a contingent of that size for two years. The Sheikh seems to have forgotten that TNG is the same one who had given licence to the Americans to bomb him and his companions from the air and the Ethiopians on the ground even after they vacated Mogadishu and running for their lives in the Jungles of Kismayo region. If all of the above are inconsequential to ring a single bell in the complex mind of the Sharif, then what about the one and half million people; who were made Internally displaced people (IDPS) and the hundreds of thousands slaughtered by the Ethiopian artillery and bayonet even when we sweep under the carpet the destruction to the capital city ?. The Sharif mysteriously have fallen in love with the same men who were harassing, maiming, torturing and selling the community notables for profit without remorse for the last two decades and to add an insult to injury sold his soul and career for the sake of exorcising a heavily possessed beings . Political Mistake that united enemies The Djibouti TNG which is in the making has excelled its predecessors as its death is some what instantaneous because it passed away while it is still on the drawing board and it succeeded to equally confuse all of it’s would be stake holders as no party(Somalis, Ethiopia, Kenya and the likes) can see it’s interest addressed. The Djibouti TNG is some what bankrupt of realistic political agenda that can bring a semblance of comfort to a nation yearning for peace and reconciliation or for the same token neighbours nervous about a possible spill over of ideologies they perceive as destabilizing. The Al – Shabab and its affiliated Islamist groups are in full control of the bulk of Southern Somalia including I hope shortly Baidao, which is the seat of the TNG ,and also has a growing number of sympathisers in Puntland and Somali Land as their ideology straddles across the regressive clan politics. The Islamic courts led by the real ARS – Asmara faction, Somaliland and Puntland are in mutual agreement, in the short term, in negating the recognition of the Djibouti TNG and like most of the Somalis I am wondering if they will get a plane to bring them back to Mogadishu as securing a landing right in Mogadishu Airport will soon be beyond the capabilities of the Ugandan TNG military police as the Islamic court fighters are in the midst of training their air defence cadres. Ethiopia and Kenya are surprisingly disappointed too with the TNG Djibouti because their interest of securing stable but weak and fragmented federal state of Somalia is beyond reach and what took its place is fluid in a plastic which is constantly changing shape. This native resistance religious groups which are gaining the hearts and minds of the people by the hour is a new phenomenon that they admittedly have no arsenal to fight with. With a new administration now in the oval office; Ethiopia, Kenya and the CIA station in Djibouti are very much worried that AL- Shabab might consolidate its grip in Southern Somalia before they learn the new language of president Obama who unlike Bush is believed to be more prudent when it comes to military adventurism and labelling countries as terrorists – the golden currency of the bygone Bush era. One Way ticket to hell Some of the so called TNG – Djibouti lead by the Sharif will ultimately take the risk of returning to Mogadishu to start beating the old age tribal drums but I am afraid this might not work this time. The Sharif and his party already played that card when they accepted that parliamentary seats should be apportioned according to the 4.5 formula. There are no shortages of able bodies who were not accommodated by the formula and who are eager to join the Al- Shabab just to take revenge and settle scores with the TNG who selected their foes although they hail from the same tribe. It is common knowledge that major clans of Mogadishu and others already showed their displeasure with Djibouti TNG out come and some publicly declared that they are with the resistance. Transitional government must earn legitimacy first and for most from its people and only then it is open to international recognition not vice versa. The reality on the ground is that Islamic Courts led by Al –Shabab control most of the southern and central Somalia, Puntland controls North East and Somaliland controls North West – then where does the TNG controls and who it represents? I think the Sharif will start some sort of civil war in Mogadishu which might not live long because the tribalism is becoming obsolete in the face of Al-Shabab as it is demonstrated in the regions they govern. I am sure the Sharif will have no choice but to accept defeat and leave the country or end up as a warlord working for Ethiopia which I believe he can because it is said “once a liar is always a liar”. The Somali people and the Islamic courts led by the real ARS Asmara deserve a genuine apology from the so called TNG - Djibouti before they go into exile or disband themselves peacefully as this current effort to revive the TNG seems laughable because the content of the Djibouti summit seems inadequate to respond to the challenges posed by the ever increasing changes on the ground. Abdikarim H. Abdi Buh

Originally posted by NGONGE: ^^ It was for you actually. Anyway, I returned to that maqaaxi again tonight and the same guy was talking again. This time, he was talking about the new Somali president. He reckons that when Sh. Sharif ran away from Somalia after the defeat of the courts and was picked up by the Americans, they must have done something to him. Allegedly, he got reformatted like a faulty computer. You damn well know that somali politics is like soup opera with lots of suprises and unexpected twists. Sh. Shariif is elected(duh everybody expected it). The real game starts now.

Meji: Baydhabo is alshabab town. You listed it otherwise. Correct it.

His work begins now. He will be judge on how he handles the fragile situation in somalia.

Congrats Sh. Shariif. History will judge from hereon. Enjoy your time.

Maxaad ka taqaana tariikhdii Shiikh Shariif Shiikh Axmad?. Warkii 31-Jan-2009 iyo Qormadii: Afnugaal News Desk Hogaamiyihii Islamiyinta Somaliya Sh. Shariif Sh. Axmed ayaa ku guuleystay madaxweynimada dowlada federalka ee Somaliya iyagoo xildhibaanada la isku dhafay ee dowlada federalka iyo isbeheysiga dib uxorenta ay doorteen. July 25, 1964 ayuu dhashay madaxweynaha cusub ee Somaliya waxa uu yahay hogamiyihii ugu da’da yaraa ee inta la egyahay qabta hogaanka wadanka Somaliya, isagoo dhalay 2-wiil oo lakala yiraahdo Axmed iyo C/laahi oo kan ugu weyn uu jiro 9-sano.Sida la filayo waxa uu wadanka Somaliya hogaamin doona Labada Sanno ee soo socdo, isagoona ay horyaalaan arimo faro badan. Warbarashada. Hogamiyaha Islaamiyinta ee iminka noqday madaxweynaha dowlada federalka Somaliya Sh. Shariif Sh. Axmed waxa uu yahay nin soo bartay aqoonta maadiga isagoona si gaar ah u bartay Geography-ga iyo luqada Carabi waxana uu kasoo baxay jaamacad ku taala wadanka Sudan oo lagu magacabo Kurdufan University. Sidoo kale waa wadaad aqoon u leh diinta islaamka in ku filan isagoo la sheego in wax uu kasoo bartay mashaa’iq soomaaliyed oo si fiican u bartay diinka. Soo shaac bixisi Markii uu kusoo laabtay wadanka Somaliya xilligii dowladaii C/Qaasim Salad Xasan ay shaqeyneysa ayuu tagay magalada Jowhar ee Sh/Dhexe uu ka talinayay Maxamed Cumar Xabeeb oo ahaa hogaamye kooxeedkiis. Waxa uu maamulka Maxamed Dheere uu u noqday hogaamiyaha maxkamada gobolka, isagoona muddo kadib lasoo eryay waxana uu yimid magalada Muqdisho u noqday macalin wax ka dhiga iskool lagu yirahdo Jubba Secondary School. Taariikh hogamiyed. Waxa xigtay markii uu madax ka noqday maxkamad beeleed ku taaley waqooyuiga Muqdisho oo lagu magacabi jiray CC halkaas oo deegaan u ahayd horaantii koox tuugo ahayd oo si weyn looga yaqanay muqdisho inay dhici jirey gawaarida. Sh. Shariif Axmed waxa uu qeyb wayn ka lahaa midowga dhowr maxkamad beeleedyo oo ku yaalay magalada Muqdisho kuwaas oo fikirkooda ahaa inay la diriraan kooxaha burcada ee bulshada dhibatada ku haysay. Waxa uu madax ka aha kooxihii Maxakmada Islaamiga ku midoobay ee ka talinayay inta badan Koofurta iyo Bartamaha wadanka Somaliya dhex bartamihii sanadkii 2006-da ila dhamadkiisi. Sh. Shariif ayaa todobadyo yar kadib markii laga itaal roonaday maxkamadihii islaamka ee hogaamin jirey waxa u galay wadanka Kenya oo gacanta ku dhigeyn ciidamada Booliska. Waxa loo doortay inuu noqdo hogaamiyaha ururka isbeheysiga dib uxorenta oo kumidobeyn mucaaradkii ka soo horjeeday joogista ciidamada Itoobiya. Shariifka waxa uu ogolaaday inuu la galo wada hadalo dowlada federalka, taasoo keentay inay saaxiibtinimadii siyaasada ay ku kala tagaan hogamiyaal ay horaan ay si weyn iskugu dhawayeen uu kamid yahay Xasan Daahir Aweys. Hamiga Madaxweynimo Dad badan waxa u muuqanaysay horaan inuu noqonayo Madaxweyne hadiiba ay wadanka Somaliya ka baxaan ciidamadii Itoobiya, xilliga oo waliba ay joogay madaxweynihii hore C/laahi Yuusuf Axmed.Xubnaha isbeheysiga dib u xorenta iyo xildhibanada dowlada federalka oo la isku daray ayaa muuqanaysay in Shiikha kamid noqon doono musharaxiinta isku taagayo xilka madaxweynimo. Isbeheysiga dib u xorenta ee uu hogaaminayay ayaa u doortay inuu isbeheysi ahaan u matalo inuu isku taago xilka madaxtinimada taasoo keentay inuu helo cod ka badan tirada isbeheysgia uu ku leehyahay dowlada federala oo dhan 200 oo qof. Waxa sidoo kale iminka kala afkaar yihiin xubno ka tirsana golihisii fulinta Maxkamada iyo ururka Al-shabaab oo aaminsan inuu ka dhacay wadadi saxneyd ee awal uu saarna.Si kasataba Sh. Shariif Sh. Axmed ayaa dunida reer galbeedka u aqoonsan yihiin wadaad diimeed qunyar socod ah, isla markaane wax wayn ka badali kara xaalada jahwareer ee ka jirta wadanka Somaliya. Afnugaal News Desk

clan ssc this clan that. Bring something important to discuss dadyow.

suufiyada dhib badanaa! Waaban ka shakiyey ee maxay hoosta ku wataan?

Just saw the list of names, bada cas is one of 'em. :cool:

***1. Prophet Muhammed (Calahi salatu wasalam). 2. Saxaabi Dalxa ibn cubaydullah. 3.Aisha bint abibakr 4. Khalid bin waliid 5. And Cali. ^^^ radiyaalu canhum*** Somalis: 1.Ahmed Gurey 2.Abullahi S. Timacade. 3 Sayidkii 3.SNM hero Ibrahim Koosar and Lixle.

KoolKat, Don't believe everything you read in the media my sister. these guys are very compassionate. The other day Alshabab were labeled clannish movement when Abu Mansuur excused TFG MP's in Baydhabo. That was a compassionate dismissal on Al shabaab's part, many people here were outraged by that and said they should have execute those men. The point is, our people are born mucaarad, there is no way to please them. Call 'em what you want right now, you're more than welcome to voice your opinion as you wish, but once they restore your beloved city (xamar) back to its glory days, I'm sure you and many people I know would be ululating for Alshabaab. Samir iyo Dulqaad ayaa loo bahan yahay sxb.

Maybe I should have my wedding there this summer. It would save me a lot of money.I better consult with my girl. Thanx Jac.

Shankaroon is not a bad name if you're naming it your daughter. Republic of Adel (historical significance) would be nice.

At&T, I'm not the 'decider' remember. Hence never said he shouldn't be back. I'm not gonna lobby for him or against him, it's up to the people who run SOL to unbanned him.

Russia 'drops missile plans due to Obama change to US attitude' News {Moscow-Russia}28-01-09"Russia has dropped plans to install missiles near Poland after the Obama administration signaled a change in US attitude to the region, a Moscow military official has reportedly said. The official suggested that Mr Obama's White House had made clear it would not priorities executing the Bush administration's plan to install a missile defense shield in Poland and the Czech Republic. An unnamed official in the Russian military's general staff said: "The implementation of these plans has been halted in connection with the fact that the new US administration is not rushing through plans to deploy" elements of its missile defence shield in eastern Europe, according to the Interfax news agency. Vladimir Putin, the Russian Prime Minister, had warned that the US shield - which the Bush White House said was necessary to defend against potential attacks from the Middle East - would be interpreted by Moscow as a direct provocation. Dmitry Medvedev, the Russian President, announced in November that in response, Moscow would place short-range Iskander missiles in the western enclave of Kaliningrad. Washington had previously obtained agreements with Poland and the Czech Republic for the installation of the shield, which it said would plug a gap in its global missile defence system. It said the shield was necessary to guard against long-range missiles that Iran was working to develop. The proposed system had received Nato-wide backing. Plans for the system were accelerated after the conflict between Russia and Georgia last year. source: widhwidhonline.

I have nice hands(warm and sensual)

Tuujiye, Age doesn't define leadership or ability. I'm sure you're educated enough to know that many great historical figures attained leadership roles at such young age. And yes it doesn't surprise me that you're willing to hammer alshabab for the work they're doing, at the end your opinion adds up to big pile of nothing sxb for you don't have an answer to Somalia' problem. So you might as well support this group and give them a chance. So far every town and land under their control is experiencing calmness while justice, law and order are returning slowly but maturely.

Alkabab is the same as Alshabab? news to me. Anyways the name is 'alshabab' and they should be refered as such. Whether they have arabic(language of the holy Qu'ran) or Somali makes no difference. Their struggle should be valued. ps. Zack, maxaad zakariye ula bixi wayday adigu, adigu iska bilow.

Xasan turki is member of Alshabab not Alkabab. So which is it?

I think Nabadnabad is robot, he is programmed to act upon Faroole's commands.

He is no part of alkabab. He is the leader of jabbiso that operates in Jubboyinka. They come under Alshabaab.

wuu kaa xishooday(baqday).