Originally posted by Mansa Munsa: Which one came first the chicken or the egg? Which one controls the other? Which is one is by product of the other? PIS agency or PL?....... The Balkanization of the motherland is underway. Wake up guys and embrace the reality. Nonsense, PIS is an institution of the state and no envious claims will change that. Che, you have accepted that foreigners can kill, maim, murder, force into marriage and make homeless Somali's all over the south, as well as send suicide bombers to Hargaysa, Bossaso killing innocents. Your hypocracy knows no bounds. :confused:

^^^I have around 90% control the rest is a work in progress.

^^^Ahmed Guray defeated the Abyssinian Empire, you seem to enjoy highlighting your ignorance at every turn. Not only Ethiopia, Imaam Ahmed defeated the Portuguese led by Padre De Gama the son of the famous Vasco De Game. What’s the time span between Imaam Ahmed & Menelik the II? Also little Melez Zanawi & Aferwearki trained by the Somali state are now leaders of what was Ethiopia. Hence Ethiopia like any nation can be defeated, but at what cost and what strategy must one use?

Originally posted by Cowke: General, don't try to compete with him, your people were naked when i was writing the somali language and had inter-continental trade network with local governance structure unknown in somalia. The hargeisa click only had nabadoons at tops and no reported sultanates or governance when the colonialists came. And southern somalia had no sutanates and running wild in the farm-lands. So it's pointless competing with me, Today It is Abdulqawi Yusuf, is a prominent public international lawyer and judge who is currently a judge at the International Court of Justice since February 6 2009. looooooooool. You are indeed confusing yourself. Adeer what has the above got to do with ONLF, Ahmed Guray or Ethiopia. Stick to the topic lad, your fake pretences dont wash with me.

Originally posted by Cowke: Ahmed guray was temporary success but eventually lost, . No adeer, Imam Ahmed conquored Ethiopia, and only lost to the army sent by Portugal. Imaam Ahmed took Amhara, Tigray and destroyed their churches and castles. It took Ethiopia more than 200 years to recover and only under Menelik did they take Harar. Thus again, dont just utter things you know nothing about. They were also colonised by the Italians, for four years, hence they took that time of their calander. They were colonised, and conquored.

Originally posted by Che -Guevara: ^No Somali entity enjoys sovereignty over its affairs and territories, of course everyone is entitled to entertain his or her delusions. You can extend that by saying no African nation enjoys soverignty, neither any Arab nation, soverignty.

Many men have failed in the defeat of the habash empire. Some notable ones are as follows; 1. Ahmed Guray 2. Sayid Abdulle 3. Mussolini 4. Siyad Barre Ahmed Guray conquored most of what is Ethiopia, so did the Fascist Italian, thus as with most things you write you have no point.

^^^My admin, nor my people sanctioned it. Thats the important issue.

^^^No adeer, it has to do with you and your destructive nonsense. But the struggle that we are facing against poverty, ignorace and desease has no place for ONLF, AL Shabaab and business based fake clan , fake religious"struggles".

Originally posted by Che -Guevara: J11...PIS answers nobody within Puntland. . As ever Che, talking out of his ***, the PIS is an instrument of Puntland state. They answer to the government. You are just hating that, the state continues to survive while everything you supported has turned to dust.

^^^Adeer there is nothing wrong with Somalilanders in the UK. I grew up there, a fine bunch of Somali's they are, though I disagree with the secessionist nonsense.

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Wasiirka Haweenka iyo Hormarinta Qoyska oo si weyn loogu soo dhaweeyey Minnesota (Daawo masawirada) Caasho Geelle Diiriye oo ah Wasiirka Haweenka iyo Hormarinta Qoyska DGPL ayaa si weyn loogu soo Dhaweeyey Gobolka Minnesota Caasho Geelle ayaa waxaa Casho sharaf u sameeyey Ururka Puntland Diaspora Forum waxaan ay xaflada casho sharaftu ka dhacday Hotelka la yiraahdo Radisson oo ku yaal Xaafadda Roseville. Wasiirka Haweenka iyo Hormarinta Qoyska Halkaan Ka Dhagayso waxay ka hadashay Xaaladda dalka guud ahaan gaar ahaan waxay wax ka taabatay Burcad badeedka iyo dhibaatooyinka ay geystaan waxay kale oo ka hadashay dhibaatada haysata Dhalinyarada shaqa la,aanta iyo dadka reer guuraaga ah Waxay kale oo ka hadashay dayaca haysta Gabdhaha Soomaliyeed Khud badeedii ayaa ahayd mid kaftan ku uu san ka marnayn waxayna tiri Inta aan Dayax Gacmeedka la i saarin horta ragga wax badan ayaa loo sacabiyey ee hadda dumarka caawey ha u sacabiyaan inta meesha la fadhiyana sacabka Ragga ayaa ku qoran Marwo Caasho Geelle Diiriye ayaa Khudbadeedii dhinacya badan taabanaysay. Xaflada casho sharafta ayaa waxaa ka soo qayb galay dhammaan Jaaliyadda Soomaliyeed ee Minnesota waxayna ahay casho sharaftan mid ka gadisan soo dhaweyntii looga bartay Jaaliyadda Minnesota waayo waxay ahayd sida goobta laga sheegay ama dareenku ahaa Gabar Wasiira oo Soomaaliya oo dad ka inta badan aysan arag wali Gabar Soomaliyeed oo Wasiir ah.. waxaana Goobta looga tiriyey Buraanbur Amaan iyo Guubaabo iskugu jira Haween badan oo Guubta ka Hadlay ayaa sheegay in ay soo dhaweyn jireen rag Boorsooyin dhaadheer wata laakiin hadda ay tahay wakhtigii Haweenka Marwo Xaawo Faarax Cadde Ayaa Sheegtay in Caasho Geelle Mudan tahay In Dayax Gacmeed la saaro Dhinaca kale Professor Mohamuud Xaamud oo ah Madaxweynaha ku Xigeenka PDF ayaa si diiran u soo dhaweeyey Wasiirada oo waxaana hanbalyo iyo soo dhaweyn Hawada u soo marsiiyey Ambassador Abdiqadir Hashi oo Canada ku sugan sida Goobta uu ka sheegay Xiriiriyaha Barnaamijka C/fitaax yare Hadalkii Xaamud C/risaaq Ducaysane oo ah Xiriiriyaha Qurba Joogta Puntland Xafiisna ka Furtay Caasumadda Puntland oo Howlo Safar u Jooga Minnesota haddana ka mid ah Jaaliyadda Minnesota oo goobta ka hadlay ayaa ka waramay Howl karnimada Wasiirka Haweenka iyo Hormarinta Qoyska Caasho Geelle wax uuna Xusay in wasaaradaan ay tahay tan ugu shaqaalaha badan Puntland waxuuna ka wara may doorka ay ka cayaartay Puntlland gaar ahaan Xiligii Doorashooyinku socdeen. Mohamed Kaynaan oo ah Xildhibaan ku jira Baarlaanmka Dowladda Federaalka ah kana soo jeeda Puntland ayaa asna goobta ka hadlay asaga oo soo dhaweeyey Wasiirada.

To the lads crying out. The state has clearly come out against this accusation. If ONLF and their supporters want to blame people then point fingers at your own clan’s inability to have a single coherent strategy. Some are ONLF, others pro Ethipia and the people lose out. Who are the leaders of the Somali state of Ethiopia, the Generals, the spies the troops of the Ethiopians? Thus spare us the crocodile tears once and for all. The other issue is Che, and the fake nationalist here, adeer I know you welcome any event that might destabilize Puntland. But the walls that were build by the people of the NE has saved countless Somali’s, thousands upon thousands from the south have found a home, security and a future in Puntland. While you support the killings, maiming the failure that is the fake religious groups in the south. Puntland should not support ONLF, its for the ****** clan to support this entity, its for them to decide their future, it has nothing to do with us and our struggle for a normal life.

^^^lool. Adeer, hearsay is not important the state clearly has come out and clarified the situation.

Garowe: Dawladda Puntland oo beenisay war ka soo baxay ONLF. 27. oktober 2009 Garowe(AllPuntland)- Dawladda Puntland ayaa sheegtay in aysan waxba ka jirin in ay dawladda Itoobiya gacanta ugaliyaan dad udhashay Ismaamulka Soomaalida ee dawladda Itoobiya, isla markaasna waxa ay sheegeen in ay talaabadaasi mid ay ka been sheegeen Jamhada ONLF. Saraakiisha Madaxtooyada ee dawlada Puntland ayaa sheegay in ay maqleen Eedaynta ONLF, ayagoo sheegay in aysan waxba ka jirin in ay dawladda Puntland ay dad udhiibtay dawladda Itoobiya, waxa ayna intaasi ku daray in aysan ciidamadooda qaban dadka Soomaaliyeed. Ilo ku dhow dhow Madaxweynaha dawladda Puntland Dr. C/rixmaan Sheekh Maxamed ayaa sheegay in aysan waxba ka jirin arrintaasi, isla markaasna aysan marnaba ka suuragaleyn dawladda Puntland in dad Soomaaliyeed loo gacan galiyo dawladdaha jaarka la ah Soomaaliya. " Taasi ma dhici karto, waa been ay sheegtay ONLF, oo aanan garan karin ujeedada ay leedahay, dad aan dhiibnay ama laga qabtay Puntland oo ay ka xeysteen Itoobiya ma jiraan" Ayuu yiri Sarkaal sare oo ka ag dhaw Madaxweynaha dawladda Puntland oo ka gaabsaday Magaciisa. Xuseen Maxamed Nuur oo ah Madaxda Warfaafinta ee ONLF ayaa xaqiijiyey in dad udhashay beesha ****** laga qabtay magaalada Boosaaso, loona gacan galiyey dawladda Itoobiya oo uu dagaal adag kala dhaxeeyo Jamhada ONLF oo ah Jamhada ay leeyihiin Beesha ******, dagaal adagna kula jirta dawladda Itoobiya oo maamusha gobalada Soomaalida ee kilalka Shanaad. Dawladda Itoobiya ayaa la rumeysan yahay in ay xiriir wanaagsan kala dhaxeeyey dawladda Puntland, waxaana maalmihii ugu dambeeyey soo baxayay warar kala gedisan oo ku saabsan halka uu salka dhigtay xiriirkaasi, markii ay ciidan ka tirsan dawladda Itoobiya si sharci daro ah ku galeen magaalada Gaalkacyo ee xarunta gobalka Mudug. Warar hoosaadyo ka tirsan dawladdaha Puntland iyo Addis Ababa ayaa sheegay in uusan maalmihii ugu dambeeyey xiriirka labada dhinac wanaagsaneyn, isla markaasna ay jireen waxyaabo laysku mari waayay oo ay ka mid yihiin talaabadii carada ku beertay Madaxda Puntland ee ahayd in ay ciidamada dawladda Itoobiya, si sharci daro ah ku galaan gudaha magaalada Gaalkacyo, taasoo ay jawaabteeda ka gaabsatay dawladda Itoobiya. F. C. Maxamed AllPuntland

Marwo Caasha Geelle oo la kulantay madax ka tirsan dawlad goboleedka Minnesota. St. Paul, Oct 26 - Wasiirka horumarinta haweenka & arrimaha qoyska ee Puntland Marwo Caasha Geelle Diriye ayaa kulan la yeelatay Tina Liebling (DFL), mudane ka tirsan golaha wakiilada oo laga soo doorto degmada 30A ee dawlada goboleedka Minnesota. Marwo Caasha ayaa uga la wadaagtay Md. Liebling xog waran guud oo ku saabsan Puntland, qorshaha guud ee Puntland ee horumarinta caafimaadka, adeegyada bulshada iyo dawrka dumarka ee horumarinta arrimaha qoyska. Wasiirka ayaa sudii kale ka xog warantay wax qabadka wasaarada haweenka, qorshe hawleedka siyaasadeed ee wasaarada, iyo dadaalka guud ee wasaaradu ugu jirto daryeelka bulshada, gaar ahaan hooyooyinka iyo dhallaanka. Md. Liebling, oo laga soo doorto degmada 30A oo ay deggan yihiin Somali badani, ahna ku xigeenka guddoomiyaha guudiga siyaasada ee Caafimaadka & Adeegyada Bulshada ee Minnesota ayaa uga xog warantay wasiirka hawlaha golaha iyo mashaariicda horumarineed ee ee sannad-miisaaniyeedkan u qoondaysan degmada iyo dawlada goboleedka MN. Wasiirka ayaa sidoo kale la kulantay Robert Lilligren, ku xigeenka golaha deegaanka ee Minneapolis. Labada mas'uul ayaa ka wada hadlay is-kaashi dhex mara Puntland iyo Minnesota iyo weliba wadashaqayn ay yeeshaan magaalooyinka Puntland iyo kuwa Minnesota. Wasiirada ayaa maalmaha soo socda sidoo kale kulamo la yeelan doonta madaxda mudanayaasha Congress-ka iyo Senate-ka ee Minnesota, iyo Duqayda magaalooyinka St. Paul & Minnesota. Wasiirada ayaa todobaadada soo socda lagu qadaa in ay safar hawleed ku tago Wasington D.C. iyo dawlad goboleedyo kale oo ay ka mid yihiin Washington. Diiwaanka Wararka, Idaacada Daljir.

^^^lool @ secessionist, adeer paste your pic on here so we can comment.

^^^ Yup you are by posting on the thread the Duke started. Logic was never your strong now was it?

^^^ABWAN, adeer when did I support Sharif, Xasan dahir & Al Shabaab? Infact its you who used to defend the Bakara market & sends funds to Al Shabaab, now you are silent as the market is shelled by Sharif hotel. Duke has been consistent, shame Sharif Hotel has not been.

Originally posted by Xaaji_xundjuf: Duke your mucaraad to aweys your mucaraad 2 sharif , u mucaraad 2 shabaab. You used to be a hardcore TFG, fan what happened. Do you even read what you write, I am against Sharif because he is an empty suit, Xasan Dahir & Al Shabaab have nothing to do with the TFG, try again secessionist.

^^^Investigative journalists seldom give away their sources, and Somalia is a violent place rememeber. However is this news possible, more than likely old fake Mujahid Xasan Dahir needs Eritrea more today than ever.

^^^Thus he has no ties with Asmara and gets his guns from heaven.