Poor prisoner were you talking to yourself all these past hours? Anyhow you can keep acting tough all you like, I love how you make cyber threats, as if any will least of all a grown man will take you seriously. the fact remains you were humiliated in this thread and as usual found wanting. Like I said don't ruin this development based topic, mistaking it for one of your prison stories. If you want me to humble you as is the case all the time open a spreads thread. Again spare us the vomit and add to the topic.

Back to the topic and to piss of the prisoner a bit more.. A library in Beledweyn this is the type of developments that I support in my beloved Somalia..

Dear prisoner Zack; you have been consistent only in showing your prejudices. Its sad that when you saw this thread it triggered something deep inside you. Weak men lose their temper easily, and weakest of men highlight to strangers that they have lost their temper. Stop frothing from the mouth, all you have ever done in SOL is to tell us fictitious prison stories. Not sure how that helps Somali nationalism and awareness. You need to search deep within you, and recall the reason why you get angry whenever “Hiiraan” is mentioned. Beledweyne is a beautiful city renowned for its lovely land and women. Was it the land and its inhabitants or was it a woman that forever scared our dear prisoner? I am not bothered.

^^^Zack adeer, its well known cowards act real big behind a screen. Like the ones who "liberate" prsions in Ethiopia while they are in Ohio. Go jump off a bridge son, cause you aint impressing no one with your show. Anywho, open another thread and I will make you jump off a bridge.. Promise

The Zack;706142 wrote: War caawa anaa sideyda u xanaaqsan suu qashiinkan rabaa injunctions na wacdiyo. Minneapolis-na waan joogaa Marka lafahiisa ha u baqdo. lol@ Zack acting tough in cyber space trying to impress someone. I am reminded of Dave Chappele’s a case of keeping it real gone wrong”

The Zack;706135 wrote: Because he wants to appease others. with me will end up exposing your bad and terrible history in SOL. My dear prisoner, don’t get angry now and kindly don’t politicize the thread and ruin it. My advice to you still stands, get out of the prison mentality, stop being one dimensional a few development topics and you will be on your way. Forget “exposing” me and you are more than welcome to go through my diverse portfolio of over 30, 000 posts, you exposed your naked hatred and deep seated inferiority complex by the asinine comments that you made on this thread. Or is it the case of you see prison wardens everywhere? Anywho, I will leave you with the words “Viva Hiiran university”. I suggest you open a new thread where I can bully you and don’t ruin the sisters who I want to appease a little.

The Zack;706125 wrote: Viva Hiiraan indeed Zack, brother just get out of the prison that you find yourself in. Its noticeable all you talk about is violence and famous prison escapes. Now you need some soul searching why you started politicizing this thread and others. As for your comments all I will take from it is. “Viva Hiiraan” indeed if I made you say that, I have done my job here today. PS: Diversify your posts, prison stories are a bit of a bore.

Its neat...

The Zack;705518 wrote: Isn't Beledweyne occupied by the Shabaabs? lol@Zack, I think your mind is pre-occupied with violence and destruction. For once support a good thing brother. Well done to the people of Hiiraan & the Diaspora for the good work.

^^^You know that Egal was "elected" by clan elders a number of times..

The SNM includes non-***** members but its core leadership operates along ***** Clan lines (Press 1 March 1993). Mohamed Ibrahim Egal has been President of Somaliland since May 1993, winning elections among clan elders in 1993, 1995, and 1997 (AFP 20 Apr. 1995; AP 24 Feb. 1997). According to the Somalia Desk Officer at the Department of State, the SNM views Egal as its legitimate leader (DOS 25 Aug. 1999). Egal, a former Somali Prime Minister ousted and imprisoned by Siad Barre, presides over a Pennsylvania-size patch of scrub with approximately 1.2 million people (AP 7 April 1996). His ascension to office resulted from a clan elders’ compromise to defuse internal clan disputes over the port of Berbera, which almost degenerated into a Somaliland civil war in 1992 (Flint 1993). SNM factions opposed to Egal, however, continued to resist his authority and have undertaken sporadic but occasionally significant armed attacks against his government. In 1994 rebels threatened control of Somaliland’s capital, Hargeysa. By various estimates the fighting displaced tens to hundreds of thousands of people (Somali News Update 1, 14 December 1994). In 1995 rebels again pressed Hargeysa, particularly around the airport (BBC 21 Aug. 1995). The most prominent rebel leader, Abdurahman Ali Tour (Tur), the first president of Somaliland whom Egal succeeded, was put on trial for treason in October 1995, for “leading a guerilla movement against the present government” and for “opposing Somaliland’s self-declared independence (Radio Hargeisa 6 June 1995).” The issue of Somaliland’s relations with the remainder of Somalia and whether there should be any attempt at reunification is particularly sensitive. Tour and his associates, by having allied themselves with General Mohamed Farah Aideed’s unrecognized government in Mogadishu (Aideed is now deceased), compounded the allegations of treason. More recently, in August 1999 members of an SNM executive committee strongly criticized the Egal government for its proposed changes to the Somaliland constitution (Jamhuuriya 15 Aug.1999). A historical picture. The clan feuds and war is no different to that of any other part of the republic.

More than 100 militiamen royal to former "Somaliland" leader Ali Tuur have surrendered to the current break away republic leader, Mohamed Haji Ibrahim Egal. According to Radio Hargeisa, the militiamen also brought two armed vehicles to the self-claimed "Somaliland president" over the weekend. The militiamen received what the radio said "warm welcom" from Egal and his top officials. Hundreds of residents lined up along the streets of Hargeisa, capital of the break away republic, to greet the militiamen, according to the radio. The militiamen, who came from southeast of Hargeisa, called on those still in the jungle to give up fighting … Rival Somaliland Militiamen Surrender To Egal from:Xinhua News Agency date:May 7, 1996

Born in 1931, Tuur had been a diplomat and government official. He later became the Chairman of the Somali National Movement (SNM), a guerilla force drawn from the ***** clan that was attempting to topple the military administration of former President of Somalia Siad Barre. Although the SNM at its inception had a unionist constitution, it eventually began to pursue a separatist agenda, looking to secede from the rest of Somalia. Under Tuur's leadership, the local administration declared the northwestern Somali territories independent on 18 May 1991. He then became the newly-established Somaliland polity’s first President, but subsequently renounced the separatist platform in 1994 and began instead to publicly seek and advocate reconciliation with the rest of Somalia under a power-sharing federal system of governance.[2] Tuur also lent some support to the UNOSOM peace-building mission in the southern regions, which alienated him from Somaliland's succeeding government as well as many former followers.[3] When support for Tuur in southern Somalia failed to materialise, he was exiled to Ethiopia for almost a decade, before returning to Somaliland on 10 February 2003, 9 months before his death on 8 November 2003. From the outset, the SNM was never a secessionist movement..

Egaal Vs Tuur The argument that NW Somalia has had a unique peace in contrast to south is false. Its amusing that a former PM of Somalia turned out to be the most vocal of all the secessionists. The late Mohamed Ibrahim Egaal, went from a national Somali statesmen to a clan warmonger and secessionist. He betrayed all that he swore on and all that he stood for. The question is for what? The answer to this simple questions is simple, Egaal and all those other cruel men who followed him to the high office of secessionisam were doing it for money. They enriched themselves, they gained power and they played the local people. They used clan arguments and they set clans against each other. The war that broke out between, Egaal [the winner] and Tuur was a prime example of the fallacy of the secessionist cause. Abdirahman Tuur [AUN] was a long standing commander and leader of the SNM. The Somali National Movement [sNM] was along with the SSDF and USC one of the most famous of the failed rebel movements that participated in the Somali civil war. The SNM never claimed to be a separatist movement, but one that was fighting for the rights of the people of NW Somalia against the tyranny of Siad Barre. However it was Mr Tuur who after the defeat of Barre’s forces in Somalia declared that NW Somalia would become an independent nation or Somaliland. The lack of creativity in choosing the name Somaliland aside, this declaration caused many clans that inhabit NW Somalia to feel threatened. From the outset there were many clan killing nd reprisals against clans which were viewed as being supporters of Barre. The massacre in Borama, and the subsequent clan killing in Sanaag and SOOL are both noteworthy examples of this. However it was inside the triangle and specifically in the city of Burc which saw the most mayhem and killings. Abdirahman Tuur the founding father of Somaliland was opposed by Egal and their forces went on a bloody killing spree. The city of Burco was destroyed and many of its inhabitants forced to flee. The war continued until Tuur was defeated. Tuur fled to Mogadishu and renounced his secessionist stande, became a unionist overnight and sought the employment of Aydeed, a strong man in Mogadishu at the time. This was a pattern many Somali politicians would repeat over the years. However while some in the south changed sided and factions. The politicians and warlords of the NW Somalia, changed political ideologies at will. A unionist would become a secessionist overnight, and vice versa all for the sake of a few dollars.

This thread will unmask the fallacies of the secessionist movement in NW Somalia. I would like from the outset, wish to differentiate between the noble Somali calsn of that region and the horrid secessionist agenda. The thread will concentrate on the false premise that there is a difference between all other Somali’s and those that inhabit the triangle area map of Hargaysa, Burco and Berbera. The Somali people are one, and recent history has shown us that they will not be divided insha Allah.

No problem, Abdirahman Tuur, Egaal Omar Arteh, Siilanyo, kahin and all SNM comanders present and the past Are not only traitors but also warlords of the worst kind.

Arsonists 2:0 Siilanyo

^^^no doubt the cross dressing warlords like Godane need to be dealt with also.

It was house burning now we have cars being set on fire. Siilanyu is losing the war to the arsonists..

As long as the Somali government exists it's good news. Farmaajo's cabinet led by the Hargaysa native Omaar is doing a good job. The secessionist search for recognition also needs an extension since it has failed over the last 20 years...

^^^nicely put.

^^^More so than many. Most of us dont claim other peoples villages and invade them, at least I dont.

"Clan is everything" a famous adage from a born again secessionist...

While I am not a fan of the current TFG, I must applaud the coverage of Liqaye and my Somalina. Well done people and keep it up..

Poor Ngoonge tried to call adeer Siilanyo earlier. He got this message; The number you have dialed has not been recognized please try again later.