If Cabaas joins forces with Barre hiiraale than it will be the SFG versus raskambooni/ Kenya, interesting development. And i am hearing Aw libaax might defect to Barre hiiraale.

The halabja memorial in northern Iraq

^^ If that makes them happy why not and if that heals them why not

ElPunto;966105 wrote: What a waste! Leave the man alone this man is not responsible for this leave him alone

Lol@ STOIC the people of Somaliland fought hard to be where they are now when the world turned their back on them they continued they didnt care much about what the world says. When the world started supporting unconditionally the empty shelf that they call the UN western backed Somali government. Somaliland just continued with democratization of the country. The Koonfurians are an obstacle to Somaliland developing thats why Somaliland need to be fully cut loose from them. In order for Somaliland to shine. Somalia just has a negative impact on Somaliland.

These people celebrating are fake nationalists they are all members of sahal and hag when the festivals end they will go back to their clanish corners and try to carve out a territory for the clan , using the muscle of foreigners. This is just for the show one or 2 days partying waving the flag but it means little in reality people of Somalia have no sense of nationalism. They love to talk hours and hours about one thing but they dont mean it, they know it to some admit it others love to hide it. Qiirada iyo calan baanu jecelahay bakh bakh , haday calan jecelyihin Somalia maanta halka may marteen.

Fantastic that looks good Hargeysa keep on building By the way the MIG stays its to remember the atrocities committed against the people of Somaliland

The Cagadheers were not that involved in the Conquest against the Abyssinians but Garaad wiilwaals people were part of the conquest in huge numbers and other small clans. But Somalis believe the imam is a Somali, but if he was a Somali we would've known his clan either he belongs to one of the clans that became extinct or he was an Arab who grew up in the midst of the northern Somalis at that time.

Haatu;965912 wrote: The last one needs more explanation. Do you mean his ethnicity or his qabiil? Both lol

^^ Ooh the Somaliland Somalia issue is a famous subject on SOL had millions of topics about this issue, actually i have talked more about other affairs than Somaliland. You should also check out twitter and youtube. And you will see how Somalis are divided and concerned about this issue. Maybe you do not care nin yabaan, because lama yabaanid Laakin its a controversial issue with in the Somali community. I post mostly news thats why i have so many posts:D

Abtigiis;965779 wrote: There is no accusation from Mogadishu, i mean SFG. This morning, Kenyan Foreign Ministry summoned Somali Embassy staff here in Nairobi to explain the accusations. The staff called state house in Mogadishu, aka, President Hassan's Office. The instructions was that they can not say that the allegations made by the junior minister acting on the order of the PM and tolnimo responsibility is the SFG's position. File closed. Sow markaa warku uma eka, dheg ha u dhigina waa war reer saar Gedoode!! Yaan la isu dawladeeyn, jubbaland na dawlad ma aha ; Office of PM na dawlad ma ahe. Reeraha hala kala qabto. Abtigiis marka meesha yaa dawlad ka aha Kiiniya somaha. Waba fawdo sideedi ah

Sheikh xassan daahir aweys has caused friction with in the HAG society maybe for HAG political objectives it was better if he had stayed with Alshabaab. But he could not stay with Alshabaab because Amiir Godane was chasing him. Maybe he should've been giving refuge in Asmara his old friend Isaias afewerki would give him asylum. But this is atleast is a short win for Sahal, Xaad and Axmed Diiriye will stop their threats against Jubbaland for a while until this is sorted out.

I am not sure what kind kind of Somali you are but the Somalis i know do not like mix with non Somalis whether they are white or black it dont matter. Salafism is very wide category you have neosalafist and thats a strict group and u have jihadi salafists. .I think the sufis are misunderstood even though i believe there is allot of Jahiliya with in the Sufi community. Nonetheless Sufist spread islam in many parts of the world. Number 3 issue is also very controversial and i seen Somalis debate on that i always say with the Arabs we share a religion and with the Africans we share a skin color and continent and to some extend culture Africa is home.

Arabs need monarchs and dictators they cannot live in freedom, they dont know what it is to have democracy

aero;965857 wrote: ^ It's not healthy This is history re-writing itself once again just in a different part of the world. We know this story very well. The confederates (in this case Somaliland) wanted to break away from union with the North (in this case the rest of Somalia to the south) but unionists weren't having any of that secession mambo jambo and as we know it succeeded and continued with the union and is now one of the greatest nations in the world. And you wonder why I'm a unionist . The union always prevails! If America and the powers that be defines Somaliland as a breakaway nation, best believe the rest of the world would accept and follow but since it chooses not to see you as one, y'all cease to exist. Why do you love this union so much what is it in for you its certainly beneficial for you but not for Somaliland, as we seem to be different on this opinion. Union is dead in the hearts and minds of Somaliland and seriously my generation i think were the closest and maybe were idealistic to the union even though they suffered allot because many of them went through the civil war the 80s and their teen age years were ruined.The current youth born in the mid and late 80s. Have no affection at all with anything Somalia. There are different times i used to flirt with Somaliweyn few years ago with some of the youth and they all looked at me with an eye is he really one of us. If u want union and prevail, than u have to defeat Somaliland. If you want to use the American context of their civil war. Are you ready for a war are you ready to spill blood for the union how many you want to sacrifice do you have what it takes to enforce a Union. America is not the horn of Africa. the horn of Africa is turbulent volatile region. And Somalia is very different than America the leaders of Somalia are different than the US leaders. Silanyo is not Jefferson davis. And Culusow is certainly not Abraham Lincoln. I dont think Somalilands future is tight to America the US is not against it and its not for it they are neutral they said it many times. They want the African union to take the lead when it comes to SL recognition. I believe Somaliland has a good chance to be recognized there are no major powers against it except the few hairy arabs in the region, Somalia is not Turkey or China. If South Sudan could break away from Sudan it took them 50 years If Eritrea could break away from Ethiopia it took them more than 30 years. Than i am sure Somaliland has it easy with Somalia the Amisom guarded government. 22 years and counting Somalia in civil and it is not closer to a union with Somaliland. I am even afraid that Somalia it self might disintegrate who knows with all the autonomous states popping up every where and neighboring countries supporting it. The best way for Somalia and Somaliland is agree to live and let live and make sure the peace and stability is maintained in order for the brotherhood between the nations to grow.If we dont do that it will be wasted . If we dont dont do that i am sure in 100 years time when we are long dead the 2 people cannot grow towards each other and always remember today will be tomorrows future.

1Somalis dating Marrying Ajanabis frenjis 2Salafism versus Sufisim 3Arabism versus Africanism 4Somaliland versus Somalia 5The identity of imam Ahmed ibrahim al Ghazi

Maps and bureaucrats in new york do not define if there is a union Somalia and Somaliland do. In my opinion and millions others the union was killed dragged on the streets of Burco and eventually killed and buried on 18 may in 1991. Its just a dark day for Somalilanders that doesn't make me sad lol. I am still happy for Somalia when they got their dignity and independence back from Italy. So i am very happy for Somalia. But you are welcome to delude your self that there is a union:D ka qasi mayo i xaflade

Unfortunately yes, but thank God the Union no longer exist lets keep it with the independence of Somalia. Which is a good thing to celebrate for the people of Somalia.

Cambuulo if there is no reinforcement from Mogadishu to assist Barre, what can he do by the way he didnt make an alliance he just said there is a ceasefire between shabaab and him.

These Egyptians and their protests every few months. I doubt Morsi will leave any time soon though

nuune;965813 wrote: I can see two communities getting divided, or getting divided already, and Dahir Alasow is spinning it already saying that beesha wixii kaga jirey dowlada oo shir leh iyo sidey dowlada u wada faaruqin lahaayeen and establish a mucaarad similar to Alshabaab. A habr gangster Damuljadiid , aweys and sh indho cade al markaawi had their own xisbal islam party before

Waa talo aad u fiican baashi.

^^ Damage has already be done Aweys was treated as a criminal Abu mansuur will think twice now before he humiliates him self

Bannaanbax looga horjeedo xariga Shiikh Xasan Daahir Aweys oo Maanta ka dhacay Qaybo ka mid ah Magaalada Muqdisho Isniin, July 01, 2013 (HOL) — Dibadbax ay ka qaybgaleyeen dadweyne isugu jira haween, caruur iyo dhallinyaro loogana soo horjeedo xariga Sheekh Xasan Daahir iyo xubno la socday oo dowladda Soomaaliya u xiran ayaa maanta ka dhacay qaybo ka mid ah magaalada Muqdisho. Bannaanbaxayaasha ayaa gubay taayarro iyagoo sidoo kalena dhagaxaan ku tuurayay goobaha ganacsiga, waxaana intii uu dibadbaxa socday istaagay isku socodka dadka iyo gaadiidka qaybo ka mid ah Muqdisho. “Xasan Daahir waxaa gacanta loo geliyay dowladda Mareykanka, waana mid aan aad uga xunnahay, dowladda Soomaaliya waxaan ugu baaqay inay sii dayso xubnaha u xirxiran,” ayaa ka mid ahaa erayada ay ku dhawaaqayeen dadka dibadbaxa dhigaya. Dibadbaxyadan ayaa waxay ka dhaceen inta u dhexeysa isgoysada Banaadir iyo Zope iyo isgoyska Tarabuunka, mana jirin wax ciidamo ah oo jawaab ka bixiyay dibadbaxaas am aka hortagay. Sidoo kale, dadka dibadbaxa dhigayay ayaa waxay ku qaylinayeen rayo ay kaga soo horjeedaan dowladda Soomaaliya, mana jirto cid sheegatay inay ka dambeysay abaabulka dibadbaxa oo noqnoaya kii ugu horreeyay Muqdisho laga sameeyo tan iyo markii Xasan Daahir iyo xubno la socday la xiray habeen hore. Shalay oo Axad ahayd ayaa waxaa Muqdisho ka dhacay kulan ay yeesheen xubnihii Sheekh Xasan Daahir iyo taageerayaashiisa kasoo waday degmaada Cadaado ee gobolka Galguduud, keenayna Muqdisho, iyadoo markiiba ay la wareegeen ciidamada nabadsugidda Qaranka oo xabsiga dhigay. Dowladda Soomaaliya ayaa ka hadashay mowqifkeeda ku aaddan Xiridda Sheekh Xasan Daahir oo kasoo goostay Al-shabaab iyo xubno la socday oo weli ku xiran Muqdisho, waxaana afhayeenka madaxweynaha uu sheegay in dowladdu ay u baahan tahay fursad ay kaga baaraan-dagto sida laga yeelayo hoggaamiyahan iyo xubnaha la socda. Mas’uuliyiinta dowladda iyo kuwa hay’adaha ammaanka ayaan weli ka hadlin sida ay u arkaan dibadbaxa, waxaana dibadbaxa uu si iskiis ah u joogsaday barqonimadii maanta, iyadoo dib ay furmeen goobihii ganacsiga iyo isku socodka gaadiidka iyo dadweynaha.