That is the way forward for both countries, we must get rid of emotions at all cost ,and use our brains, Somalia is better off with out Somaliland, and Somaliland is better off with out Somalia. if we can respect each other on that point, than indeed we can move forward.

Is it true what the second guy is saying that the Somaliland delegation rejected mediation between them and Somalia In London if that is true Dr bidaar screwed up big time.

^^ He joined the anti Culusow Camp

How is this the end of culusow just because failed politicians want attention lol.

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Wasiir xaglatoosiye oo Puntland ugu Baaqay in ay faraha kala Baxdo deeganka Sanaag Barri. xaglotoosiyeHargeysa(Waaheen) Wasiirka wasaarada Caafimadaka Somaliland Mudane saleebaan Ciise Axmed Xaglatoosiye ayaa maanta Dib Ugu Soo Laabatay Caasimada hargaysa Kadib marki Uu Ka Imid safar Shaqo uu uu ugu Maqnaa dalalka Kenya Iyo Djibouti Wasiirka Ayaa Ka Soo Dagey Gegada Diyaradaha Ee Cigaal Inter National Air-port Isaga oo Wasiirka taabtay kana Hadlay Shaqaaqooyin Dhawaan Ay Wadeen puntland waxaana uu Yidhi “ilaahay ayaa mahad leh igu soo nabad celiyey dalkaygii, waxaan ku maqnaa safar shaqo aan ku tagay wadanka Kenya kaas oo aan ku wada hadlaynay haayadaha deeqaha bixiya, wada hadalkayagaasi waxa uu ku saabsanaa sidii loogu dedaali lahaa adeegyada caafimaad ee Somaliland, “ wasiirku intaasi oo Kaliya Kuma uu so Gaba Gabeeyn Ee Waxaa uu Raaciyay. “Waxa kale oo aan soo maray wadanka jabuuti oo aan la soo kulmay wasiirka caafimaadka dalkaas, waxaanan uga mahad celinayaa wasiirka caafimaadka jabuuti deeq daawo ah oo ugu deeqay wadanka Somaliland.” “doorasho kama socota deegaamada bariga balse maamulka Puntland qas ayey Ka wadaan, waxanaan maamulka puntland u soo jeedin lahaa inay ka waantoobaan qaska iyo dhibka ay ka wadaan deegaankaas, wax doorasho ah oo ay ka dhacaya deegaankaasina ma jirto” “sida ugu dhakhsaha badan ayaan u tagayaa deegaanka buuhoodle, barnaamijkii nabadeed intii ka dhinayd waan dhamaystiraynaa.”ayuu yidhi wasiir Saleebaan

Somaliland: A Foreigner’s Perspective HARGEISA - "For a foreigner, coming to Somaliland it can feel a bit like stepping into a blank space on the map. Before I arrived in Hargeisa three weeks ago, I decided to educate myself about the country by reading everything I could. Unfortunately, given the limited levels of tourism and press coverage of this nation, even when I went on an active search for information, most of what I found was fragmentary, out-dated, and at the very worst contradictory. To my mind, though, that was no deterrence, but rather all the more reason to come here: to fill in these massive gaps in my personal knowledge of the region, to come to know Somaliland as best I can, and to bring that knowledge back to my little corner of the world. Given my personal interests in history and Islamic knowledge, I've spent a great portion of my time here exploring sites associated with the pre-colonial Islamic kingdoms that inhabited Somaliland. Thus far I have journeyed into the Awdal region, where I was able to visit numerous ruins, ancient cities, and burial sites. Fortunately for other tourists, some of the most impressive of these sites are actually the most accessible, located in the city of Zeila. While most of the sites in Zeila date to the time of the Ottoman Empire's presence on the northern Somali coast, their architecture is unique when compared to other Ottoman buildings and deserve attention and respect just for that fact. However, there are a number of even older historical sites in Zeila (the Qiblatain, although largely ruined, retains some notable features) and on Sa'ad ad-Din Island. Unfortunately not much is known about these old sites. In many cities and towns near the sites, I was saddened to find that those elders who knew the stories and legends associated with the region's history have either died of old age or were killed in the war preceding the withdrawal of Somaliland from Somalia. It is a strange and heartbreaking thing to witness history slipping away. And as this knowledge and respect for the historical sites departs with the death of those who knew about them, the sites themselves face serious threats. In Zeila, a number of structures have begun to collapse in recent years, while other Ottoman-era buildings, over five-hundred years old, have been reduced to trash pits, piled high with scraps of paper and used water bottles. Even more tragically, the site of Ex-Amud appears to have once been a massive settlement which could have been a world-class historical site and tourist attraction. But all of its structures have been torn down, looted for building materials to be used in modern developments. I have been able to learn much about the history of pre-colonial Somaliland from these sites and the remaining stories and poems associated with them. But I worry that in the future those who come, like me, with a historical interest in the region will find little to nothing left to explore. Somaliland's historical sites are, to be sure, only one element of what it has to offer to visitors and to the world (I intend to spend the next couple of weeks exploring modern life in Somaliland, leaving behind history to learn what the nation has to offer today). However, they are wonderful sites, historically noteworthy and deserving of future study. And thus they are worthy of the pride and protection of the Somaliland state. I have cherished the opportunity to visit these national treasures, and I deeply hope that many more will be able to share that opportunity and joy in the future." Mark Hay is also the writer of Somaliland is a real country according to Somaliland

Dr osman are kings in qardho unhappy with farooles scam elections tell us the latest.

So faroole stopped supporting clan federalism that is good, by the way whats the source ?

Carafaat;968739 wrote: Somalia, its ramadan and I don't want to engage in any personal attacks. But I want to respond on your comparisement that I think is rather wrong on all fronts. Because the chaos and violence in Puntland was not because the elections were delayed, but because people didn't want these "scam" election to take place. From Galkacyo to Qardho it lead to violance, killings and many wounded. And people burning the ballot boxes. " frameborder="0" allowfullscreen> Qardho this morning Galkacyo this morning Slaanta leh Xisbiyada doooni mayno:D

Somalia;968733 wrote: To the 3 Somalilanders who entered this thread to score points and think they invented democracy, how many times have elections been cancelled in Somaliland, in fact how many just under former National Security Service division chief under Siad Barre, Colonel Riyaale, president of Somaliland? Chaos feared as Somaliland cancels elections You are comparing apples to oranges, Somaliland never cancelled elections one day before the election day because of instability or because people refused to cooperate with the electoral commission. What is the reason faroole cancelled the election scam of the garowe clan enclave. We know why the SL senate postponed, the elections because there was no voter registrations. Not because of instability or people refusing to cooperate with the electoral commission. Is there actually a new date for the new elections in garowe or did faroole decide to get rid of it altogether. And what gives him the the absolute right to do so , where are the other stake holders where is the parliament.

Carafaat;968725 wrote: This is what you get when you do things in the wrong order. It took nearly dozens of killing in Galkacyo and Qardho and standoffs everywhere for Faroole to realize that his Election scam wouldn't work and could lead to more violance and war. I wonder how many killings and wars does it take to make him realize clan federalism is the wrong proscription for Somalia. And deciding wich governance structure should have without evaluating what caused 22 yeats off is putting the card before the horse again. Democracy is not part of the political culture of the Pirates they have no grasp of how it works how elections should be conducted. I think they should stop wasting their times and just give it a rest. How can all the regions qardho galkacyo rejected the elections.

The oil is better of in Kenyan hands, Kenyans are much more civilized than Somalis had the oil be found in Somalia there would be another civil war in Somalia over resources. Atleast Kenans know how to share a country a state and its resources. Good for the Somali kenyans it will benefit them and the rest of Kenya ofcourse

DP

i always knew pirates could not hold elections this is nothing new

Quraan jecel what a name is it a Ramadan name , or is that his actual name. By the way Somaliland has the right to deploy troops into the sanaag region which is a Somaliland region. Well what can we say Detoore the Pirates do not have much friends in the region. They are not friends with Hargeysa not friends with Mogadishu, very difficult situation the HAG elites made sure u have no longer agents in Mogadishu operating there. Let see how this development turns out in the next coming months and weeks.

Good for the Somali Kenyans and Kenya as a nation , this will make Kenya even more a stronger nation in Africa with allot of economic growth.

My Fav Sheikh Abdulbasit.

A very British export: guns and mercenaries to fight piracy in Somalia Growth of self-regulated maritime security industry alarms arms campaigners Somali pirate Licenses for UK arms exports to Sri Lanka were worth more than £3m in just three months in 2012, with more than £2m under the small arms 'ML1' label. Photograph: Mohamed Dahir/AFP/Getty Images In the genteel world of clay pigeon and game shooting, the Sportsman Gun Centre is something of a household name as Britain's leading purveyor of hunting rifles and related paraphernalia ranging from silk ties adorned with pheasant motifs, through moleskin breeches and tweed gilets, to full camouflage suits. Lately however, the Exeter-based company appears to have been branching out into rather more exotic territory: details released by the government under the Freedom of Information Act reveal that it received licences last year to export more than 1,000 assault rifles, combat shotguns, pistols and other weapons to Sri Lanka. The licences were granted at a time when UK arms exports to the south Asian country have been on the increase. Sri Lanka was the stated destination for military items worth more than £3m in just three months last year. More than £2m of those exports was under the "ML1" label – used by the UK's Export Control Organisation (ECO) to denote small arms and weapons. Yet, rather than going to the military of a country still classified by the Foreign Office as a "country of concern" for human rights abuses, the weapons sales are an apparent spin-off from a boom area for many British businesses – the protection of shipping from Somali pirates. It is four years since raiders based on the Somali coast began to terrorise the busy shipping lanes of the Indian Ocean, and in that time the maritime security business has mushroomed on an unprecedented scale. It is now worth £100m a year to British companies according to ADS, a trade organisation for the UK's aerospace, defence, security and space industries. UK-based maritime security companies account for some 75% of the market, and more than 300 security companies operate in the Indian Ocean region including from Sri Lanka. "We absolutely dominate the market," says Paul Gibson, a former army officer and director of counterterrorism at the Ministry of Defence who now directs the Security in Complex Environments Group (SCEG), which was established by ADS in 2011. "On the back of Iraq and Afghanistan and our general reputation, shipowners feel that a British security company is going to do the right sort of thing. We were in at the beginning and we have pretty much maintained that reputation, remaining the first choice for many of the big owners. There are an awful lot of ex-Royal Marines in the business." The arms sales do not only go to Sri Lanka, where private military security companies involved in anti-piracy operations store their munitions and weapons. Further export control statistics show that export licences for £8.5m of specifically military items, together with £36.8m worth of dual-use (civil and military) items, were granted last year for exports to Kenya – another base for maritime security companies (and, incidentally, pirate bosses). The export records come with a footnote explaining exactly what is being sent to protect the shipping lanes: "Licences … were issued for use in maritime anti-piracy operations – assault rifles, body armour, components for assault rifles, components for pistols, components for rifles, direct view imaging equipment, military helmets, pistols, rifles, small arms ammunition, weapon sights, components for body armour, components for sporting guns, high quantities of sporting guns and combat shotguns." The increased focus on security at sea appears to be working. To date, no ship with armed guards has been hijacked in the Indian Ocean, a region that saw 189 pirate attacks in 2011 alone. Estimated ransom payments in that year were $160m (£106m), a considerable financial blow for many companies. But the maritime security industry is not without its critics. Kaye Stearman of the Campaign Against Arms Trade said there was widespread concern about the use of private security companies. A UN working group on mercenaries has warned that a lack of regulation for armed security on ships, together with an absence of robust reporting for incidents at sea, create human rights risks. "Although hundreds of companies have signed up to an international code of conduct for private security providers, this is a voluntary agreement," said Stearman. "In the case of Sri Lanka, there is always the possibility that weapons supposedly licensed for use in anti-piracy operations will be used within Sri Lanka. Once weapons are licensed and despatched abroad, the exporter has no control over how or where they are used." Gibson argues that the British government's decision to let the industry self-regulate is working. "It was a completely unregulated sector but there are an awful lot of ex-British military involved. They brought with them that conscience of trying to do the right thing, operating within the rule of law and respecting human rights," he said. There is now a specialist City & Guilds qualification for maritime security operatives, and an international standard has been created, audited by a third party. From September there will also be an international code of conduct for security providers and a Geneva-based international association charged with oversight. A spokesman for the Foreign Office said that the government operated one of the most rigorous arms export control regimes in the world. He added: "This includes requiring end users to provide a declaration that states the intended use and location for the products. They are also assessed carefully against the risk that the goods might be diverted or re-exported to undesirable end uses or end users." The Sportsman Gun Centre – which is run by businessman Gary Lamburn and has three outlets in the West Country, Dorset and Wales – was not forthcoming about who placed the orders for the 1,000 weapons it was granted licences to export to Sri Lanka. The company may have yet to act on the licences, the deals may have been cancelled, or Sportsman may simply not accept they are exporting to Sri Lanka when the arms are for use at sea by a private company. "It is our policy to respect client confidentiality so we are unable to comment on specific transactions," the firm said. "However, we have never exported any weapons to Sri Lanka.

Classified mayaa reer budhcad badeed lama tol aha reer Khatumo, reer khatumo waxay la dhiig yihin the Afro Hashimiates

Tillamook;968575 wrote: Rubbish. Nobody is against any clan here, so make sure you take your hallucination medication as soon as you break your fast today!--clearly the month of Ramadan and your inability to take your medicine is causing this nonsense you're publishing. Only in your dreams they are not against a Clan to be honest with you they are sick and tired of the SSDF pirate clan, the same is happening in other parts of the garowe clan enclave. These are the facts on the ground, the scam elections along with the garowe clan enclave has been rejected.

Awdal iyo gabiley wa reer galbeed wana isku mid dad isku mid ah baan ka so qaada anigu , wa dad lahjad huuno leh runti. Laakin tol iyo qaran ba naga dhexeya dadkaas. Adigu maxaad ahayd horta.koley reer budhcad badeed baad wax isku tihin wa adiga mar mar gubta markan ka sheekeyo eh.

Mayaaa, Qabiilada kale eh SL baan ahay.