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  1. Somalida waxaay ku mahmahdaa ninki ishiisa laka argo ayaa ushiisa laku tumaa. don't you thing we (somalis) look down on each other, and hatefull to each other. probably they get closer to him thinking he can help to minimize their worries while he ws ther to study how uncililize people behave or they talk to him how they are better clan then any other clan in somalia. maybe he was trying to understand muslims, but they give him wrong impresion by chewing khat day in and day out. he isn't a loser somalis are losers.
  2. QUOTE]Originally posted by underdog: A group of girlfriends are on vacation when they see a 5-story hotel with a sign that reads: "For Women Only". Since they are without their boyfriends and husbands, they decide to go in. The bouncer, a very attractive guy, explains to them how it works. "We have 5 floors. Go up floor by floor, and once you find what you are looking for, you can stay there. It's easy to decide since each floor has a sign telling you what's inside." So they start going up and on the first floor the sign reads: "All the men on this floor are short and plain." The friends laugh and without hesitation move on to the next floor. The sign on the second floor reads: "All the men here are short and handsome." Still, this isn't good enough, so the friends continue on up. They reach the third floor and the sign reads: "All the men here are tall and plain." They still want to do better, and so, knowing there are still two floors left, they continued on up. On the fourth floor, the sign is perfect: "All the men here are tall and handsome." The women get all excited and are going in when they realize that there is still one floor left. Wondering what they are missing, they head on up to the fifth floor. There they find a sign that reads: "There are no men here. This floor was built only to prove that there is no way to please a woman." now u know why you can't find the perfect guy
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  4. In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful What Does the Bible Say about Muhammed, the Prophet of Islam Peace and Blessings of Allah be Upon Him A lecture by Ahmed Deedat -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Say: 'Do you see whether this message be from Allah (God Almighty), and yet you reject it, and a witness from among the Children of Israel bore witness of one like him.' " (the Holy Quran 46:10) Mr. Chairman, Ladies and Gentlemen, The subject of this evening's talk - "What the Bible says about Muhammed" will no doubt come as a surprise to many of you because the speaker is a Muslim. How does it come about that a Muslim happens to be expounding prophecies from the Jewish and Christian Scriptures? As a young man, about 30 years ago, I attended a series of religious lectures by a Christian theologian, a certain Rev. Hiten, at the "Theater Royal", Durban in South Africa. Pope or Kissinger?: This Reverend gentleman was expounding Biblical prophecies. He went on to prove that the Christian Bible foretold the rise of Soviet Russia, and the Last Days. At one stage he went to the extent of proving that his Holy Book did not leave even the Pope out of its predictions. He expatiated vigorously in order to convince his audience that the Beast 666 mentioned in The Book of Revelation, the last book of the New Testament, was the Pope, who was the Vicar of Christ on earth. Christian scholars are ingenious and indefatigable in their efforts to prove their case. Rev. Hiten's lectures led me to ask that if the Bible foretold so many things - not even excluding the "Pope" and "Israel", - then surely it must have something to say about the greatest benefactor of mankind, prophet Muhammed, may the peace of Allah be upon him. As a youngster I set out to search for an answer. I met priest after priest, attended lectures, and read everything that I could lay my hands relating to the fields of Bible prophecies. Tonight I'm going to narrate to you one of these interviews with a Dominee of the Dutch Reformed Church. Lucky Thirteen : I was invited to the Transvaal (South Africa) to deliver a talk on the occasion of the birthday of the prophet Muhammed. Knowing that in that province of the Republic, the Afrikaans language is widely spoken, even by my own people, I felt that I ought to acquire a smattering of this language so as to feel a little "at home" with the people. I opened the telephone directory and began phoning the Afrikaans-speaking Churches. I indicated my purpose to the priests that I was interested in having a dialogue with them, but they all refused my request with "plausible" excuses. No. 13 was my lucky number. The thirteenth call brought me pleasure and relief. A Dominee Van Heerden ("Dominee" is the Afrikaans equivalent of "priest") agreed to meet me at his home on the Saturday afternoon that I was to leave for Transvaal. He received me on his verandah with a friendly welcome. He said if I did not mind, he would like his father-in- law from the Free State, a 70 year old man, to join us in the discussion. I did not mind. The three of us settled down in the Dominee's library. Why Nothing? I posed the question: "What does the Bible say about Muhammed?" Without hesitation he answered: "Nothing!" I asked: "Why nothing? According to your interpretation the Bible has so many things to say about the rise of Soviet Russia and about the Last Days and even about the Pope of the Roman Catholics?" He said: "Yes, but there was nothing about Muhammed!" I asked again: "Why nothing? Surely this man Muhammed who had been responsible for the bringing into being a world-wide community of millions of believers who, on his authority, believe in: the miraculous birth of Jesus, that Jesus is the Messiah, that he gave life to the dead by God's permission, and that he healed those born blind and the lepers by God's permission. Surely this book (the Bible) must have something to say about this great leader of men who spoke so well of Jesus and his mother Mary?" The old man from the Free State replied: "My son, I have been reading the Bible for the past 50 years, and if there was any mention of him, I would have known it." Not One by Name! I inquired: "According to you, are there not hundreds of prophecies regarding the coming of Jesus in the Old Testament." The Dominee interjected: "Not hundreds, but thousands!" I said: "I am not going to dispute the thousand and one prophecies in the Old Testament regarding the coming of Jesus Christ, because the whole Muslim world has already accepted him without the testimony of any Biblical prophecy. Muslims have accepted the de facto Jesus on the authority of Muhammed alone, and there are in the world today no less than 900,000,000 followers of Muhammed, who love, respect, and revere Jesus Christ as a great Messenger of God without having the Christians to convince them by means of Biblical dialectics. Out of the 'thousands' of prophecies referred to, can you please give me just one single prophecy where Jesus is mentioned by name? The term Messiah, translated as Christ, is not a name but a title. Is there a single prophecy where it says that the name of the Messiah will be Jesus, and that his mother's name will be Mary, that his supposed father will be Joseph the Carpenter; that he will be born in the reign of Herod the King, etc? No! There are no such details! Then how can you conclude that those 'Thousand' prophecies refer to Jesus, peace be upon him?" What is Prophecy? The Dominee replies: "You see, prophecies are word pictures of something that is going to happen in the future. When that thing actually comes to pass, we see vividly in these prophecies the fulfillment of what had been predicted in the past." I said: "What you actually do is that you deduce, you reason, you put two and two together." He said: "Yes." I said: "If this is what you have to do with a 'thousand' prophecies to justify your claim with regards to the genuineness of Jesus, why should we not adopt the very same system for Muhammed?" The Dominee agreed that it was a fair proposition, a reasonable way of dealing with the problem. I asked him to open up Deuteronomy, chapter 18, verse 18, which he did. I read from memory the verse in Afrikaans, because this was my purpose in having a little practice with the language of the ruling race in South Africa. "N Profeet sal ek vir hulle verwek uit die midde van hulle broers, soos jy is, en ek sal my woorde in sy mond le, en hy sy sal aan hulle se alle wat ekhom beveel." (Deut 18:18) The English translation reads as follows: "I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him." (Deut 18:18) Prophet Like Moses : Having recited the verse in Afrikaans, I apologized for my uncertain pronunciation; the Dominee assured me that I was doing fine. I inquired: "To whom does this prophecy refer?" Without the slightest hesitation he answered: "Jesus!" I asked: "Why Jesus? his name is not mentioned here" The Dominee replied: "Since prophecies are word pictures of something that is going to happen in the future, we find that the wordings of this verse adequately describe him. You see, the most important words of this prophecy are 'soos jy is', 'like unto thee', or 'like you' - like Moses; and Jesus is like Moses." I asked the Dominee: "In which way is Jesus like Moses?" The answer was: "In the first place Moses was a Jew and Jesus was also a Jew; secondly, Moses was a Prophet and Jesus was also a Prophet - therefor Jesus is like Moses and that is exactly what God had foretold Moses - 'soos jy is'." "Can you think of any other similarities between Moses and Jesus?" I asked. The Dominee said that he could not think of any. I replied: "If these are the only two criteria for discovering a candidate for this prophecy of Deuteronomy 18:18, then in that case the criteria could fit any one of the following Biblical personages after Moses:- Solomon, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea, Joel, Malachi, John the Baptist etc., because they were also all Jews as well as Prophets. Why should we not apply this prophecy to any one of these prophets, and why only to Jesus?" The Dominee had no reply. I continued: "You see, my conclusions are that Jesus is most unlike Moses, and if I am wrong I would like you to correct me." Three Unlike : So staying, I reasoned with him: "In the first place Jesus is not like Moses, because, according to you, Jesus is God, but Moses is not God, is this true?" He said: "Yes." I said: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses!". "Secondly, according to you, Jesus died for the sins of the world, but Moses did not have to die for the sins of the world. Is this true?" He again said: "Yes." I said: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses!". "Thirdly, according to you, Jesus went to Hell for three days, but Moses did not have to go there. Is this true?" He answered meekly: "Y-e-s!" I concluded: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses!". "But Dominee,.." I continued: "..these are not hard, solid facts, they are mere matters of belief over which the little ones can stumble and fall. Let us discuss something very simple, very easy that if the little ones are called in to hear the discussion, would have no difficulty following it, shall we?" The Dominee was quiet happy at the suggestion. Father and Mother "Moses had a father and a mother. Muhammed also had a father and a mother. But Jesus had only a mother, and no human father. Is this true?" He said: "Yes." I said: "Daarom is Jesus nie soos Moses nie, maar Muhammed is soos Moses!" Meaning: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses, but Muhammed is like Moses!" (By now the reader will realize that I was using the Afrikaans language only for practice purposes. I shall discontinue its use in this narration). Miraculous Birth "Moses and Muhammed were born in the normal, natural course, i.e. the physical association of man and woman; but Jesus was created by a special miracle. You will recall that we are told in the Gospel of St. Matthew 1:18 "..before they came together, (Joseph the Carpenter and Mary) she was found with child by the Holy Ghost." And St. Luke tells us that when the good news of the birth of a holy son was announced to her, Mary reasoned: "How shall this be, seeing I know not a man? And the angel answered and said unto her, the Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the highest shall overshadow thee"(Luke 1:35). The Holy Quran confirms the miraculous birth of Jesus, in nobler and sublimer terms. In answer to her logical question: 'O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?' The angel says in reply: 'Even so, Allah createth what He willeth: when He hath decreed a plan, He but saith to it 'Be', and it is' (the Holy Quran, 3:47). It is not necessary for God to plant a seed in man or animal. He merely wills it and it comes into being. This is the Muslim conception of the of birth of Jesus. (When I compared the Quran and the Biblical versions of the birth of Jesus to the head of the Bible Society in our largest city, and when I inquired: "Which version would you prefer to give your daughter, the Quranic version or the Biblical version?" The man bowed his head and answered: "The Quranic.")(see Christ in Islam for the author). In short, I said to the Dominee: "Is it true that Jesus was born miraculously as against the natural birth of Moses and Muhammed?" He replied proudly: "Yes!" I said: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses, but Muhammed is like Moses. And God says to Moses in the Book of Deuteronomy 18:18 'Like unto thee', 'Like You', like Moses and Muhammed is like Moses." Marriage Ties "Moses and Muhammed married and had children, but Jesus remained a bachelor all his life. Is this true?" The Dominee said: "Yes." I said: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses, but Muhammed is like Moses." Jesus Rejected by his People "Moses and Muhammed were accepted as prophets by their people in their very lifetime. No doubt the Jews gave endless trouble to Moses and they murmured in the wilderness, but as a nation, they acknowledged that Moses was a Messenger of God sent to them. The Arabs too made Muhammed's life impossible. He suffered very badly at their hands. After 13 years of preaching in Mecca, he had to emigrate from the city of his birth. But before his demise, the Arab nation as a whole accepted him as the Messenger of Allah. But according to the Bible, "He (Jesus) Came unto his own, but his own revived him not"(John 1:11). And even today, after two thousand years, his people, the Jews, as a whole, have rejected him. Is this true?" The Dominee said: "Yes." I said: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses, but Muhammed is like Moses." "Other Worldly" Kingdom "Moses and Muhammed were prophets as well as kings. A prophet means a man who receives Divine Revelation for the Guidance of man and this Guidance he conveys to God's creatures as received without any addition or deletion. A king is a person who has the power of life and death over his people. It is immaterial whether the person wears a crown or not, or whether he was ever addressed as king or monarch: if the man has the prerogative of inflicting capital punishment, he is a king. Moses possessed such a power. Do you remember the Israelite who was found picking up firewood on Sabbath Day, and Moses had him stoned to death? (Numbers 15:13). There are other crimes also mentioned in the Bible for which capital punishment was inflicted on the Jews at the behest of Moses. Muhammed too, had the power of life and death over his people. There are instances in the Bible of persons who were given gift of prophecy only, but they were not in a position to implement their directives. Some of these holy men of God who were helpless in the face of stubborn rejection of their message, were the prophets Lot, Jonah, Daniel, Ezra, and John the Baptist. They could only deliver the message, but could not enforce the Law. Prophet Jesus, peace be upon him, also belonged to this category. The Christian Gospel clearly confirms this. When Jesus was dragged before the Roman Governor, Pontius Pilate, charged for sedition, Jesus made a convincing point in his defense to refute the false charge: Jesus answered: "My Kingdom is not of this world. If my Kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews; but now is my Kingdom not from hence"(John 18:36). This convinced Pilate (a pagan) that though Jesus might not be in full possession of his mental faculty, he did not strike him as being a danger to his rule. Jesus claimed a spiritual Kingdom only; in other words he only claimed to be a prophet. Is this true?" The Dominee answered: "Yes." I said: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses but Muhammed is like Moses." No New Laws "Moses and Muhammed brought new laws and new regulations for their people. Moses not only gave the Ten Commandments to the Israelites, but a very comprehensive ceremonial law for the guidance of his people. Muhammed comes to a people steeped in ignorance. They married their step-mothers and buried their daughters alive; drunkenness, idolatry, and gambling were the order of the day. There was hardly anything to distinguish between the 'man' and the 'animal' of the time. From this abject ignorance, Muhammed elevated the Arabs, in the words of Thomas Carlysle, 'Into torch-bearers of light and learning. To the Arab nation it was as a birth from darkness into light. Arabia first became alive by means of it. A poor shepherd people, roaming unnoticed in its deserts since the creation of the world. See, the unnoticed becomes world notable, the small has grown world-great. Within one century afterwards Arabia was at Granada on one hand and at Delhi on the other. Glancing in valor and splendor, and the light of Genius, Arabia shines over section of the world..'. The fact is that Muhammed gave his people a Law and Order they never had before. As regards Jesus, when the Jews felt suspicious of him that he might be an impostor with designs to pervert their teachings. Jesus took pains to assure them that he had not come with a new religion - no new laws and no new regulations. I quote his own words: "Think not that I am come to destroy the law of the Prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. For verily I say unto you, till heaven and earth pass, one jot of one title shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.'(Mathew 5:17-18). In other words he had not come with any new laws or regulation he came only to fulfill the old law. This what he gave the Jews to understand unless he was speaking with the tongue in his cheek trying to bluff the Jews into accepting him as a man of God and by subterfuge trying to ram a new religion down their throats. No! This Messenger of God would never resort to such foul means to subvert the Religion of God. He himself fulfilled the laws. He observed the commandments of Moses, and he respected the Sabbath. At no time did a single Jew point a finger at him to say: '"Why don't you fast' or 'why don't you wash your hands before you break bread', which charges they always levied against his disciples, but never against Jesus. This is because as a good Jew he honored the laws of the prophets who preceded him. In short, he had created no new religion and had brought no new law like Moses and Muhammed." "Isn't this true?" I asked the Dominee, and he answered: "Yes." I said: "Therefore, Jesus is not like Moses but Muhammed is like Moses." How they Departed "Both Moses and Muhammed died natural deaths, but according to Christianity, Jesus was killed on the cross. Is this true?" The Dominee said: "Yes." I averred: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses but Muhammed is like Moses." Heavenly Abode "Moses and Muhammed both lie buried in earth, but according to you, Jesus is in heaven. Is this true? The Dominee agreed. I said: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses but Muhammed is like Moses." Ishmael the First Born Since the Dominee was helplessly agreeing with every point, I said: "Dominee, so far what I have done is to prove only one point out of the whole prophecy - that is proving the phrase 'Like unto thee' - 'Like You', like Moses'. The Prophecy is much more than this single phrase which reads as follows: 'I will raise them up a prophet from among their bretheren like unto thee..' The emphasis is on the words "From among their brethren." Moses and his people, the Jews, are here addressed as a racial entity, as a whole, and as such their brethren would undoubtedly be the Arabs. Abraham had two wives, Sarah and Hagar. Hagar bore Abraham a son, his first born, '..and Abraham called his son's name, which Hagar bare Ishmael.' (Genesis 16:15). 'And Abraham took Ishmael his son..' (Genesis 17:23). 'And Ishmael his son was thirteen years old, when he was circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin.' (Genesis 17:25). Up to the age of thirteen Ishmael was the only son of Abraham, then God grants him another son through Sarah, named Isaac, who was very much the junior to his brother Ishmael. Arabs and Jews If Ishmael and Isaac are the sons of the same father Abraham, then they are brothers. And so the children of the one are the bretheren of the children of the other. The children of Isaac are the Jews and the children of Ishmael are the Arabs - so they are bretheren to one another. The Bible affirms: 'And he (Ishmael) shall dwell in the presence of all his bretheren.' (Genesis 16:12). 'And he (Ishmael) died in the presence of all his bretheren." (Genesis 25:18). The children of Isaac are the brethren of the Ishmaelites. In like manner Muhammed is from among the brethren of the Israelites because he was a descendant of Ishmael the son of Abraham. This exactly as the prophecy has it - "From among their bretheren" (Deut.18:18). There the prophecy distinctly mentions that the coming prophet who would be like Moses, must arise not from the Children of Israel nor from among themselves, but from among their brethren. Muhammed therefore was among their bretheren! Words in the Mouth The prophecy proceeds further: '..And I will put my words into his mouth..' What does it mean when it is said 'I will put my words in your mouth'? You see, when I asked you (the Dominee) to open Deuteronomy chapter 18, verse 18, at the beginning, and if I had asked you to read, and if you had read, would I be putting my words into your mouth? The Dominee answered: "No." But, I continued: "If I were to teach you a language like Arabic, about which you have no knowledge, and if I asked you to read or repeat after me what I utter i.e. "Say: 'He is Allah the One and Only; Allah, the eternal absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; and there is none like unto Him.' (the Holy Quran 112:1-4) (I read them in Arabic). Would I not be putting these unheard words of a foreign tongue which you utter, into your mouth?" The Dominee agreed that it was indeed so. "In an identical manner", I said: "The words of the Holy Quran, the Revelation vouchsafed by the Almighty God to Muhammed, were revealed. History tells us that when Muhammed was forty years of age he was in a cave some three miles north of the City of Mecca. In the cave the Archangel Gabriel commands him in his mother tongue: 'Eqra!', which means 'Read!', or 'Recite!' Muhammed was terrified, and in his bewilderment replied that he was not learned!. The angel commands him a second time with the same result. For the third time the angel continues. Now Muhammed, grasps that what was required of him was to repeat! to rehearse! And he repeats the words as they were put into his mouth: 'Read! In the Name of the Lord and Charisher, Who Created. Created man from a (mere) clot of congealed blood: Read! and thy Lord is the Most Bountiful, He Who taught (the use of) the pen, taught man that which he new not". (the Holy Quran 96:1-5). These are the first five verses which were revealed to Muhammed, which now occupy the beginning of the 96th chapter of the Holy Quran. The Faithful Witness When the angel departed, Muhammed rushed to his home. Terrified and sweating all over he asked his wife Khadija to 'cover-him up!' He lay down, and she watched by him. When he had regained his composure, he explained to her what he had seen and heard. She assured him of her faith in him and that Allah would not allow any terrible thing to happen to him. Are these the confessions of an impostor? Would impostors confess that when an angel of the Lord confronts them with a Message from on High, they get fear-stricken, terrified, and sweating all over, run home to their wives? Any critic can see that his reactions and confessions are that of an honest, sincere man. During the next twenty three years of his life, words were 'put into his mouth', and he uttered them. They made an indelible impression on his heart and mind; and as the volume of the Sacred Scripture, the Holy Quran, grew, they were recorded on palm-leaf libre, on skins; and in the hearts of his devoted disciples. Before his demise these words were arranged according to his instructions in the order in which we find them today in the Holy Quran. The words (revelation) were actually put into his mouth, exactly as foretold in the prophecy under discussion: "And I will put my words in his mouth." (Deut 18:18). Unlettered Prophet Muhammed's experience in the Cave of Hira, and his response to that first Revelation is the exact fulfillment of another Biblical Prophecy. In the Book of Isaiah, chapter 29, verse 12, we read: 'And the Book is delivered to him that is not learned' (Isaiah 29:12). 'The Unlettered prophet' (the Holy Quran 7:158). And the Biblical verse continues: 'Saying, read this, I pray thee:' 'And he saith, I am not learned.'. 'I am not learned.' is the exact translation of the Arabic words which Muhammed uttered twice to the Holy Spirit, the Archangel Gabriel, when he was commanded: 'Read!'). Let me quote the verse in full without a break as found in the King James Version, or the Authorised Version as it is more popularly know: 'And the Book is delivered to him that is no learned, saying: 'Read this I pray thee'. And he saith: 'I am not learned.' ' (Isaiah 29:12). Important note : It may be noted that there were no Arabic Bibles in existence in the 6th century of the Christian Era when Muhammed lived and preached. Besides, he was absolutely unlettered and unlearned. He never knew how to read and write Arabic, his own language, let alone knowing a completely different one. 'He does not speak (aught) of (his own) desire: It is no less than inspiration sent down to him. He was taught by One Mighty in Power' (the Holy Quran 53:3-5). Without any human learning, 'he put to shame the wisdom of the learned'. Grave Warning "See!" I told the Dominee, "how the prophecies fit Muhammed like a glove. We do not have to stretch prophecies to justify their fulfillment in Muhammed." The Dominee replied, "All your expositions sound very well, but they are of no real consequence, because we Christians have Jesus Christ the incarnate God, who has redeemed us from the Bondage of Sin!" I asked: "Not important? God didn't think so! He had His warnings recorded in the scriptures. God knew that there would be people like you who will light-heartedly discount His words, so He followed up Deuteronomy 18:18 with a dare warning: 'And it shall come to pass (it is going to happen), that whosoever will not hearken unto My words which he shall speak in My Name, I will require if of him.' (In the Catholic Bible the ending words are 'I will be the revenger', 'I will take revenge!'). "Does not this terrify you? God Almighty is threatening revenge! We shake in our pants if some hoodlum threatens us, yet you have no fear of God's warning?" Miracle of Miracles! in the verse 19 of Deuteronomy chapter 18, we have a further fulfillment of the prophecy in Muhammed! Note the words '..My words which he shall speak in My Name'. In whose name is Muhammed speaking?" I opened Yusuf Ali's translation of the Holy Quran, at chapter 114, Surat An-Nas, or The Chapter of Mankind, the last chapter of the Quran, and showed him the formula at the head of the chapter, and the meaning: 'In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful'. And the heading of chapter 113, and the meaning: 'In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful'. And every chapter downwards 112, 111, 110,..was the same formula and the same meaning on every page, because the end surahs (chapters) are short and take about a page each. And what did the prophecy demand? '..Which he shall speak in My Name'; and in whose name does Muhammed speak? In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful. The Prophecy is being fulfilled in Muhammed to the letter; every chapter of the Holy Quran except the 9th begin with the formula: 'In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful'. The Muslim begins his every lawful act with the Holy formula. But the Christian begins: 'In the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost.' Concerning Deuteronomy chapter eighteen, I have given you more than 15 reasons as to how this prophecy refers to Muhammed and not to Jesus. Baptist Contradicts Jesus In New Testament times, we find that the Jews were still expecting the fulfillment of the prophecy of One like Moses, refer John 1:19-25. When Jesus claimed to be the Messiah of the Jews, the Jews began to esquire as to where was Elias? The Jews had a parallel prophecy that before the coming of the Messiah, Elias must come first in his second coming. Jesus confirms this Jewish belief: "Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things. But I say unto you, that Elias is come already, and they knew him not,.. then the Disciples understood that he spoke unto them of John the Baptist." (Mathew 17:11-13). According to the New Testament the Jews were not the ones to swallow the words of any would-be Messiah. In their investigations they underwent intense difficulties in order to find their true Messiah. And this the Gospel of John confirms: "And this is the record of John (the Baptist), when the Jews sent priests and levites from Jerusalem to ask him, 'Who art thou?', and he confessed and denied not; but confessed, 'I am not the Christ' " (This was only natural because there can't be two Messiahs at the same time. If Jesus was the Christ then John couldn't be the Christ!) "And they asked him: 'What then? Art thou Elias?' And he saith: 'I am not' " Here John the Baptist contradicts Jesus! Jesus says that John is Elias and John denies that he is what Jesus ascribes him to be. One of the two (Jesus or John), God forbid!, is definitely not speaking the truth! On the testimony of Jesus himself, John the Baptist was the greatest of the Israelite prophets: "Verily I say unto you, among them that are born of women, there has not risen a greater than John the Baptist" (Matthew 11:11). We Muslims know John the Baptist as Yahya. We revere him as a true prophet of Allah. The Holy Prophet Jesus known to us as Eesa, is also esteemed as one of the mightiest messenger of the Almighty. How can we Muslims impute lies to either of them? We leave this problem between Jesus and John for the Christians to solve, for their "Sacred Scriptures abound in discrepancies which they have been glossing over as the 'dark sayings of Jesus' " (See the Times Magazine December 30th, 1974, article How true is the Bible?). We Muslims are really interested in the last questions posed to John the Baptist by the Jewish elite - Art thou that prophet? And he answered, "No."(John 1:21). Three Questions! Please note that three different and distinct questions were posed to John the Baptist, and to which he gave three emphatic No's as answers. To recapitulate: "Art thou the Christ?" "Art thou Elias ?" "Art thou that Prophet?" But the learned men of Christendom somehow only see two questions implied here. To make doubly clear that the Jews definitely had three separate prophecies in their minds when they were interrogating John the Baptist. Let us read the remonstrance of the Jews in the verses following: "And they asked him, and said unto him: 'Why baptizest thou then, if thou be not that Christ.. nor Elias.. neither that Prophet ?' " (John 1:25). The Jews were waiting for the fulfillment of three distinct prophecies: a. the coming of Christ. b. the coming of Elias, and c. the coming of that Prophet. "That Prophet" If we look up any Bible which has a concordance or cross-references, then we will find in the marginal note where the words the Prophet, or that Prophet occur in John 1:25, that these words refer to the prophecy of Deuteronomy 18:15 and 18. And that that Prophet - the Prophet like Moses - "Like unto thee", we have proved through overwhelming evidence that he was Muhammed and not Jesus! Muslims are not denying that Jesus was the Messiah, which word is translated as Christ. We are not contesting the Thousand and One Prophecies which the Christians claim abound in the Old Testament foretelling the coming of the Messiah. What we say is that Deuteronomy 18:18 does not refer to Jesus Christ but it is an explicit prophecy about the prophet Muhammed!." The Dominee, very politely parted with me by saying that it was a very interesting discussion and he would like me very much to come one day and address his congregation on the subject. A decade and half has passed since then but I am still awaiting that privilege. I believe the Dominee was sincere when he made the offer, but prejudices die hard, and who would like to loose his sheep? The Acid Test To the Lambs of Christ I say, why not apply that acid test which the Master himself wanted you to apply to any would be claimant to prophethood? He had said: "By their fruits ye shall know them. Do men gather grapes from the thorns, of figs from the thistles? Every good tree will bear good fruit and every evil tree will bear evil fruit... By their fruits ye shall know them". (Mathew 7:16-20). Why are you afraid to apply this test to the teachings of Muhammed? You will find in the Last Testament of God, the Holy Quran, the true fulfillment of the teachings of Moses and Jesus which will bring to the world the much needed peace and happiness. George Bernard Shaw was quoted as saying: "If a man like Muhammed were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness." The weekly news magazine Time dated July 15, 1974, carried a selection of opinions by various historians, writers, military men, businessmen an others on the subject: "Who were History's Great Leaders?" Some said that it was Hitler; others said Gandhi, Buddha, Lincoln and the like. But Jules Masserman, a United States psychoanalyst, put the standards straight by giving the correct criteria wherewith to judge. He said: "Leaders must fulfill three functions: Provide for the well-being of the led, Provide a social organization in which people feel relatively secure, and Provide them with one set of beliefs." With the above three criteria he searches history and analyses Hitler, Pasteur, Gaesar, Moses, Confucius and the lot, and ultimately concludes: "People like Pasteur and Salk are leaders in the first sense. People like Ghandi and Confucius, on one hand, and Alexander, Caesar, and Hitler on the other, are leaders in the second, and perhaps the third sense. Jesus and Buddha belong in the third category alone. Perhaps the greatest leader of all times was Muhammed, who combined all three functions. To a lesser degree, Moses did the same." According to the objective standards set by the professor of the Chicago University, Jesus and Buddha are nowhere in the picture of the "Great Leaders of Mankind", but by a queer coincidence groups Moses and Muhammed together, thus adding further weight to the argument that Jesus is not like Moses, but Muhammed is like Moses. Deut 18:18 "Like unto thee", like Moses! In conclusion, I end with a quotation of a Christian Reverend the commentator of the Bible, followed by that of his Master: "The ultimate criterion of a true prophet is the moral character of his teaching." (Prof. Dummelow). "By their fruits ye shall know them." (Jesus Christ) A concluding suggestion : come let us reason together! "Say: 'O People of the Book! Come to common terms as between us and you: that we worship none but Allah (God); that we associate no partners with him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, lords and patrons other than Allah (God)'. If then they turn back, say: 'Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (Bowing to God's Will).' " (the Holy Quran 3:64) People of the Book is the respectful title given to the Jews and the Christians in the Holy Quran. The Muslims are here commanded to invite, O People of the Book!, O Learned People!, O People who claim to be the recipients of Divine Revelation, of a Holy Scripture; let us gather together onto a common platform, "that we worship none but Allah (God)", because none but God is worthy of worship, not because "The Lord thy God is a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate Me." (Exodus 20:25). But because He is our Lord and Cherisher, our Sustainer and Evolver, worthy of all praise, prayer and devotion. In the abstract the Jews and the Christians would agree to all the three propositions contained in this Quranic verse. In practice they fail. Apart from doctrinal lapses from the unity of the One True God, Allah, may He be praised, there is the question of a consecrated Priesthood (among the Jews it was hereditary also), as if a mere human being - Cohen or Pope, or Priest, or Brahuman, - could claim superiority apart from his learning and the purity of his life, or could stand between man and God in some special sense. Islam does not recognize priesthood!. The Creed of Islam is given to us here in a nutshell from Holy Quran: "Say ye: 'We believe in Allah, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes (of the Children of Israel), And that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) Prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to Allah (in Islam).' " (the Holy Quran 2:136). The Muslim position is clear. The Muslim does not claim to have a religion peculiar to himself. Islam is not a sect or an ethnic religion. In its view all religion is one, for the Truth is one: "It was the same religion preached by all the earlier prophets." (the Holy Quran 42:13). It was the truth taught by all the inspired Books. In essence it amounts to a consciousness of the Will and Plan of God and a joyful submission to that Will and Plan. If anyone wants a religion other than that, he is false to his own nature, as he is false to God's Will and Plan. Such a one cannot expect guidance, for he has deliberately renounced guidance. Now : Don't you think you need to read more about Islam and Christianity? To that end, the following literature is available FREE on request: What was the Sign of Jonah? Who Moved the Stone? Resurrection or Resuscitation? Is the Bible God's Word? what is His name? The God that Never Was. Islam's Answer to the Racial Problem. Christ in Islam. Crucifixion or Crucifixion? The Muslim at Prayer. Muhammed the Prophet of Islam. Please call or write to : The Islamic Propagation Centre International 124 Queen Street , Durban, 4001 Republic of South Africa Telephone (027-31) 306-0026. Telex (095) 6-21815 IPCI SA Telefax (027-31) 304- 0326 All the literature is absolutely free, but contributions towards their postage, packaging and publication are accepted and appreciated. This is an unauthorized modification of the English translation of the booklet. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Home Page of the Muslim Students Association of Oregon State University.
  5. ' HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT ABOUT IT ??? "All the stories in our World have just one theme and same idea. Fight between good and bad.." "Have you ever noticed, there's always some kind a struggle going on between the good and evil." "Anywhere you go, anywhere you look, its the same thing." "In schools, homes, offices, businesses, countries, everywhere." "Any TV show, any movie or video game: Same strory good fighting evil." " And we all want the good guy to win in the end and get whatever the prize, dont we.." "We do get sad when the good guy does not win. Its considered a sad or bad ending." Do you know why???." The truth about your life: Game of life begins!!! Please do not die, without knowing what you were really here for. " Just spend 5 minutes of your precious life here and read this. OK? " God is the infinity. He is the begining / end of everything.If you start finishing everything in this universe you will end up with something in the end. LAW OF PHYSIC: physical matter changes forms but never ends up to be zero. Something cannot be made with nothing, you have got to have something to make something. So this whole universe is not made by a mistake. THERE ARE REASONS BEHIND IT. God have uncountable ( not humanly possible to count ) numbers of angels and ginns to praise Him, day and night. So He, made a new creation better than angels and jinns and named him as "Adam" ( first male human ), and gave him all the wonderful things in the heavens (Jannah.) But after a while he requested the God for a companion because he was lonely. So God who is Most kind and most Gracious made a female "Eve" (Huwwa in Arabic) for him. GOD: Angel, Genie and then human {Adam and Eve} Angels / Genies (Jinns) God have uncountable Angels, And uncountable Genie (Jinns). Angels are made of Light. Jinns are made of Fire. Angels have no ability to decide or will. Jinns have the power to think/decide. Angels are assigned different duties by God. Jinns can decide between right/wrong. Angels do not have needs/desires. Jinns have needs/desires like humans. Angels can not reproduce. Jinns reproduce like humans. A test for Jinns: Somebody got jealous!!!!! Now that we have a clear idea of three main types of creatures ( Human, Jinn and Angels ) of God. Lets see what happens next: So God ordered angels to bow ( to put their heads on the ground infront of Adam and Eve) because God gave this new creature ( human couple ) a higher status than angels. So all the angels bowed to human couple (Adam and Eve.) No questions asked, they just did, what they were ordered to do. Next,God ordered Jinns to bow to the human couple whom He (God) gave higher status than jinns too. They all did except Satan ( shaytan in Arabic.) He used to pray more than any one else and was God's favourite. Satan was considered God's most pious jinns. He prayed day and nights non stop all his life, thats why he was kinda favourite of God. He was concidered better jinn than anybody else in the whole universe. So he got jealous. Since he is a jinn, he decided not to listen to God, and do what he thought was right. He became proud of himself. So Satan said: I am made of fire, this human is made of dirt (dust). I AM BETTER THAN HIM. Why should I bow to him? Do you think God liked it? No. God became furious with satan and ordered him out of the heavens. God said he is not obidient and should be punished and thrown in Hell. So satan requested that : " O my God, i know you are Most Kind and Merciful,, therefore give me atleast some time to prove that this human, that you created will disobey You like I did. {He will not praise and pray You (God) like You want him to}. He ( human ) is no better than me." Satan's challange to God: Even though satan made God so furious, God still accepted satan's request.Because He is Most Kind indeed. And God promised: Ok you are free till the day of judgement (last day of world), and any one who follows your footsteps will endup in Hell with you. So satan swore to misguide humans every single second of his life, in every possible way. His goal is to take as many humans, he can, with him to his final destination which is Hell. And God also said : He will send guidance to guide human beings from time to time, if they will stay on the right path their Reward is Heaven (Jannah) where they will live forever. If they did not listen to his guides (Prophets) and listened to the satan instead, then their destination will be Hell ( jahannum in Arabic), where they will be punished and tortured forever. But the deadline of this test is death and day of judgement (Yom-ul-kayama) From that moment the fight between the good and the bad began. Satan wants to prove what he said was right by misguiding us humans. Satan misguides us by putting wrong ideas in human brain so human cannot decide properly and instead ends up wrong or bad decisions by not doing the right thing. The human couple was living happily in heaven , thanking God for every thing, every day until,... The satan started trying to mislead Adam and his wife, and got them into eating the forbidden fruit (which was their first test) (they flunked it Big time !!!) and got them kicked out of the heaven. So God made a testing room for them [ this earth (Al-ard in Arabic) in 7 days and filled it with trees, plants, animals and water.] and provided whatever they needed to stay alive for their temporary stay ( Permanent stay was Heaven but due to this test thing we gotta stay in this examination hall for a while.) So God send this human couple to this world as a punishment, not for fun or vacation. (Heaven was billions x trillions x zillions x infinity times better.No pain and no hard work Just praise the God and enjoy!) God took away life in Heavens from them, which is absolutey uncompareable with the life here in the world. Adam and Eve cried their eyes out for days and probably months until God forgave them, since He is the most merciful. Human life begins on earth Adam and Eve started a family. And so did the Bad Jinns. Since satan is a Jinn, he reproduces / increasing in number. Behind every human there are two satans. But at the same time God has also assigned two angels on each side of humans. Angel on the right side writes and records all the good deads that you did and not did yet but intend to do.. Angel on the leftside writes and records all the bad deeds that you have done. Set of twins: In the begining Allah used to bless Adam and Eve with twins every time. One boy and one girl. So they could marry them off with the next pair of the twins. So satan did his job and one of the younger son wanted to marry his own twin sister instead of the other one because he thought she was more beautiful. Adam and Eve got mad at him and told him that he cant marry her. He can only marry the older girl from the first set of twins and older son will marry his twin sister. So when Adam was away for Haj,...younger brother got mad at older brother over this. Older brother 'Habeel' said I will not fight with you over this. So younger brother 'Kabeel' threw a stone at him that proved very fatal and Habeel died instantly. Now Kabeel did not know what had just happened. He had never seen any one die nor he knew death. He freaked. He feared that what would he say to his father. He got so afraid that his complexion became dark. Anyways he walked around for days carrying his brothers body not knowing what to do. Then Allah sent crows to show him what to do with the dead. He saw them burrying their dead and then he finally burried his older brother. As a result of anger(Satans work) one brother killed the other. First fight and first blood in the world was over a woman, between brothers, because of satan. Stone Age: No books, no Prophets, Rule of the Jungle in the world. Human increaed in number and needed guidance. They felt lost and scared after the deaths of their grandparents Adam and Eve. They did not know a lot of things. They needed a catalogue: ' How to live in this world.' They lived like animals. They had limited knowledge of the world. They started worshiping anything that scared them, or surprised them.. For example: sun, moon, thunders, oscean, animals, rain, fire etc. They thought if they worship these things, they wont harm them. Total ignorance prevailed. Plus satan's hard work. They forgot whatever they knew about God. So God started sending guidance for those who were looking for Him, like he promised to guide. Over the years He sent many Prophets at different times and places. Only three were sent with Holy books. 1. Torah So human beings increased in number and so did the race of satan. Too many human beings without any written rules. Imagine how much developed their brains would be at that time,......not much. I bet if they could see a computer, they would probably get scared. So Allah started sending them books of knowlege but easy ones and not too many complecated rules. Since God promised to send guidance, He did. God sent the Book " Torah " through Prophet Moses (Peace be upon him.) Some believed in him and some did not. People who believed in him are called " Jews " (Yahood) People who listened to satan started worshiping sun, trees and fire and animal, because of their ignorance. Jews were on the right path until they became more in number. New problems arose with passing time. They needed more rules about new things. That book needed to be updated since it did not cover everything. In Torah God predicted about sending another Prophet. So far: Number of religons: Two. 1. Non believers 2. Jews. 2. Bible So God sent another book with more advance knowledge: The Bible ( Injeel ) through Jesus ( Real name: Essa ) (Peace be upon him.) So half of the people who who still did not listen to satan, converted to Christanity and became Christians. And again there were some who did not. So now how many religons we got so far? Three. Non believers ( who worship anything but God ) Jews ( who did not convert ) Christians ( Non believers + Jews who listened to the Prophet Jesus and converted ) Nothing outragious or fictious or too hard to believe ??? Jesus was born miraculously by the command of God, Who had brought Adam in to being without a father and mother. Also the truth is Jesus was never crucified. It was the plan of Jesus's enemies to crucify him, but God saved him and raised him to Heaven. And his likeness was put over another man, ( certainly not a difficult thing to do for God ) and that man was crucified instead. Jesus is alive and will be back before the day of judgement to spread the word of one God. And then he will die a normal death. In Bible there was a prediction for one last Prophet, but now i think it has been taken out. How reliable Bible is, let me give you just one example: Last words of Jesus: You would expect atleast his last words to be accurate right? Wrong. They messed them up too. Gospels account give 3 different versions of the last words of the Jesus. Mathew and Mark quote him as crying," My God, my God why have you forsaken me?" In Luke he prays, " Father into your hands I place my spirit." In John he says, "It is finished." The problem with Bible was too many people writing too many different versions. A lot of things have been changed in Bible. why? What happens when a story travels from a person to person, in the end its totally diferent story. Thats what happened with the Bible, nobody tried to save it. 3.Quran God gave extraordinary powers to His Prophets, so they can prove that they have been sent by Him. God gave Prophet Essau --Jesus the power to heal, make dead alive. So satan did his job and put ideas in their heads and some of them started thinking he was either the God or his soul or son. Satan's job is to make things complicated so he did. Otherwise truth was simple. Why can't God send another Prophet, like Moses to save humans? (Jesus) What kind of a God has a son??? Why can't he have more sons??? Is he not the God??? If He can have one son like humans, why doesnt he have more relatives??? Why couldnt He save HIS ONLY SON? So his own creatures (humans) can be forgiven by HIMSELF? Is'nt everybody responsible for their own actions? How can someone die to cleanse you of your sins??? Does it sound ridiculous? Well it is. Sounds like the work of a famous jin-satan. " THINK ABOUT IT....." ***You wont get it, if your brain is under the contol of Satan. DOES IT REALLY MAKE SENSE !!! "Jesus--Essa was one of the many many Prophets of God. He never claimed to be God. His job was to bring the word of God in this world." So anyways Satan got busy doing his favourite thing messing up human minds. When things got bad again, people needed more rules more info, an UPDATED catalogue and a guide. God sent another book " Quran " through his last Prophet Mohammed (Salullahoalheywasalum). God promised to not to sent any more Prophets because Prophet Mohammed brought the rest of the info people needed. Info in Quran is sufficient for people till the day of judgement which is not very far from the time of arrival of the last guiding book. Last detailed and complete book of knowledge. One more thing God promised to keep every word of this book (Quran) safe till the last day. Its still is same the way it was thousands of years ago. Unchanged!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not a single letter. Result of Satan's success: SCORE BOARD * So lets see how many religons we got now: Four. See how this number is increasing? Non believers of God ( No Prohpets, no books) ( Extremely ignorant forefathers / everything is selfmade and without any reason !!!) Jews ( Dont believe in Jesus, still waiting for him to showup. Dont believe:Prophet Mohammed, and believe in Moses ) ( Still living in their past, too picky about Prophets ) Christians ( Dont believe in Mohammed(SAW) Believe in Moses and Jesus) ( Too confused, Multiple personality of God ( God, father, son, spirit, holy ghost etc.) Muslims ( Believe and respect all Prophets and their Books) i.e., Moses, Essa -Jesus, Mohammed (SAW) { Very strong faith, and strong sense of direction, no confusion about anything.} ( Believe in a direct link to God (ALLAH) not through anybody else ) So you see all Prophets said the same thing: Do good, be good and kind and stay away from evil and bad. Praise the One and same God ( They all used different names for the same God due to difference of languages.) So people who kept listening to Prophets time after time, book after book, did not REFUSE any Prophets or Books are called "Muslims" who were actually Christians in the begining and before that they were Jews. *** So you see only a good muslim is on the right path. Everybody else is on their way to be the fuel of Hell forever. I am not saying Muslims are the perfect ones and they never do anything wrong. Muslims are humans too and our common enemy Satan fools them too. Bad Muslims make all Muslims look bad. Because bad Muslims are the ones misguided by satan and they will be punished too. Everybody is resposible for their actions and how they finish their test, grade:A, B, C, D or F. There is no second chance for playing this game/test: called life.!!!! Even if you are Muslim that does'nt mean satan will give up on you and leave you alone. No, satan will try to mislead you until your last breath. There are some extremely good jews and christians, who probably never do anything wrong. Even though they dont pray to Allah, He rewards them for doing good in this world, becaues He is most Kind. When these people die they cant ask for heaven for doing good only. And they keep thinking they are blessed by their so called gods. Why? Satan's hard work!!!!! YOU HAVE GOT TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR TRUE CREATOR AND THANK HIM HERE. Thats why He created you. If you forgot him and then He will forget you on the Big day. Whose side are you on?? Are you a Good guy or bad guy??? So Dear Reader, stop for just one moment of your life, and breathe and think. Do you think you have been praying to the Right God all your life???? What if your are not??? Wouldnt it be a waste of entire life??? May be thats why you feel lost, empty and useless???? How would you feel if you have been extremely helpful and generous to someone and that some one never even acknowledeged you or said thankyou to you for all that you did for him????? I think you will feel bad and you will get mad too. Right?? How do you think God should treat you when you go back to face him where you came from??? GUESS WHAT, IF YOU DID NOT REMEMBER HIM HERE, YOU DONT GET A REWARD. SO you better make sure you worship the True and One and Only God, Who definitely desrves to be praised. Who put two eyes on the front of your head, so you can see where you are going. Who gave you a perfect system in your perfect body. Who made this whole world with everything in it for one sole reason: so you can have a good short stay in this motel called World. "You are here to pass or flunk your test called: LIFE." ( like it or not.) " So that your final and eternal destination can be determined; " " Based on your performance (lifetime) in this test room (Earth). " You've got to earn Paradise. You 've got to prove your are worth entering Jananh/paradise. " I think its fair. What do you think??? " "May Allah guide you to the truth before you see the last sunset of your precios life." Everybody has to go back, where they came from. TEST YOURSELF RIGHT NOW !!! Ok, If you want to see your belief is right or not, here is a test for you. If you are from anyother religon than Islam, try it. ( Muslims already know it.) 1. Take a shower 2. Wear clean clothes 3. Sit somewhere clean and close your eyes. **Best if you do in the late hours of night. Say this in your heart and mean it : "Oh my Real Creator, I know you are listening to me. Please guide me and help me find the true path because I feel I am lost. I cant find my way back without Your help. So help me find the truth, before I die. I leave this in Your hands. Help me find you please send me guidence. Ameen." Keep doing it until you feel He heard you. I gaurantee, if you really meant it you will find Him, in a way you wont even believe it. Just be on the look and keep your eyes, ears and heart open. May Allah have mercy on you and on all of us. Ameen.
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