lollllll, Sheikhzuber as the Arabs call it is one of Osama Bin Laden's favourite books.....

Indhacade declared war on the Ethiopians and gave them 7 days to leave in December 2006. The Ethiopians entered Somalia in june/july 2006.When he made those declarations in late December 2006, by this time thousands of Ethiopian troops were present in many Somali cities and the Ethiopian parliament had declared war on the I.C.U. You are right they are the cause of Ethiopia been in Somalia. But did they declare war on Ethiopian troops, when they were was no Ethiopian troops in Somalia? In other words, which incident took place first? The I.C.U declaring war on Ethiopia or thousands of Ethiopian troops crossing the border first? You can watch this video here about the role of the U.S invasion in Somalia. Channel 4 obtained the minutes to this meeting. Rear Admiral General Hunt is quoted as saying: "If there were a radical UIC takeover, the U.S would not allow it". "In the intervention of a rapid Ethiopian invasion, the Americans would rally with Ethiopia.The officials concluded " any Ethiopian invasion would have Washington's blessing. As the video shows the decision was taken by Americans in 2006 June. Somalis in the Ocaden region wintnessed thousands of Ethiopians cross the border as soon the warlords were defeated. At this time who was attacking the T.F.G? This had nothing to do with the Abdullahi Yusuf or the T.F.G. The Islamic Courts recognised the T.F.G and they never attacked without the presence of Ethiopian troops and warlords. In fact, when the I.C.U defeated the warlords the T.F.G officials welcomed it. However, a couple of weeks later all the warlords came to Badioa and they were accompanied by Ethiopian soldiers. Thus Abdullahi Yusuf broke his promise and the I.C.U had a 100% Islamic right to defend themselves against the Ethiopians and warlords who were planning to attack them. The T.F.G even came to Khartoum and tried to lie about the presence of Ethiopians troops in Somalia. Later on, the Ethiopians made the demand that the I.C.U obey th T.F.G and accept the presence of Ethiopians troops. The I.C.U accepted to obey and negotiate with the T.F.G, but never while there are foriegn troops preparing to attack them. Obeying your ruler is one thing, but obeying invaders and the Anti terror alliance warlords who were hunting down Sheikhs is Islamically prohibited. How can one obey what goes against Allah swt?

quote:Ninkaan somali diiliin, ma xuuku mi karo." Are you sure that this wasn't Meles Zenawi practising his Somali?

GJ, he implied symbolically Xerta or Timawayn as those whose faith is clean from tricks and the art of deception. He said, GJ, Abdilahi Yusuf is hostile to these militant(Seef La Bood in Somali) group whose aim is to install a theocratic regime in Somalia. Prof. Said captures a glimpse of Yusuf's engagement with these guys. Al Islah is now a millitant group?Saxiib, he said religous men who call control "everything". He wants to take " wealth" out of their hands. What he said in that speech is there for everyone to see. But I get to seee you are a man who is unwilling to make one criticism of this man. In fact, you probably think this is a good speech. How the W.F.P giving food to Mosques is alikined to giving food to insurgents is beyond and Timaweyn are free from deception? Who do we know that?Lastly, not all Somalis are Xeer! quote:Almighty who indifferently looked the other way as the self-styled holy men were systematically obliterated. Istaqfurallah!

Asian MI5 and MI6 officers speak British Asian intelligence and security officers have spoken to the BBC about their work in a bid to broaden recruitment among ethnic minorities. Two MI5 agents were permitted to talk for the first time in the hope of attracting more ethnic minorities into the security service. They told Asian Network their job was to protect the UK, not target Muslims. Meanwhile, a Muslim officer of the security service MI6 has told Radio 1 about her work recruiting spies. MI5 - Britain's domestic security service - says it hopes the insight into life as a British Asian agent will help increase its percentage of black and minority ethnic staff, which currently stands at 6.5%. It also wants to improve relations with Muslim communities. It has a target of increasing its current 3,000 staff to 4,000 by 2011 to help track the 2,000 individuals currently believed to pose a threat to national security. Family reaction A male agent, who called himself Shazad, and a female agent, Jayshree, talked about life inside MI5. In the exclusive interviews - the first recorded at MI5's London headquarters in the organisation's 98-year history - the officers discussed the challenges of leading double lives. "When out with friends or relations I tend to be quite vague about my work - I don't want the unnecessary attention," said Jayshree, who analyses intelligence from a variety of sources, including overseas. She added that her parents knew about her role, but were "not as excited or interested" as she thought they would be. "To the point that once my father said 'What's there to get excited about? You work for MFI', and I had to remind him that I don't work for a furniture store, I work for the security services." They said they did not feel any conflict as British Asians in their security roles because their work at MI5 was not about targeting communities, but instead about tracking individuals. Shazad said: "If you look at the bigger picture, I think you realise this isn't about spying on your own community, or letting your own community down, or any of those things. "It is about protecting people like yourself - others out there - from threats, and there can be a number of different kinds of threats." 'Totally compatible' The BBC's security correspondent Gordon Corera said the recruitment drive was not just about political correctness. He said MI5, in particular, needed to be representative in order to run operations successfully. Officers had to be able to blend into the communities in which they operated and have the right cultural and social backgrounds to identify where threats were coming from, our correspondent said. But Yasmin, who is a member of overseas intelligence agency MI6, told BBC Radio 1's Newsbeat she did not think she was recruited because of her Muslim faith. And she said she would challenge "very strongly" any suggestion that her religion complicated her work. "The way I feel is that my duty to God is totally compatible with my duty to my country," Yasmin said. "I would say extremism in any form is wrong, be that Islamic extremism or any other kind of extremism. "I feel very, very strongly that if you are able to do something to make a difference, you should make that difference." The head of MI6 recruitment, Mark, said the organisation wanted to attract people from all ethnic minorities, not just Muslims. "We want to be truly representative and reflective, but clearly if we are going to be reflective we do need to have Muslims in our organisation because of the insight and understanding that they bring," he said. 'Absolute shock' The MI5 agents recalled how they felt after hearing about the 7 July terror attacks in 2005. Jayshree said she felt "absolute shock" but had been trained to deal with such an event. "The reality was that this was probably one of the biggest jobs that any of my colleagues and I ever had to undertake. "We'd received the training and we just got ahead and tried to do as much work as we could." Unlike the public, she was in a position where she could "make a difference" and "find out what had happened and piece things together". Asked what motivated her to first become an MI5 agent, Jayshree said she felt she was repaying a debt to her country. "Once I joined I felt that the work we were doing was invaluable - and this is a country that has welcomed my family. "I've been born, raised here - this is my country. I just want to work as hard as I can to ensure that it's safe for my, I'd like to say community, but by that I mean my whole country." She added that she couldn't think of "any better way of paying back or working to protect everyone who lives here". Shazad agreed that he joined MI5 to help the country his family had chosen to make home. "It was one of the driving points behind why I joined. It was an opportunity to work for an organisation whose input really did matter and an opportunity to work somewhere where you could make a real difference." But when asked if life inside MI5 was anything like BBC drama Spooks, Jayshree said: "I think, particularly being a female in the service, I'd always be worried that a baddie would want to chuck my head in a deep fat fryer - so I'm particularly grateful that our work doesn't represent Spooks." The MI5 interviews will be broadcast on BBC Asian Network from 0600 GMT on Monday, 26 November. The MI6 interview is part of a week-long series of special Newsbeat reports on the British security services. They will be broadcast at 1745 GMT from Monday 26 November.

lolllllll at this thread and suggestion....

quote:The Sudanese clerics said this was blasphemy and believed it was intentional. "What has happened was not haphazard or carried out of ignorance, but rather a calculated action and another ring in the circles of plotting against Islam :eek: ," the Sudanese Assembly of the Ulemas said the statement. "It is part of the campaign of the so-called war against terrorism :eek: and the intense media campaign against Islam ," they said. Although an earlier report had suggested that only one parent had complained, the clergy statement Wednesday said that several had complained. There were widespread calls in Britain for Gibbons' release. The Muslim Council of Britain urged the Sudanese government to intervene. And a bit of common sense from a non Muslim: quote:that when children choose a name for something they have affection for (e.g. a toy, a live pet) it is not uncommon for them to choose a name they, likewise, have affection for. Favoured pet/toy, favoured name go hand in hand. Therefore, it is 'possible that they chose Muhammad because it is the name of someone they love and respect (i.e. their prophet) and they wanted their beloved toy to have the same name. Therefore, it was not through 'disrespect' they called the bear that but, on the contrary, out of respect and love. It is not so much as likening the Prophet Muhammad to a teddy bear, but of likening the bear to an object of their love and affection.

It's in the link, ibn yorkshiraw!

Teacher charged over teddy row http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7117430.stm Teddygate is getting more heated.......

http://www.garoweonline.com/artman2/publish/Opinion_20/Discovering_the_mind_of_Somali_dictator_through_his_own_words.shtml

oh yeah....

What's Muse Dheri?

I thought it was Sheikh Shariff?....

The Muqdisho old men got promised 50 dollars each for attending....but I think some of them didn't recieve it...........

Kalab(formerly known as Zafir): Woof, Woof, Woof(What da heck just happened?) (looks at himself in the mirror) Kalab: Wooooooooooooooooooooooooof(Noooooooooooooooooooo) (starts whimpering) Kalab: Howwwwwwwwwl, Howwwwwwl. Wooooof(People use to call me dog-face before, but now look at me.) this probably one of the most(and wrong)funniest things i've ever read on this forum...sorry Zafir...am still laughting at this....ha

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7116333.stm

Talking of Masajid and knocking out; here is a little story; A man enters a U.K mosque to pray and there is another man standing infront of him. So he asks him " can you move forward please". The man standing infront replies " why don't you move back". The men get into a heated debate inside the Masjid and tempers boil. One of the men challenges the other " lets take it outside". The other man replies "let me pray my sunnah first" .

quote:Repeat that line at your nearest Masjid, and I promise you, you'll be gathering your teeth off the ground in no time.

I wonder if Adan Ceyrow agrees with this? probably not

I think Arsenal had a few problems adjusting to the slightly milder weather in Spain against Sevilla.....

Is that an ice cream?

Yeah, I remember wen I was ciyaal many Somalis supported liverpool during the days of fowler....laakin they all emigrated wen Wenger brought overmars, bergkamp and co...I doubt many Somalis supported Arsenal during the era of the English lads..... Thierry, coventry? I am glad you have come to your senses...i remember one of my friends supported Q.P.R.....remeber wen they were in PL? @Northerner, Maybe you started suppporting liverpool when you received your first ever football shirt hadiyad? I could imagine one of your female relatives takin you to the markets and saying " waar shadhkan cas baa qurux badan,dhaxanta wuu celinaya iyo waa raqiis Ngone, u left out Ginola...what a legend...I remember that funny bloke Collymore scored once a or twice in those 4-3 matches....

They should start arresting Muslims that call themselves MO...

Again you are trying to deflect the issue and talk about personal characters.If you have any evidence that it is not legitimate to resist against the invaders according to our deen soo tuur. Hadi Kale.....