FB, but is it not understandable that someone who is very bitter would find pleasure in the pain of those he regards as his opponents? He's saying that Duke and others still feel bitter about the events of the early 90s and (for that reason) he understands why. I don't think understanding equals acceptance at this point. Push him a little further though, you may yet reveal it is so (not that I'm implying anything here).

^^ Don't be silly now. Explain yourself. How could they feel the heat (meaning they want out?) and at the same time have long-term plans for Somalia? If the AU troops arrive as planned wouldn't that release Abdullahi Yusuf from being obliged to and under the influence of Ethiopia? Hmmmmmm...GOT IT! The filthy Amxaar must be up to no good there.

^^ I'd make a Baashi related Nintendo joke at this point but I somehow know it will offend you. Still, I'll play it safe and declare that your anger with Baashi's words is indeed understandable.

Heh@Baashi! You walked into that one. Look, it’s very very simple. There is the TFG on one side and then there is the Resistance. Tribes, clans, sides, opportunists, fake-mullahs, good-mullahs, looters, killers, innocent people, murderers or liars don’t count here. There are only TWO sides. The fight is to the DEATH (mostly of women, children, old men and animals). It’s a war and as such it is pointless to attempt to apply logic or rational to it (not unless it’s used for propaganda purposes). Therefore, you have to dig deep into your inner soul and decide what side you’ll be on. Will your strong sense of self-preservation compel you to tag along behind an Ethiopian tank (whilst running the trifling hazard of stepping on a roadside bomb)! Could you be dreaming of fighting me for that ambassadorship of Peru? Could you see yourself chanting the words "dear Amxara welcome welcome, UIC folks are yalam yalam”? Or maybe, after some thought and contemplation you may decide that the Resistance boys are your ciyaal xaafad! Can you see yourself crouching in street corners with your weapon on your shoulder and dreams of liberty in your heart? Could you see yourself as the hero of the hour? The champion of your clan, ideology, chosen side and land? Could you resist the exclusive Somali compulsion to kill all Amxara in sight? Can you picture yourself chanting "to die, to live, to die or live; I must slay me a dhabo-dhalif”? Keep your justifications, understanding and logical deductions to yourself, matey. All you have to do is make a simple choice.

^^^ You're the only person I've ever met online that has a virtual lisp! Bokero, To be fair to Sheekhajaceelka, he does not live abroad. That mad man still lives in Somali(land)a!

That's just an unlucky case. I am sure the Dubai Courts will do the necessary. Can’t really say the same for the Saudi Courts.

^^^ Here is a Saudi source Rape Victim’s Lawyer Refuses to Give In Ebtihal Mubarak, Arab News JEDDAH, 19 November 2007 — The lawyer representing a Saudi rape victim in Qatif has criticized the second ruling issued by the Kingdom’s Higher Court of Justice doubling the woman’s punishment to 200 lashes and six months in jail, saying that the ruling “sums up the major problems that the Saudi judiciary faces.” Abdul Rahman Al-Lahem, 36, also criticized the General Court in Qatif for confiscating his license to practice law. On Wednesday the Qatif General Court announced the Higher Court of Justice’s verdict. Al-Lahem had previously asked the Ministry of Justice and the Human Rights Commission to review the first ruling issued by the General Court in Qatif, which had ordered the rape victim be given 90 lashes. “Basic Islamic law states that an appeal shall not harm the person appealing,” said Al-Lahem, adding that lodging an appeal is the right of anyone accused of a crime and something crucial for a just trial. “Once this rule is ignored, then people who appeal verdicts are only left terrorized. From now on people will be apprehensive to appeal fearing they might be punished or have their sentences doubled. That’s exactly what’s happened to the rape victim, who only wanted justice,” he said. The lawyer said that the Higher Court claimed that the woman being with a non-related male in the first place was the reason behind her rape. According to Saudi law, non-related men and women are not permitted to meet in private, a concept known as “khalwa.” “This does not make sense at all,” said the lawyer, referring to the Higher Court ruling. “The police investigation records clearly state that the girl was with a non-related male friend in a public place when they were both abducted and later raped. This no doubt clears the girl from accusations that she was in khalwa,” he said. The victim had met her friend to receive some photos of her that he had taken from a relationship with her when she was 16. She contends that the man had initially threatened to distribute the pictures to shame her. “The picture was even given to the police after that. We were hoping that the Higher Court would take all that into consideration when issuing its verdict, but unfortunately none of that happened,” said Al-Lahem. Speaking about the revocation of his law license, Al-Lahem said that when he entered the General Court in Qatif he was asked to leave by Judge Saad Al-Mohanna, who said, “Get it back (the license) from the Ministry of Justice in Riyadh.” He also added that Al-Lahem was “arguing with falsity.” “I did not say anything at all. All that I said was Assalamu alaykum and that’s it. I have human rights activist Fawziya Al-Oyoni, the girl and her husband as my witnesses,” said Al-Lahem. Incidentally, Al-Oyoni was also asked to leave the courtroom. “The Saudi judicial system states clearly that such cases have to take place in public. That only shows that the judges underestimate the Kingdom’s legislation, which is in place to protect the rights of citizens,” he said. Al-Lahem said that he has never disobeyed court orders. He recalled that last Ramadan when the Qatif General Court received from the Higher Court of Justice the second verdict, Judge Al-Mohanna insisted the girl be present to hear the verdict herself, in spite of the presence of the girl’s seven attackers. “I told Sheikh Saad Al-Mohanna that according to Saudi legislation lawyers have the right to represent their clients even if they are absent unless the case involves a major crime like murder. It’s obvious that this is not the case here. I told him I would never allow my client to attend any hearing while her rapists are there,” he said. “She is a rape victim, she is still suffering. That’s totally inhumane. Plus the hearing was not to take more testimonies but was only meant to announce the new verdict,” said Al-Lahem, adding that the judge said that the legislation does not apply here and postponed the hearing. Al-Lahem said denying him his right to practice law at this sensitive time is a denial of his client from the right of having a defense. “Asking me to appear in front of a disciplinary committee at the Ministry of Justice on Dec. 5 is a punishment for taking human rights cases against some institutions that over time have gained some sort of immunity from questioning,” said Al-Lahem, referring to a recent case lodged by him, on behalf of a Saudi woman, against the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice. He added that the law is clear that lawyers are not to be stopped from practicing without first being handed an official warning. “None of that happened,” he said. “I’m still hopeful in Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Abdullah’s reforms that are taking place right now. We have to hope for a better future,” he said, adding that he is determined to submit a list of objections to the Cassation Court. Qatif General Court declined to comment and said protocol demands that all press queries are handled by the Ministry of Justice in Riyadh, which is closed until Monday like all government offices due to the OPEC summit. Arabnews.com

^^ You're 'un-hated' but watch your step, young lady.

^^ There you go taking it all too seriously and dignifying this nonsense of a thread with a proper reply! ** Considers adding Lily to his hate list **

^^ NEVER

What a simplistic way to start a discussion! I've just realised that I don't like this Nomad. Pffft! The list of Nomads I dislike is getting bigger and bigger.

Originally posted by xiinfaniin: Anigu gabdhaha waa la taliyaa. Wax fiican baan u sheega. Ma shukaansado, alley ka ahay taa iskuma dayyo! Mar-mar ka qaarkood taan u bogo, nin fiican oo aan aqaan baa ku taabtaa, waana iskugu duceeyyaa in ilaahay isku anfaco! Intaas yaa wax ka qaba? Exactly my policy too.

This is old news. They issued a new one now.

Somaliland is the only one that openly seeks secession. However, if Somaliland is finally recognised internationally do you think all these entities will sit back and still claim to be part of Somalia? The borders are all probably just random.

Originally posted by Northerner: ^^you finally admitted it Good stuff two-nuts I always have. But that does not mean my written and spoken Somali is not better than yours and Ghanima's. LX, don't be too paranoid, man. It was written in good faith.

Heh. North, you started by saying no news sources reported the problem and ended up providing two sources to prove your point! Pakistan is important at this moment in time because Pakistan has the BOMB! Hamas and Fattah are important because they allow the Israel supporters in the media to point the finger and argue that the Palestinians are savages. Somalia on the other hand, and despite what the report says, did not experience any new development lately. After all, how does this recent fighting differ from the fights that took place in the last twelve months? It is sad of course and one wishes that it would never take place but what you're asking for is absurd. I'd go as far as arguing that even if AY was shot tomorrow this will not dominate the news in the same way that Pakistan does. Somalia is indeed a problem but in the list of global problems it is merely a footnote.

^^ Is she married now? I must send her a PM congratulating the lucky fellow Ps She's probably still on her honey year. Give it time. When they start fighting over the remote control is when Newly weds start seeking emotional affairs. "he wouldn't let me watch Eastenders!"

^^ Admittedly I don't but I can still recognise rosy traces every now and then.

If this is true it practically makes me a harlot!

^^ I received many complaints (mainly from Serenity) and was forced to increase the entry age to 25. Cara perfectly fits the bill. Ps Entrants under 5'7 are automatically disqualified.

When sentiment is expressed in such vivid fashion one can't help but admire and applaud it. So this is what it means to be Somali? A very attractive proposition I must admit. Ps To be truthful with you, once you 'virtually' exposed your testecials, I personally didn't think there were any other hidden depths to you. Glad to see there is elegance to offset the vulgarity (even if you reveal later that you were merely translating the poem).

You know something (and this is only slightly related to your discussion above), I never asked how old Cara was! School boy error that. Val, I see the people in your new place liked you so much they're now paying you to stay at home! Priceless

This is how the original fixture was, saaxib. Not my fault that they changed it.

^^^ Saturday, 15 December Liverpool v Man Utd, 15:00 Saturday, 22 March Man Utd v Liverpool, 15:00

dheyaarada Daalo ka hadha..dhayaarada Daalo carab ba leh...Daalo waa dheyaarad blah blah..