^^ Tuuganimo maxa keenay dee? Didn't you just say this is not about caydh?

^^ Wan is fahmi waynay, Juxaay. There are different groups of poeple that this applies to here: Group one: Kuwa is qariya for financial gains - this group has nothing to win by following your idea of marraige (although it is best for them to come clean). Group two: Kuwa is sheegay but don't earn enough to win all the extra benefits that legally declaring their marriage would entail. Group three is obviously the one that is loaded enough to worry about the name of the person on the deeds of the house, the inheritance, the pensions and the like. Your thread seems to only apply to the third group and not the first two. Worse still, since the divorce proceedings are so complicated and costly (yes, two grand is a lot of money) it is not likely to appeal to group two at all. The dignity of Somali women is only exposed in Group One (kuwa is qariya). Group Two & Three can proudly claim to be married yet produce no "legal" British documents nor does that matter to them much, since they are married in the eyes of god and those of their faith. So, again, where is the carrot for the majority of Somalis today? p.s. Your job is rubbing off on you was meant that you are looking at it from a legal point of view and I am just trying to cut costs. Wax fahan.

^^ Yes but the civil cermony is not touted here as an alternative to the Hilton wedding, it's an addition ayeeyo. My point is that Juxa is trying to sell caviar in the dadaab refugee camp dee. Why would it be better for a Muslimt o be married in the eyes of the law, ayeeyo? What difference does it make in this day and age? "We are together and we follow our own Islamic way of marraige" should suffice. Of course, for me and you, Juxa's ideas make perfect sense (since both partners work and are trying to be..err..upwardly mobile). But, we are talking about the vast majority of Somalis. I am being practical here (and maybe, like Juxa, my job is rubbing off on me), I don't think it's financially sound to waste money on something that does not offer any useful returns.

Blessed, Norf, Val & Juxa are all talking hypothetical claptrap. Lets get real, people. In practice, what Juxa is advocating is never going to work when people have the option of claiming that they are "living together". The point of a "legal" marriage is redundant here. Juxa's ideas would work perfectly in an ideal world. However, if you're already unemployed or have a low paid job, I see no benefits in getting legally married (note that this is different to getting Islamically married). For example, Juxa there tells you that a divorce will cost less than two thousand pounds (and she actually throws the figure with very careless disregard, the loaded so and so ). Now, why would someone who could barely afford their rent go through the root of paying for a Civil Cermoney, face the possibility of paying for a divorce (in addition to whatever else they need to pay Islamically) and have to incur whatever other expenses a legal marraige may entail just so he/she can brandish a certificate that says they are married to so and so? It makes no practical or financial sense (not unless you're already well off). Where is the carrot here? Of course, I can understand the need for such a legal marriage in a society where such a thing is required by law (Muslim countries, etc). But, here in the UK where (for the most part) co-habitation or having a partner has more or less the same rights as someone who is legally married, I really can't see why someone on benefits ro with a low paid job would bother going through the trouble and expense of such a thing. It makes no sense, no sense at all. Juxa, dadka is sheega ku dheh lakin khasaaraha badan ka daa.

Good. Now we can point and laugh.

^^ dee kugoman xanaaqin, adiga iska qarxay. I still don't get what the benefits to someone unemployed are (if the conditions for divorce are that prohibitive and, probably, expensive too). What I am saying is, if you are on benefits and you have the choice of declaring someone as being your "partner" rather than spouse, why would you do the latter? What you get from it is all hypothetical (like dying mothers, compensation,etc) whilst what you lose (considering that the divorce rates amongst Somalis are high) isn't that practical. Worse still, that one year limit before being granted a divorce is a tad scary for most newly-weds. p.s. But I agree that the lies should stop, I just don't think you're selling it that well. By the way, you should become a family lawyer, this promises to be worth a lot of dosh.

^^ Juxa, you're getting your wires crossed dee. Are you talking about couples that own houses and have a finanical stake in the marrige or those who may be unemployed, on benefits, etc? How is such a marraige beneficial for someone on benefits and who pays for all the lawyer court fees? It sounds like a needless nightmare for such a couple to even walk near a civil cermoney.

Sounds very complicated and needless really (unless there is a part that I'm not getting of course). Why would you make your marraige "legal" when you can just as easily delcare that you are "living together" or co-habiting, etc? (carry on anyway).

AYOUB;741299 wrote: ^ Hosbital baas baan udhiibay and the blind man took it. I plan to haunt him more than 2 seasons ago, IA.:cool: Haunt away, saaxib. Just don't go missing when I am (as always) proven right.

^^ I can post a picture that looks like Val but I really don't want to open that door (Ayeeyo will cut off my inheritance).

^^ She lives, she lives! Are you still in Africa?

^^ Both those two were also very close.

To be fair to A&T he is a mix of Ghandi and this guy (the bald one in the middle): p.s. Norf, Juxa is not that kind of lawyer, don't waste your time warya. And, anyway, I did my best to get the nearest pictures to the way you all look (I'm actually very impressed with my choice for JB..waaba isagii).

AYOUB;740848 wrote: ^ waxaa iskadaayo, what position are Liverpool, Stoke and Sunderland going to finish this season, in your 4x opinion. LFC: Top Stoke: Tenth (the Europa league will be a distraction for them). Sunderland: Seventh (They bought lots of decent players whilst Villa & Everton did not).

^^ Murphy was good. United hated him.

Juxa, anigo khaatyaan kaa jooga ayaad Nina ii keentay! I did not understand much of what she wrote above.

^^ It was an angry SOLER who felt that I did not do him any favours with the earlier images that I posted. He sent me this one and told me that I had six hours to correct my mistake or I may face the consequences blah blah. Dee here he is...bal garta..

Xaaji Hunguri is here: Ustaad Paragon waakan (just add a beard and take a few inches from the height ): Theiry waakan:

N.O.R.F;741053 wrote: I hope people don't actually believe Ngonge's images represent look a likes of the nomads he mentioned (his own and JB's excluded ). Casiir waaxid Those who saw you will agree with the image I posted. Those who saw JB (even on FB) will agree with the image I posted and those who saw Sayid Somali will also agree with the image I posted. As for A&T, since I'm one of very few people who saw what he looks like, you'll all just have to trust me on the Ghandi resemblence. p.s. I think Admin should give us our Eid gift early this year. Shame it's the wrong Eid though.

And they claim to be football fans. Bah!

^^ Apart from you and Xiin, I actually know what the others look like and was trying to help you out there (yes, they all look like the pictures I posted above, even me). Here is LST (or as close as my memory can get to these days):

Our internal sources have not reported any such news.

Khadar, is this you? This is most certainly Sayid Somal (hada ciyaar maaha):