If I said salaam, will you say it back?

^^ :D

Watch all the Chelsea fans going missing now

^^ Unlikely of course. But with new players there will have to be a new AUUN Road Map. It will all depend on what comes out of the dust after the defeat of the outsiders that defeat Al Shabab. It all happens in steps and the more steps, the more change the more chance of people finally getting tired of it all and doing something about it. Keeping things as they are will only be like having warlords for fifteen years before the Courts came and changed the name of the game. I simply want things to change faster this time. Let them all have a go ninyaho.

If you want SOL recognition, have A&T dedicate a thread to you. It worked when he did it for Koora. It brought the name Hunguri alive. It turned Xiin into a great SOL caaqil, it flushed sheikh Maaddy out of obsecurity, it made Ibti a "senior" nomad and it turned geeky old me into a desirable ladies man. Boringlicious has a bright future methinks.

Che, but you're not saying that you don't know. You make it clear that you disagree with outsiders no matter what the reason. We are slightly more flexiable than you and believe that anything that defeats Al Shabab is good. For my part, I also supported AY all those years ago and believed he was going to turn the fight in Somalia into one of only two sides. Shame the rascal Sharif threw a spanner in the works.

Zack, Che's position is clear warya. Like Richard Pryor in Brewster's Millions, he's telling us to vote for "NONE OF THE ABOVE". Wax fahan.

^^ But AS do not share your Somalnimo ideas, saaxib. Theirs is a perverted idea of Islam that does not at all include Somalnimo nor even pay it lip service.

^^ You want a sleeping tablet that gives you an upset stomach? It's called Niteall (look for the herbal green package). Heh.

Che -Guevara;759827 wrote: looooooooooool...another one for the record. That said, your logic was amazing..invite the enemies to destroy local movement and wait for true liberation movement to kick out the enemy. If you put your hands in water won't they get wet, saaxib? If you put them in fire, won't they burn? If you fight Somalis won't they fight back? My logic is solid, saaxib. I might not expect common sense from Somalis, I might not see Somalnimo but the one thing I'm always sure of is opposition and fighting. If Al Shabab are defeated the Somalis are sure to turn on each other. However, because there will be "outsiders" in Somalia, I'm certain that Somalis Burco to Beldweyn will condemn, raise funds and unite against the outsiders. Unless, of course, a group as powerful as Al Shabab emerges and occupies their time (which, today, is very unlikely). Edit: Zack, I am helping you formulate your future position, saaxib. Maxaad la cadhootay dee? lol

Jacpher;759805 wrote: ^No a good question is why does it not matter? Because every new day, they'll sing a new tune! (I'll get my coat).

Zack, I am with you today but when the Ethiopians come back I fear I will not be able to back you up. Well, not unless you support their invasion as long as they defeat Al Shabab. Or, which is slightly ugly but is a way out, you declare your support for Azania as an openly clannish reason.

^^ Mid "herbal" ayaan iibsaday maalin hore, caluusha i socotay saaxib. No more sleeping tablets.

^^ Yes. And, for the record, I have never called Duke a traitor. I still think that if we let everyone come (even Ethiopians) and trounce Al Shabab, a liberation movement unconnected to the Shababi madness shall be born. It's the natural progression. Therefore, I welcome all comers.

^^ No hookah is smoking too. I quit all forms of smoking and it's ok apart from the lack of sleep. Jacphur, I'm a couple of steps away from a mid life crisis, adeer. It's bang in the middle of Insomnia-land.

^^ Just to be clear warya. I defended A&T's mention of Aaliyah only as an explanation not to indicate agreement. You're a prefectionist but not a soft one (bloody former shabab waaxid).

I'm with A-Khadar in this. Why did this man go all the way to LA when the centre of the capital is not fixed? Or are they waiting for Norf to give them a quote again? Heh.

^^ If I were chewing ma boringlicious baan ka sheekeen laha, saaxib?

^^ I quit smoking about a month ago and ever since I have not been able to sleep. It's like being caught betwee Xiin & A&T, damnd either way.

Che -Guevara;759792 wrote: Xaasid amxaar Amxaar? War it was Kenyans I was cheering for dee. The Amxaar didn't invade and, should they do so, I'll make my choice depending on the situation.

^^ Not you dee (nor me, of course). Him. Him.

xiinfaniin;759695 wrote: First off, good Abtigis, repeating NGOGNE's weak, defensive utterances wont make you stronger man . I demand originality from you. The truth of the matter is foreign troops are pouring into Somali territories and you've become cheerleader in chief. Personal attacks against Xiin abound when mustering credible arguments fail. If you truly think Ethiopian and Kenyan invasions are 'reasonable and practical approaches', you are unwittingly pinning your hopes on a demonstrably failed approach. It failed yesterday...I for one do not think repeating it will make it succeed. It makes sense not to reinvent the wheel, xaaji. Stuff originality nooh. I am with A&T in this and thus I shall remain until you come up with a better argument for your opposition. p.s. VAL..I too gave A&T a hard stare and hoped it would sting. Yet I'm sure he, in his own fumbling way, meant it as a compliemnt (soft hearted girls are cute, men not so much).

^^^ If he was an atheist, he's unlikely to believe in psychic mediums warya.

xiinfaniin;758965 wrote: ^^AMISOM is not a sovereign country that have a national interest in Somalia . Kenya is. The difference. Quite elementary isn't it? Maxaad ku doodaysaa, midda kale yaa yiri outside help is not needed. I told you, taadu waa iska cheer leading exercise ee guriga iska aad awoowe EDIT: waan illaawey , ee iga qabo. Markaan lahaa dadka cuqdada Soomaliya ka qaba si saxa uma doodi karaan, waxaan oo kalaan sheegayey When they get rid of Farmaajo, you argue it's all about interest but when Kenya invades they suddenly have no natural interest in Somalia? War anigu hadal cad baan kuu sheegay. I do not live in dreamland, saaxib. I go with what's practical and pragmatic and try to make the most of a situation. Today, the situation is that Kenya has invaded parts of Somalia. The question is: is it a good thing or a bad thing? Well, at first glance, it is indeed a bad thing. These are outsiders and this is Somal soil. The second question is: can Somalia do anything about it? I suppose, like you, Somalis can complain and condemn (adcafuel imaan). The third question is: is there any benefits to Somalis from this invasion? In the short term, YES. Al Shabab can be defeated (or even weakned). Now it's a clear choice, either to go against the Kenyan (which is not likely to happen) or welcome the invasion (since one outsider is no differnet to another) and hope that Al Shabab can be destroyed. If you choose the second option (which I hope you will), rest assured that the madmen that managed to drive the American army out of Somalia are not likely to struggle with a bunch of novice Kenyans. However, as events and exprience have shown, EVERYBODY will find it very hard to get rid of Al Shabab without proper outside help. Finally, also know that no regional adminstration can be set up by force (as all those falling out with Imam & SL have shown). Therefore, should AZANIA see the light it will not only be because its using Kenyan might. If anything should prove this to you it's the three way struggle we have here between you, Zack and Gabbal. Bal wax sheeg adeer.

The Hindus have a tradition, it's called Sati. That's all I'm saying.