Hey Puntlanders, what the hell does the guy in the shades below, have in his hands?

Saqajaanyahow, don't turn this thread into a CADE bashing nac-nac! President Cade, for better or worse is our President...and when his term is up...the citizens of Puntland will deal with him. So butt out of affairs that aint non of your business saaxiib.

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War ninyahow Duke, ninkaan Che ma gabar baad ka qabtaa aadan yarad kabixin...mar walba maxuu kaaga daba nacnacleeyaa?

Che -Guevara, At first I was surprised why every member of the "Tolka" was needed to contribute... Originally posted by Che -Guevara: A guy called my adeer the other day.... need to fork over atleast 2000 dollars... The man goes to say that we need to contact every member of the Tolka ... but now, I know why... Originally posted by Che -Guevara: It just so happens the man that get killed belongs to Duke's "people" but don't tell him that he already thinks my objection to Yeey stems from my 'hatred' for his "people". Woe to Che-N-Family ...killing one of Duke's people will cost an arm and a leg You better get yourself a second job and pay off this blood money, ama odayaashi gobta ahaa ayaa kula kici doona. Che, your audacity is astonishing to say the least!Ku lahaa lacag ma dhiibayo... Ma waxaad rabtaa mucaaradnimo iyo indha adeeg inaad isku darsatid ninyahow. Adiga iyo duke wixii dagaal ah oo ni dhexmaro adaa masuul ka ah saaxiib Che-Guevara General Duke

SOMALI CULTURE AND POLITICS ARE ORGANIZED around the country's seven clans, each of which traces its heritage to a different ancestor. These clans are then divisible into subclans, smaller family groups called lineages, and diyah groups. Xeer justice generally revolves around these latter groups, which can number anywhere from a few hundred to a few thousand people and are formed when there are enough men of sufficient wealth in a lineage to constitute their own group—a process called, literally, "counting testicles." Each member is responsible for the crimes committed by anyone else from his diyah group. If someone in a group commits an offense, the whole group must pool its resources and contribute toward a payment (camels, other livestock, or money) to the victim's diyah group, with elders setting the amount of compensation using xeer. Source Saaxiib Che, Ninkii maanta qaaraanka diida, tomorrow dib markee hesho ayaa lagaaga bixi doona ee...marka saaxiib pay the small amount of dollars oo lagu weydiistay. "Abandoning tradition calls forth God's wrath."

Originally posted by LIQAYE: What is the position of any of the candidates on the eding of human trafficking from puntlands ports? Ina-Adeer LIQAYE, Whats wrong with people being "aided" to re-unite, albeit for a fee, with loved ones on the other side of the sea? Funny, how you give this issue a negative Connotation by calling it "human trafficking". Puntland officials should butt out of such matters and desist from placing restrictions on the freedom of movement for people seeking to escape poverty and war. This will only attract criminal elements to engage in people smuggling, forcing their clients to risk travelling illegally in precarious ships to reach the shores of Arabia on the other side. The Puntland administration should not cater to the racist prejudices nurtured by the Arab leaders in the middle east. My opposition to placing restrictions on immigration to the middle east is based on the recognition that immigration from the horn of Africa is a natural phenomenon produced by conflict, droughts and unemployment. Forcing escape out of misery of thousands, at risk of their own survival. Is this just? Certainly not. Those selfish arabs should learn to live with it, and stop exploiting individuals solely out of the so-called "illegal" status. Puntland also has better things to do with funds used to fight immigration. dhulQarnayn, Republic Of California.

Sunaari, nimanka ma macuun qalalan baa lagu soo dhaweeyey, miyaa? Bariiskii meeyey? Mise caraptaan kilyaha waaweenka leh ma lagu caateenayaa meesha?

Abaayo Sunaari, A "clean campaign" in Puntland is quite oxymoronic to say the least. Meeshaan, it's all about who can grease up the parliamentarians most lavishly. Parliamentarians, who're very capable of betraying their honor and duty to their people for a price. Marka odaygaan,Ilka-Jiir, haduuna wadan $Fuluus$ badan, yuuna wakhtiga na dhuminin. Waryaaya reer Puntland: waxaa fiicnaan leheed ina general-ka loo qaaraamo oo lacag loo aruuriyo. Its either that, or Mr Incompetence himself-Cade Muse- come election time, will buy these unprincipled monkeys in parliament, AGAIN. Sad as it may sound...It's very feasible for him to return.

Originally posted by unknown1: they have never issued fatwas, and the names you keep referring got fired long time ago. unknown1: you are conscientious, well-mannered, and WRONG .Now try again!

Originally posted by Abtigiis &Tolka: Dulqarneyn What is so intricate about Yey and his politics? Have you heard of the Vichy government in France during the WWII? Or more recently Hamid Karzai? But, indeed, when it comes Jilibkee xoog-badan politics, I know I won't be able to challenge you. You are an expert as exemplified by your apparent mistaking of Yey's vitriol against 'reerihii xamar bililiqaystay' as a political witticism! Is that what you call not taking shit from anyone? Adeer, by trying to paint a monster as a man of substance, you forfeited your legitimacy to get engaged with real debate. When you get out of your tribal nest, I will be more than willing to try to reason with you, even from apparent 'underdog' position you have condemned me to be. When you judge yourself to be the maestro singlehandedly,I feel it is quite showing. Feeling big often is the result of being small- actually. I reckon my bedside stories deserve better attention than a frivoulus glorification of a traitor. I would have also loved to see one story of yours. Never mind the bed, just somewhere! Abtigiis &Tolka, War ninyahow shaqala'aan kuhaysa badanaa! I must say though, that I, throughly enjoyed your artistically arranged alphabet soup excuse of a rebuttal.Tsk-tsk! But I must ask... was there a point in there SOMEwhere, ANYwhere?? Oh wait! what the hell am I saying? Forget I asked! orod oo general section-ka kasoo nacnaclee. dhulQarnayn, :cool: Republic Of California.

Originally posted by Sayid*Somal: This section of SOL has become synonymous with underhand clan warfare... "The man of knowledge must be able not only to love his enemies but also to hate his friends." Sayid*Somal,sheekada raqiiska ah jooji ninyahow. Pick a side and start slinging away some dirt at dhinacaad rabtid-- it's the only Somali thing to do in here bro! dhulQarnayn, :cool: Republic Of California.

^^^'hater'

Originally posted by J.a.c.a.y.l.b.a.r.o: why republic of California ??? Ooops! where are my manners? J.a.c.a.y.l.b.a.r.o, I meant to say... dhulQarnayn, Republic Of Somaliland in la-la land.

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Geel_Jire, I wrote..... Originally posted by dhulQarnayn: Geel_Jire, hate it or love it- Mr Yuusuf is the current interim President of Somalia, you on the other hand,sir,are an anonymous poster on a third-tier message board <--No offense SOL! you replied... Originally posted by Geel_jire: DQ whats with all the whining sxb ... you accuse me of posting anonymously behind a computer screen on a third rate forum ... pls explain what it is your doing that is so different besides the fact of cheering for the numero uno dab0dh1lif himself ? I am not accusing you of anything, so get of your high horse ; I was merely stating a simple matter-of-fact, that there's a wee bit of "prominence" difference between Cabdulahi Yusuf and mr Geel_jire...THATS ALL! This was never and can never be about you and I. dhulQarnayn, Republic Of California.

Originally posted by Al Jidaawi: There I was thinking DQ had a bit of common sense. Hes just another apologist! Maxaa kugu dhacay saxib? Saaxiib- I wish I was an apologist! that would shut up the delusional fools who think they poop xalwad and can do no wrong. dhulQarnayn, Republic Of California. p.s Al Jidaawi...horta ninyahow magacyo badnidaa?

Originally posted by jamaal7777: Dhulqarnayn But in all honesty saxiib do really think that this man is even worth considering as a president anymore. He is at least partly responsible for this mess and the many dead and displaced. Why do you think he is to be supported and not deposed and tried ? jamaal7777, The asnwers to your question..."Why do you think he is to be supported and not deposed and tried?", are as follows: Support him?... Because he lawfully holds the office of president.PERIOD! Depose him?... Only through a free and fair election.PERIOD! Face trail?... Only after he leaves office.PERIOD! Am sure he will be vindicated. jamaal7777, I have never said he was blameless. He has had many difficult situations to deal with from the get go. And Yes, he hasn't made choices I would have made- but then again, am not in his shoes and don't have Yassar-Arafat-head-gear-wearing-deviants for an opposition, do I?. To top that off; too many people here are too quick to undermine his authority solely out of clan animosity and squawk after him aimless- blinded by tribal hate. Nothing in the world can cure these people of cuqdada qabiilka ee qabaan! dhulQarnayn, Republic Of California.

Waryaaya...naga kala yareeya barwaaqadaan iyo nimcadaan aad soo sawirteen---dad badan oo uqdad iyo naceeb beerka ka dishay ayaa ka buuxa meeshaan....ma ishooda ayaad rabtaan inay nagu dhacdo! Ilaahay, baan ka magan galnay wixii 'hater' oo dhan ah! p.s where on earth are the people at? The cities look deserted...I noticed most of the businesses where closed when the pictures were taken.

^^^ Geel_Jire, what a useless rant of deviant gibberish. Cabdulahi Yuusuf, whether one happens to agree with him or not, managed to run for and win the office of president. Given the available choices back then, AY seemed to have had the least offensive track-record compared to the other warlords and offerered a 'somewhat' genuine opportunity for Somalia to return from the abyss. He has served as the chief architect of a plan that produced the only viable government we've had, since the collapse of the national government of Somalia: much to the surprise of just about everyone except Mr. Yuusuf. Geel_Jire, hate it or love it- Mr Yuusuf is the current interim President of Somalia, you on the other hand,sir,are an anonymous poster on a third-tier message board <--No offense SOL! Saaxiib, your incessant personal diatribes and lack of civility will not turn your OPINIONS into fact. Walahi,I don't know what is sadder- the amount of time you spend on here or the blindness to your own ignorance. The ignorance that makes you believe that antipathy is some sort of virtue :rolleyes: - ninyahow, orod oo shaqo yeelo! dhulQarnayn, :cool: Republic Of California. p.s Damn these haters! clearly General Duke isn't doing a great job. The TFG needs some more positive propaganda to offset the numerous public relations problems it faces from these enthusiastic deviant supporters .

Not worth commenting on...haters!

Originally posted by Ban-tured: Dulqarnayn Abdullahi is not ain defendable position. He crosed all bounderies of Somalinimo. He is remembered only destruction and treason. Qof foyow inuu sinama u taageri ma qabo. Ban-tured, Thanks for proving my point- those're infinately fascinating allegations. I actually enjoy being able to render you & your clique useless. I'm sure your co-hearts on here wish that you'd go back to the children's table where you belong. You do nothing to further their cause.

Originally posted by rudy-Diiriye: u think he will be standing w/o the xabashil...! think again. No, he stands and for that matter walks by the will of God Almighty....Next question, please!

Originally posted by Hassan6734: Xabashil will soon depose of him, they don't need him no more lol. News is that General Gabre has just returned to somalia, loooooooooooooooooool. After the slap this time AY will get i don't think that he will ever be able stand again. Hassan6734, I am trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, but hackneyed and often predictable remarks like the ones above make it very difficult for me to believe that you are really interested in having an honest discussion. If you truly seek a formal discourse on El Presidente Yuusuf, it would help if you stop making blanket statements that have no basis in fact. dhulQarnayn, Republic Of California.

I'm still unsure as to what the Russians' war aims are. They say it's to protect the ones they've given Russian citizenship in South Ossetia and Abchazia. On the other hand, the Russian government didn't really seem to care about the Russian citizenship of the Muslim Chechens in Grozny. It maybe that they want to achieve a sneaky annexation of those two provinces combined with a defeat of the Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili. Perhaps it's also to thwart Georgian prospective membership of NATO and EU. Which is, of course, linked to Western energy security interests. Getting those Central Asian energy resources to market bypassing Russian or Iranian influence is becoming really tricky for America. And I don't believe the US has the diplomatic clout anymore to rein in Moscow's ambitions. Putin has succeeded in making Russia, an assertive petrostate. I don't know what leverage the US can use now with its economy in the shitter and majority of its troops bogged down in Iraq and Afghanistan. Poor Georgians will be left to fend for themselves.