Scareface it sure appears you have no manners as well as no xishood, How can anyone clash with Cambarro of all people :rolleyes: iitaalka aadiga kuu help gaarans :rolleyes: There is a Swahili saying that translates to "the donkey thanks you by kicking you" or along those lines.

Loool. Did she divorce him? Personally I would not consider it, unless I was in a car crush or something and I was severally damaged beyond believe, (even then I think some scholars say it is haram, even though you are just returning to your old out look.) I think otherwise it is a lazy way out, and it takes too much energy and money, and you have to keep doing it, might as well hit the gym.

^^^loool^ did you already forget what the Public transport is like in London (it is still my best friend, but even so...)

^^^yeah right Lool, beauty never last anyway lool. Depends on where the birth marks are, i've seen some really bad ones.

i don't know if it can be removed, and i don't even know how big it was or anything, all i remember is her going on and on about it, looool, it was well funny, Emperor: A mole or melanocytic naevus is an abnormal collection of pigment cells present within the skin. kind of common in somali's Too pretty, :rollyes: i can kind of understand that one cambarro

^^^loooool^^ One of my old friends once refused a guy, although she said he was so perfect in every whay (or so she says) but had a mole on his nose, lets just say it was the end for them due to this looool, i laugh every time i remember this! lol. Scareface likes that movie so much and the scare that goes half way across his face as well Scare, I'm not a fish, thats the difference, bt i don't expect you to understand :rolleyes:

Can i have some tea please :rolleyes: Cambarro looool

^^^I could not agree more, there is no way you can reach the top (leading a country) without leaving some of your natural character and adapting the qualities of men (not as far as growing balls! )She would have to survive in that kind of setting. But there is nothing to say she cannot take part of the process. I've never advocated for women leaders (as in countries) but everything else is possible

^^Cambarro this may sound odd coming from me, but.. It would not make a difference if it was a women or a man that run the world, the process of getting their changes both so much, that their innate characteristic is barley there. By playing the game to reach the top, you get involved and will adapt whatever they rules of the game was, when you reach the top, you will also continue that trend and carry your supports through same way they carried you forward. This is not only in Politics or running the world, but even in gangs, organisations etc.

Fuming, is not the word, :rolleyes: I nearly toasted your farah A*ss for posting such trash :rolleyes: Friendly advise kuulaah, still you are at it! have some shame dude, siikuu ixshood :rolleyes: Issh no wonder i don't like somali so called "men" or any sort for that matter :rolleyes: Hungri :rolleyes:

^^^^loool ^^ both of your posts cracked me up! lool. loool

^^what makes you think they will not put on a face for a few years (or the few hrs you see them) then you get married then its too late for ya to make a runner, you can only limp fromt he scene a couple of years later!

lool, don't stress yourself on my behalf, i've met some heavy weights (not saying that your are not but....you know what i mean)

Nope^ that was not politics, that was just a friendly chat and discussion about few events. You poor thing! you weren't trying to see if it was possible to talk politics with a women were you?

Paragon: Look weak when you are strong, strong when you are weak', wasn't that some sort of Chinese saying? I think it might have been San Suz little catch phrases in the art of war. But I don’t think that was the case, they were not trying to look weak, they did not even appear as weak, they just lost that whole “we are endangered, surrounded by hostile Arab states, who want wipe us off the map” and the general sympathies vote. Nor did the media help them paint a grim picture of Israel, so that whole little lovely argument of yours does not tailor to this particular case, although I can think of other examples this was employed. I don’t doubt they have many things up their sleeves after all we did agree that winning is not only in the battle field! Anyway maanta waad iidaalsi! I think that’s the most I wrote since leaving uni! And you are wlc (applause) Lily i guess so

Equally bad to those who it concerns I guess, but some are "deemed" as more dispensable than others, which is sad, but.. On a side note Lily, your signature; why should God help them when they won’t help themselves? I always wonder about that, sometimes i choke on my duca's, do we have a right to ask for help when we have not tried ourself, and what qualifies as trying (sorry i just go around in circles sometimes) don't mind me.

Paragon: Lol I applauded your effort, I seriously do, but do you honestly believe that warfare is only fought on the battle field? You must be kidding me right? In any case, there are multiple factors and difference that are involved which I don’t have the energy to go into, just to mention a few, the Lebanese side is use to taking heavy human losses, while the Israel can not sustain any kind of loss, the balance of power usual allows them to avoid any loss, but even the threat of the possibility is enough to politically paralyze them or make them act irrational. Israel had aims and objectives to achieve and the missed it by miles, in the end, not only did they look like the aggressors, the perception of their military power was also trashed. In this system of international relations messing up your deterrence is probably the worse thing that can happen to you. As for creating diversion from the casualties ( other being impossible) and I assume you only know the casualties via some sort of media channel? Loosing is in the mind, if you think you are losing no point of you fighting, you already lost. And I agree it is a realist world to a certain extent, but some old and outdated info can get you lost in the dust, so don’t get left behind my dear p.s. it was the 6day war (now compare that to the last one and tell me there is a difference in lossing and lossing!

^^ That is not romantic, that is ultimate nacasnimo, or better still shaaqo laan everything has limits and so does romance :rolleyes: Everything and anything is waali me thinks, especially as love is a temporary and passing emotion, to hook everything and anything on that one person is suicidal. And Romance has nothing to do with a Love factor, people can be romantic (or participate in romantic actions) without necessarily being in Love (NB: i'm not advocating for anything haram befor ey'lll jump me) :rolleyes:

I think we’ll just have to agree to disagree in that case, I think you look at life in general and events in a black and white, and we simply don’ have that simplicity in life, too many contributors can only mean too many conclusions. I’ll leave you with this: Consider the Israeli attack again, would I be correct in stating that although they may have “won” militarily, they lost he media and propaganda war, which in this day and society is as important as military strength. If you look at the political scene of the Jewish society (especially here in the UK) before the war and currently, you will notice many heads rolled due to this loss, which caused them to pull out and unnecessary grieve. As I already said a winner can only be determined after the total destruction of one (beyond repair/ recovery), everything else is chasing shadows for a day lool @kitkat.

Paragon Yes it is true that men and women distinguish things differently and the priority in determining things take different roots, but the end results and comprehension of situations are not too far from each other, If I follow your line of thought I can go as far as saying that since I can “put myself in their shoes” I am in a better position to understand, but I wills top short of that claim. You are only out of depth of understanding them, if you believe so, yes I “might” be more advantaged or equipped to understand them initially, but of course where there is a way there is a will and inevitable you will understand them. Your saying is not exclusive to men in Somali tradition either, it is a form of news gathering rather than a decoding sentence as you claim. War is the most effective tool to achieve results, if by results you mean total destruction and change then yes I agree, the results do not necessarily mean success, and if there is no success what is this “effectivity” you speak of? Impact yes, effective no, otherwise we would not have been witnessing some of the current events. Again you are wrong to assume someone must win? Really? Yes in the old days when one army totally destroyed the other and took over their land, enslaved them and started a whole new social society and breed, you can argue that, but people no longer fight the frontal assaults, where there had to be a winner. Now it is hard to distinguish who won and who lost, especially seen as there are so many things outside of weapons that contribute to it. For example in the recent Lebanon V Israel, there was two winners, from different perspectives: would you not agree? and you saw the consequences that followed!

Paragon Making the assumption that my eyes see things womanly is undermining my ability to rationally look at something and make decision on it, It is like me saying that a man cannot grasp his kids emotions because he looks at them with a male eyes, or that guys are not able to maintain friendship with females because they look at relationship in one dimensional view, I’m sure you will agree that both of these views are retarded to some extent. Theoretically, practically and physically it can be called anything but moving in harmony! Because politics is not concerned with harmony, but rather in discord. Yes war and peace are a factory of life, and sometimes war is need to achieve peace, while other times it is suitable to have war at the expensive of peace, I’m not an idealist nor do I think perpetual peace is possible, but spinning the hold realist vision is not without major gaping holes either. Historians documents can barley be considered as capturing the beauty of anything, if anything the spoil and distort based on their narrow views and defining cultures. I agree that the events are not beautiful, but nor are the result of politics, as those events are the direct result of politics.

loool NGong Bangladesh I hope not, I've lived with them all my life, I spent many years hating them! Paragon, I think maybe you are being a bit too natured to assume people declare enemies because of honour, Ideological yes it is different, you can even respect their perspective. But You know real life is different it is not a game, nor is it beauty, you should run for cover or hit back. All you have to do is look around the world, point out one conflict that reflects the beauty that you speak of? I don't think it takes courage to declare someone your enemy, in fact I can successfully argue that it is a cowardly thing to do, it reflects the lack of reason or conviction what you are proposing

^^In debates it can be entertaining to watch and challenging to participate in. However there will always be a need for closure or a middle ground, normal this becomes a new face of the argument which endorses arguments from both sides. In real life it kills a lot of people unnecessarily, people get carried away and forget all regard & consideration for life. I guess it comes down to what you are willing to die for. I'm suprised anyone will admire that let alone like it?

1-Ma naag aad adiga qabto ama guursatooo kuu og ninnimadaada, mise; 2-Naag aad iska qabtaan ama is guursataan oo dooneysa talada reerka in aad wada qaybsataan? That cracked me up! I say marry the one you get one with and adds something to your life.

Well it depends on how far you believe your argument can carry you, most people know whether their argument holds water or not, and they also know the strength & weakness of their arguments and the opposing argument, so they will not give you the opportunity to destroy them totally, you will always be head locked, but obviously one ideology is always more popular than the other depending on the era. If someone takes their Political views as their believes you will never convince them, rather like banging your head on a brick wall. But the solution is to find a middle ground and compromise (even amongst enemies) rather than push back into two extremes.