Aaliyyah;864174 wrote: The thread There is the thread where we discussed this and you posted that very video loool. I am not changing the subject merely refreshing your mind. Move on Mr. Hey lady, I was refreshing MMA's mind! Though to be honest, I figure he knew it, but seeing as he's a perpetual hater, it doesn't really matter. Anyway, you and I have got to just stop having these run-ins riiight? :eek: looooooooooooooool, see you in our next thread.

Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar;864167 wrote: How old were you back in 2000? You said you are 19 years old now. Now minus twelve years, hmm... The only logic you are not getting is this: Galeyr waa shaqsi xor ah, reerkuu doono haka dhashee. He thought he had a chance in guddoomiyaha baarlamaanka and he run for the seat. 'Undermining, destroying' and whatnot is all in your head. He doesn't represent anyone but himself. Get this marka. It's in my head that he used counterfeit currency against Puntland, it's in this video for God's sake! My God, what is it with these people. He admits it here!

Ok, so you want to change the subject when you are put on spot, there's nothing wrong with that, it's expected from the likes of you. Ali Khaliif Galayr had every right to run for Speaker's post, but he paid the price and lost allies. Puntland has its own interests just like your movement, I am not denying any of that, just don't tell me Khaliif Galayr took Speaker's post because he found it better than the presidency.

Logical reasoning and a history lesson is needed for both of you, Aaliyyah, are you denying Khaliif Galayr tried to undermine Puntland back in 2000? It's like speaking to a wall with this one.

Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar;864159 wrote: So by running guddoomiyaha baarlamaanka seat equals 'destroying' goboladaas Waqooyi Bari? What kind of logic and linkage are you trying to make? Yeah, shall I introduce you to a history lesson dating back to his tenure as prime minister of the TNG, no one is talking about this run, my God, get it together.

Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar;864156 wrote: Undermine how? Sadexdaas kursi sareyso iyo kuwa kaleba qof walba oo Soomaalida ah, reerkuu doono haka dhashee, in uu qabto xaq ayuu u leeyahay. Qof ama reer kuraastaas madaxeed gaar u yeelan karto ma jirto. Kuwa iska dhaadhacsiiye inay kuraastaas qaarkood gaar reerahooda u leeyihiin, ma awoowgooda ayee ka dhaxleen? Listen to your own words, you are saying he should compete in the presidential election. He undermined it because the speaker's post is lower than the presidential one and Farmaajo and Gaas are both from the same block as Galayr, so if he took speaker they could not take presidency. The reason it is clearly undermining to anyone who has the ability to rub two brain cells together is because he could have taken the presidential run, but he chose not to, and now you are advising that he should take the presidential one, why not do that in the first place? Let me answer it for you, cause he tried to UNDERMINE the rest of his block. Jawaari did the same, but he succeeded.

Xaaji - It's fear, clearly, Puntland has not had a greater opponent in its history.. No, let me tell you, it's the principle. He tried to destroy Puntland, so the debt is repaid, were you not clapping for him like a cheerleader just a few weeks ago?

The Sage, why don't you get a sense of humour or piss off back to reading Monitoring Reports by Mark Bryden on piracy, that will do you dandy. Who cares about who is in the audience, I remember when you were in Istanbul, you had a placard on the table and you thought you were independent, then we posted on of Puntland and you guys went depressed again. It might happen again..

Aaliyyah, ina adeer, guul la gaarey baa iska yar , lets be honest with each other. Faroole qof ka siyaasad fiican Soomaaliya ma soo marin, he is hated but he is respected for his skills. Dr Khaliif waxaan iri bye bye, so long, nice knowing you. MMA, he should have done that in the beginning it would have been welcomed, but he tried to undermine a whole 1 out of 4.5, that was no appreciated and I am afraid it is not only the Puntland camp he has soured relations with.

I feel sorry for the movement, Aaliyyah, A_Khadar, 'Liibaan' as well as their resident cheerleader Xaaji Xunjuf went through a trauma which was unforeseen for them but obvious for others. Inshallah they will recover.

Abtigiis;864042 wrote: "according to your earlier logic, ONLF will never credit for running the region in the future because they came at a good time when there is development and peace." Mooge, Yes indeed. Unless they have real power and spend sufficient time on power to demonstrate their added value. By the way, I credit Meles for the economic transformation of Ethiopia. But Not Abdiweli for the ratification of the constitution or the capture of Marka. if that is a contradictio, so be it. Ratification of the constitution can be attributed to Abdiweli, there's no question about it. How come it got ratified now and not the 6 years of TFG existence, the last time it was postponed was during Farmaajo's time but this time it got through even though people like the president tried to intervene in the process many times, war give credit where it is due. As for Marka, that is the job of AMISOM.

Who is this Mr. Somalia you are all referring to? This is a hilarious video, I am wrong in laughing?

Your sense of humour is very interesting, kulahaa spelling error, leave Mooge alone!

Hah, look at the sceptics now! I believe he has done the finest job, lets look over major landmark achievements. I will bold his personal ones. Security -Al-Shabaab left Mogadishu -Special Force -Somali Navy -Rebuilding Army Political -Road Map -Garowe Principles -London Conference Somalia -Istanbul Conference Somalia -Constitution -Technical Selection Committee --Warlords & Criminals Out -Post transitional road map Development -Oil exploration Public Administration -Anti-Corruption Committee -UNPOS Nairobi to Somalia -Administrations for liberated regions -Return of embassies Environmental -Charcoal lobbying (Al-Shabaab)

Duufaan, you wish people would give Khaatumo just the recognition that would be enough to attend. Come on, rubbing shoulders with leaders over Meles Zenawi's body, that is your dream isn't it?

Abtigiis;864037 wrote: Except that you are saying he is a leader and I am saying he is not! Amisom, Mahiga, Kenya army and Ethiopia are the leaders of Somalia and therefore strides made towards defeating Alshabab, which is the only meanigful achievement, come from external forces, not from the pretenders in TFG, including the President. But of course natural stu.pid.ty can sometimes override articifical intelligence acquired from wikepeida and the web and may conceal these details from you. You did this on purpose, come ooooooon Mooge you are not going to get through to haters. We have yet to find an actual case against Abdiweli, if it was a Hiil Qaran guy at the steering wheel, he would have gotten full credit and Abtigiis would say he outsmarted them and manhandled them for the sake of the nation!

Carafaat is a sneaky nigga, no doubt about that.

Can someone say what he actually said, I think I am going to learn Amharic.

Xaaji - I'm sorry, did your candidate Galayr win? :eek:

Jacaylbaro;863925 wrote: This is Sh. Sharif's achievements waaryaaa ,,,, The PRESIDENT Actually no, not one bit, all of them (bolded) was Abdiweli's achievements, he is the head of the government, and some of those things listed he actually took upon himself personally like the Technical Selection Committee and the charcoal banning as well as the oil exploration . All of this achieved under his government which were not achieved during Farmaajo or Omar Abdirashid.

Malistar, I don't think it's wise to talk about Faroole when your hero is actually in the PHOTO.. :rolleyes:

See, I told you guys, Abtigiis supports Abdiweli. He sees Abdiweli Mohamed's "qabilist" tendencies as key to his regional vision. Lets look over Abdiweli Mohamed's personal achievements (in bold) among those during his government. Security -Al-Shabaab left Mogadishu -Capture of key towns by AMISOM -Special Force -Somali Navy Political - Road Map - Garowe Principles -London Conference Somalia -Istanbul Conference Somalia - Constitution - Technical Selection Committee --Warlords & Criminals Out - Post transitional road map Development - Oil exploration Public Administration - Anti-Corruption Committee - UNPOS Nairobi to Somalia - Administrations for liberated regions -Return of embassies Environmental -Charcoal lobbying (Al-Shabaab)

Only in your own minds are you a different country, you were sent packing when the funeral was over, no discussions with the international community for you! Niggas tried to be sneaky and shiit, they tried to take advantage of the man's death, clever niggas never even cared about our leader Meles Zenawi, isn't that what you guys are telling us? In your dreams mate

SPOILER ALERT*** Don't READ IF YOU HAVEN'T WATCHED! Garnaqsi, I thought Mike was in the bag, I had chills too. What a brilliant ending, it all fits together, Walt's sudden cash flow, the DEA and Skyler's behaviour with the kids staying with them, man. I think Jesse will flip.