Lool Rockchick negroid Somalia is a nation with people from all over and the Bantus are one of them. But interms of ancestry, the Bantus are not part of the Cushitic race.

There are couple of them here on other threads ... STEM CELL RESEARCH http://www.somaliaonline.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=000004 CLONING http://www.somaliaonline.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=000137

Smokey, welcome to the tech forum. No swearing saxib.

Smokey, welcome to the tech forum. No swearing saxib.

It seems to me everywhere Somalis resettled, natives are complaining about us being a burden to the system and not working hard. We are constantly accused of taking welfare, taking advantage over the system and not working hard to make our families beat the cycle and get of welfare. Do these accusations actually affect other groups of immigrants? I hardly hear of such complaints about others and I am sure there are many poor immigrants from other countries coming to this country. I am talking about the Chinese, and other africans (Ethiopians, Ghanese, Liberians). Are you concerned? I found the following article on Washington Post ---------------------------------- The article on Lewiston, Maine, was only half the story if it is anything like my town of Owatonna, Minn. [in Maine Town, Sudden Diversity and Controversy, front page, Oct. 14]. We too have a large influx of Somali refugees and other foreign nationals. And here, 31 percent of our county budget goes toward social services. For those newcomers requiring public assistance, we pay for health care, dental care, housing and food, as well as paying a monthly stipend. We also pay for the new schools, additional teachers and subsidized lunches for the extra students. And we pay for the new jail to house lawbreakers with special dietary restrictions. Our area recently had a drug bust in which authorities confiscated khat, a plant grown in East Africa and used as a drug by these immigrants. So now there has been a suggestion of a new rehabilitation center because this drug problem is so widespread. The Minneapolis Star Tribune has reported that Somalis in Minnesota send $7 million to their homeland every month. Where does this money come from? American taxpayers. If a group from any country wishes to come to America, its members should not rely on us to fund them and their causes. Give Lewiston and the rest of America a break: Slow up the mass influx of refugees and immigrants who want to take advantage of us. Send us the hardworking, self-sufficient people who will be an asset to our society, not a burden. MAVIS GASNER Owatonna, Minn. ---------------------------------------

I think she is an average somali girl who got the opportunity to beat the system (diet, fashion, money, makeup, etc). I don't find her to be very pretty. All the best to her.

Homosexuality is a choice not genetic. If a nomad makes that choice he or she should be prepared for the consequences ... total rejection by the nomads. as long as they are keeping it to themselves and not running around poisoning little kids ... I think I wouldn't start giving them hard time.

Homosexuality is a choice not genetic. If a nomad makes that choice he or she should be prepared for the consequences ... total rejection by the nomads. as long as they are keeping it to themselves and not running around poisoning little kids ... I think I wouldn't start giving them hard time.

Homosexuality is a choice not genetic. If a nomad makes that choice he or she should be prepared for the consequences ... total rejection by the nomads. as long as they are keeping it to themselves and not running around poisoning little kids ... I think I wouldn't start giving them hard time.

Homosexuality is a choice not genetic. If a nomad makes that choice he or she should be prepared for the consequences ... total rejection by the nomads. as long as they are keeping it to themselves and not running around poisoning little kids ... I think I wouldn't start giving them hard time.

not sure if this is her.

Whats cracking Macruuf. The name rings a bell saxib ... I will try to see if I can find her pic. We probably have seen her in T.DOTZ.

Loooooooooool @ Cambaro luul. You are a joker walaahi. Qofyahey, wax lee isku jacburisey and it sounds you took it right out of that quiz I got 2/10 on my Logic class. Sweet one though...I like it.

I am willing to "seperate the men from the boys" ... audio battle. I will create a thread named after the two MC's ... but let me know who is going against who. This is how it is going to work. -- Record your battle song. -- Go to http://www.soundclick.com and create a "band" there -- Upload your song to soundclick servers -- Provide us the appropriate link. thats all ... I searched for some Somali hiphop songs in the SOUNDCLICK database and I found a song by Phasez called "DHEELA" ... I will now write down the appropriate link to that song so that ya can all listen. http://www.soundclick.com/util/streamM3U.m3u?ID=120056&q=Lo

Welcome back raula Ya finally came out of hiding.

Originally posted by ProPaiN: to all da mc'ez i murdered..god forgive me fo my sins..stay dead Loool@ stay dead. I think it is time you all take this poetry to another level and start some audio battles and stuff. One suggestion for the site.

Somali or Ethiopian? Remember saxib, there are alot of girls that can be mistaken for being a Somali. Until you hear "gabadhaasi waa Ina hebel hebel" ... (The ultimate nomad way of identifying a Somali girl)... don't believe what is being circulated. Faces and "Somali-like" features can actually deceive you.

Somali or Ethiopian? Remember saxib, there are alot of girls that can be mistaken for being a Somali. Until you hear "gabadhaasi waa Ina hebel hebel" ... (The ultimate nomad way of identifying a Somali girl)... don't believe what is being circulated. Faces and "Somali-like" features can actually deceive you.

DOHA, Qatar -- It's a quiet Friday evening in the Middle East, and once again the lead story on Al-Jazeera's 10 p.m. news will be America's saber rattling against Iraq. Judging from the languid pace in the newsroom just minutes before air time, there's nothing much fresh to report. The most interesting story tonight doesn't involve Saddam Hussein but Al-Jazeera itself, the Qatari-based satellite TV channel that is almost as adept at making news as it is in covering it. Earlier in the week, Jordan recalled its ambassador to Qatar and shut the station's bureau in Amman, outraged by an Al-Jazeera talk show that insulted Jordan's royal family. Now word has come that Jordan is refusing to let an Al-Jazeera correspondent leave the the country until he can prove he didn't continue working after the bureau was ordered shut. "We're used to getting this reaction," says Mohamed Jasem Al-Ali, the channel's managing director. "Every day, we hear some country is recalling an ambassador, shutting down our offices, not allowing our reporters in." In the six years since it was founded on the motto "We get both sides of the story," Al-Jazeera has outraged almost every Arab government doing just that, giving critics nearly free rein to blast Arab regimes whose media are little more than propaganda machines. And since the attacks on the United States, Al-Jazeera also has angered the Bush administration and others in the West, who accuse it of being a mouthpiece for Osama bin Laden and fanning anti-Semitism and anti-Americanism. Yet no one can deny that Al-Jazeera has scored some impressive scoops. This month, it aired an exclusive interview from Pakistan with two men suspected of coordinating the Sept. 11 attacks. (One of the men, Ramzi Binalshibh, has since been captured and turned over to U.S. authorities for interrogation and a possible trial.) Last October, Al-Jazeera was the only station broadcasting live from Afghanistan when the U.S.-led bombing began. And for better or worse, it has been the main vehicle through which bin Laden and his supporters have spoken to the world in the past year. Thanks to its aggressive coverage, Al-Jazeera claims at least 35-million viewers in the Arab world and 175,000 who pay to watch it it on cable in North America. Its Web site gets 17-million hits a day. "Al-Jazeera is undoubtedly a new trend in Arab media," says Roger Hardy, a Mideast specialist for the BBC World Service in London. "And as far as I can tell, it's the TV station of choice for Arabs, whether you're a Palestinian in Gaza . . . or you're part of the Arab diaspora in Canada or America and you grind your teeth when you watch CNN because it doesn't give you what you want or you feel its biases are not the biases you share." Whether Al-Jazeera is dangerously biased against the West has become a hot topic of debate since the terrorist attacks. Before Sept. 11, it was generally praised by Western governments and others as a breath of fresh air in the tightly controlled Arab media world. Since then, it has been viewed as a more sinister force. "I think it's interesting to see how some people changed their opinion after Sept. 11 because these were the same people who admired it before," says Mohammed El-Nawawy, a former University of West Florida journalism professor and co-author of a book on Al-Jazeera. The channel has had a particularly stormy relationship with the Bush administration. Aware of the channel's huge influence in the Arab world, a parade of officials including Secretary of State Colin Powell and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld appeared on Al-Jazeera in the days and weeks after Sept. 11. Yet, Powell blasted the channel for airing "vitriolic, irresponsible statements" when it broadcast a videotape in which bin Laden praised the September attacks. And no one at Al-Jazeera thinks it was a mistake, as the U.S. military insists, when an American bomb nearly flattened the station's bureau in Kabul, Afghanistan, last fall and almost killed its correspondent. "When the office was bombed, we got a strange answer from the Pentagon," says Al-Ali, the managing director. "They said they didn't know we had an office in Kabul -- it was a funny answer since the whole world knew we had an office in Kabul." In contrast to the outrage it so often provokes, Al-Jazeera's studio in this little Persian Gulf nation looks about as bland as an insurance claims office. Editors, reporters and technicians -- all in Western-style dress -- move unhurriedly around a newsroom about the size of a new car showroom. On one wall is a large map of the world flanked by 16 color monitors showing live feeds from CNN, the BBC and other Arab channels. Nowhere to be seen, as a U.S. writer once reported, is a "huge, glamorous poster" of bin Laden. "Even the emir of Qatar doesn't have a poster," says Gamel Rayan, one of Al-Jazeera's 16 news anchors. Al-Jazeera prides itself on its independence from government control, even though it was Qatar's ruler, Sheik Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani, who founded the station in 1996 with a five-year, $150-million loan. A progressive ruler who overthrew his father in a peaceful coup, Sheik Hamad has shaped Qatar into a modern and increasingly democratic nation. Its 650,000 people enjoy free education and health care, and a far higher standard of living than in neighboring Saudi Arabia. Relations between the two countries are strained, with Al-Jazeera a major contributor to the tension. Much of the channel's original staff came from the BBC Arabic Service, after the BBC's partnership with a Saudi company collapsed in the mid '90s when the Saudis tried to censor a documentary on execution. Dismayed by the lack of press freedom in the Arab world, Sheik Hamad abolished his country's Ministry of Information, the source of censorship in Saudi Arabia and most other Arab nations, and pledged to let Al-Jazeera "report the news as they see it." "I believe criticism can be a good thing," the emir said in a 1997 speech, "and some discomfort for government officials is a small price to pay for this new freedom." Al-Jazeera -- it means "the Peninsula" in Arabic -- quickly grabbed an audience with lively talk shows on which dissidents blasted the Saudis and other Arab regimes. No matter what it did, the channel seemed to offend one country or another: Iraq yanked the credentials of Al-Jazeera's Baghdad correspondent for stories considered too pro-Western. Kuwait refused to let Al-Jazeera put up a satellite link because it considered the channel's coverage too pro-Iraq. And while it is sympathetic to the Palestinian cause, Al-Jazeera has angered all Arab governments by broadcasting interviews with Israeli leaders and showing Jewish victims of suicide attacks. "I regret that Qatar is gaining enemies instead of friends, especially from Jazeera and what it broadcasts," Kuwait's foreign minister said. But regardless of what their rulers thought, viewers were delighted to get something other than the usual pro-government twaddle. Al-Jazeera was "the first of the Arab TV stations that broke the unwritten rule that thou does not criticize another Arab regime," says U.S. broadcast executive Norman J. Pattiz, mastermind of the Voice of America's new music-and-news format in the Mideast. "They instantly became the populist station, if you will." During Al-Jazeera's early years, the New York Times and other American news organizations did glowing stories. Then came Sept. 11 and "the Western media started paying more attention to it," Pattiz says. "On closer inspection it looked a lot less objective, at least in terms of the United States." In a scathing piece in the New York Times last fall, Fouad Ajami, a Mideast expert at Johns Hopkins University, accused Al-Jazeera of glorifying the Taliban, romanticizing bin Laden and displaying a "virulent anti-American bias." "It is," Ajami wrote, "a dangerous force and should be treated as such by Washington." Some observers think Al-Jazeera's coverage assumed anti-Western overtones after Sept. 11, at least temporarily. The Bush administration and other critics "were turning the screws on a very vulnerable infant news organization, and rather than take the high road they went where the audience was -- they did what Fox did," says Michael Moran, a former BBC analyst. "We pushed them into a situation where they either had to lose audience to kowtow to the U.S. or be defiant and build an audience that way. I don't think either one would have been good journalism." Al-Jazeera denies the tone of its coverage has changed since Sept. 11 although it acknowledges it has always covered the news from an Arab/Muslim perspective just as CNN does from a Western perspective. ("We do not have any flags on our screen," its Washington, D.C., bureau chief pointedly noted, in reference to CNN's patriotic images of American flags flapping in the breeze.) El-Nawawy, co-author of the book on Al Jazeera, thinks the channel is professional and balanced and does a good job by and large. However, as with any medium, he feels there is room for improvement. "They take extremes," he says. "Like on a talk show about normalization of relations with Israel, one side is totally against and the other side is totally for. They should present more of the middle ground because there is a lot of middle ground in the Middle East." The channel is often accused, too, of going light on Qatar while allowing heavy criticism of other Arab governments. One example: Al-Jazeera has been almost silent about the large U.S. military buildup at the Al-Udeid air base, expected to be a staging ground for an invasion of Iraq. The buildup is a sensitive subject with Qatar's government, which doesn't want to be seen as supporting an attack against another Arab nation. Al-Jazeera "just needs to handle domestic issues as they handle other issues and other gulf states like Bahrain," which also has a big U.S. base, El-Nawawy says. Al-Ali, the channel's managing editor, says Qatar doesn't warrant the amount of coverage devoted to Saudi Arabia or other countries because it is a much smaller nation. And even while Al-Jazeera was getting money from Sheik Hamad, there was no attempt to influence coverage, he says: "The Qatari government gives us full support to work as a professional channel." Al-Jazeera no longer receives financial help from Qatar, Al-Ali says, and has become self-supporting from the sale of ads, footage and programming, plus contractual agreements with CNN and other networks. But it has yet to show a profit: Some advertisers have been frightened away because of pressure from the Saudis, who hate Al-Jazeera so much they have refused to let it open a bureau in their country. Still, Al-Jazeera hopes to expand its budding empire, which includes 48 reporters in 30 nations. It wants to beef up its presence in New York, which is covered out of its Washington, D.C., bureau, and add correspondents in Jerusalem, Spain, South America and the Far East. It also is trying to get its bombed bureau in Kabul back to full speed. And despite criticism from the West that it has been a mouthpiece for Osama bin Laden, Al-Jazeera will continue to vie with other TV networks for tapes from him or his supporters. "Now the competition is very strong," Al-Ali says. "Bin Laden is a very important item in the news -- all of us are in competition." Does he think bin Laden is alive? "That," he says, "I do not know."

"Colin Powell is permitted to come into the house of the master, as long as he will serve the master according to the master's plans," Belafonte said. "And when Colin Powell dares suggest something other than what the master wants to hear, he will be turned back out to pasture. And you don't hear much from those who live in the pasture." --- Harry Belafonte ------------------- NEW YORK — Black politicians and pundits on Wednesday slammed Harry Belafonte for comments the calypso crooner made comparing Secretary of State Colin Powell to a house slave, and President Bush to his white "master." "For Harry Belafonte to show his ignorance and lack of knowledge and to be used by liberals in the Democratic Party because they hate the support Bush is enjoying among blacks in this country, it's an insult to him and degrades him," said syndicated columnist Armstrong Williams. "It's almost laughable." Belafonte made his comments about Powell on Tuesday, during an interview with San Diego radio station KFNB. "Colin Powell is permitted to come into the house of the master, as long as he will serve the master according to the master's plans," Belafonte said. "And when Colin Powell dares suggest something other than what the master wants to hear, he will be turned back out to pasture. And you don't hear much from those who live in the pasture." Black Republicans were having none of it. Outgoing Colorado Lt. Gov. Joe Rogers said Belafonte's sentiments aren't shared by most black Americans. "Colin Powell is revered for the most part as the best of African-American achievements," said Rogers. "He is among the most admired, if not the most admired African-American in the United States. That fact that Harry may have his opinions doesn't mean they necessarily constitute the opinion of African-Americans throughout the country:" Belafonte could not be reached for comment Wednesday. State Department spokesman Richard Boucher made it clear the secretary of state wasn't taking the singer's comment seriously. "He smiled when I talked about it," Boucher said at a press conference Wednesday. "He also said that both the IRS and his accountant thought he was better off as a field hand. When he was out in the field, he was doing a little better." Dubbed the King of Calypso and known more for his sultry, soothing renditions of songs like "Day-O (The Banana Boat Song)," "Island in the Sun" and "Jump in the Line," Belafonte was far from melodious when he blasted Powell, a fellow Jamaican-American, for joining the Bush administration. "I think Colin Powell made a decision to serve the Republican party since he served that kind of an ideological leader," Belafonte said. "And I think that he's finding even the best of himself (is) having no room to be heard, because that's not the voice they want. What Colin Powell serves is to give the illusion that the Bush cabinet is a diverse cabinet made up of people of color and made up of people of another gender, and that that alone is to give Bush the credentials to say that he's a truly democratic man, when in fact none of that is what is true." It wasn't clear if Belafonte was also referring to National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, a black woman. "There's an old saying in the days of slavery, there were those slaves who lived on the plantation and there were those slaves who lived in the house," Belafonte said. "You got the privilege of living in the house if you served the master to exactly the way the master intends to have you serve him." The husky-voiced crooner also took aim at other Attorney General John Ashcroft, comparing the present-day Justice Department to the House of Un-American Activities under Sen. Joe McCarthy in the 1950s. "To deny those rights to any citizen, to any people, is to cast a great shame on us and lead us back to another dark period," Belafonte said. Belafonte has taken issue with the Bush administration and Powell in the past, criticizing the president for not sending Powell to last year's World Conference Against Racism in Durban, South Africa. In a speech to the National Association of Black Journalists in August 2001, the Harlem-born singer and actor dared Powell to upbraid his White House boss. "'You've gone too far, Mr. Bush. You cannot walk away from a conference on race,'" Belafonte suggested Powell say to Bush. "'The world is being devoured by it; our children are being murdered by it.'" Belafonte, accused by some music critics of singing an inauthentic, commercially mainstream version of traditional Caribbean music, has long been outspoken about his views of racism in the United States. He has said he turned down early acting roles in his career because "Broadway only had Uncle Tom parts for me." Belafonte has been politically active throughout his life, acting as Peace Corps cultural advisor, chairman to the New York State Martin Luther King Jr., Commission and UNICEF Goodwill ambassador. [/i]

“America and its deputies should know that their crimes will not go unpunished,” he said. “We advise them to make a hasty retreat from Palestine, the Arabian Gulf, Afghanistan and the rest of the Muslim states, before they lose everything.” --- Ayman al-Zawahri http://www.msnbc.com/news/819282.asp?0si=-&cp1=1

FYI: This is a JEOPARDY THREAD ............ Don't ask question like a QUIZ. lool. You guys are killing the game

FYI: This is a JEOPARDY THREAD ............ Don't ask question like a QUIZ. lool. You guys are killing the game

Welcome back Indhadeeq. Don't do this to us again It is gonna be a war next time.

Indeed, ViCioUS's trespassing was a violation of "CALLING OUT NAMES PT1" code of ethics. Its gettin' hot in here ...