The ngos hide behind noble goals but some only recruit christians. The missonary drive in africa has succeeded in places like Nigeria. Governments should be wary and implement measures to put a stop to it.

^lol I'm trying to bring him back. He has been abducted by another site.

Shokshoki followed by macsuub with cream for breaky. Beat that JB

A sad situation. How will things ever change when its ALWAYS a case of 'wax qabso' instead of compromise for the common good. Whats even worse is that the qurbo joog intellects as well as the uneducated don't seem to want to compromise.

Loool nuune Where did that happen then? Swaziland or Peru?

^You're talking rubbish.

Does Frasier still come on? Everryone seems to want to leave UK. Ana I want to come back. Afternoon all

Nin Yaaban, just watched it. It was recorded by Somalis by the sounds of it. You can hear "oo gaadhiga maxaa xagaa geeyey"

Shady charaters? What shady characters? What have they been preaching? Where?

Alpha Blondy;953612 wrote: ^ oh yeah? you're a former shadow of yourself Xinnoow.....just give-up, uncle. it'll restore some much needed sharaf. waa taalo. Maybe it isn't Xiin

Ninkii JB waaba la waayeyoo fb has locked him up. Ngonge ma la hayaa? Naajeeri ayay noqdeen one called Michael

Terrible thread

The facebook jail let you go miya?

I feel sick. Apparently the EDL are mobilising.

Waad na daaliseene macasalaama

I do enjoy picking up on Ngonge's af somali mistakes

^Saxib, I'm saying they need to be patient and stop this whole seyf la bood iyo hadaany nahay hebel hebel based on information that no one can actually prove/disprove. Its a position of Somalia aniga weeye iyo anigaa Somalia ah. How will the country move forward with all thise nonsense every year? NGONGE;953491 wrote: ^^ Somaliland's war finished in 1991. Somalia's war is still ongoing. The disputes are the same, the explanations are the same, the mistrust the same. Don't you ever get waylaid by the (necessary) "nation building" guff that we tell each other in Somaliland. At the bottom of it all, the idea is the same. We broke away because we believe it not to be in our interest to be part of Somalia. Those opposing Hassan Sheikh believe it not to be in their interest to support his government today. Dee its the 'basis' for the changing interests that can't be compared. Wax fahan ninyow.

Wyre af soomaaligiisu wu hagaagsanyahay. Never heard of Qhandiifo saxib. Ma kalmad baa mise waa xaaji casiir twisting Somali words again?

Wax cusub maad ii sheegin saxib. I'm still wondering how all this compares with Somaliland wanting to breakaway. One position was taken in the aftermath of a civil war (and hasn't changed) and the other is one of party (clan) politics (which has changed). That the government has done this or not done that isn't entirely clear. Until it is made absolutely clear, they really don't have much to shout home about. Hanging your hat on something that isn't entire clear only shows clan is number one and not country. As for Somaliland, it's position is based on what happened in a war and not on finger pointing and clan politics. One can't compare the two positions.

Qandhiifo? Afternoon beebal. Sayidka bal waran saxib.

NGONGE;953453 wrote: ^^ You used to be pro Sheikh Sharif but opposed him by the end of his presidancy. Are people not allowed to change their minds in accordance with changing circumstances? Isn't that what happened to Somaliland in 1991? I see its coconuts and pears now Sheikh Sharif's term was for how long? 4 Years? Are you comparing less than 1 year to 4 years? Naga daa dee. All I'm saying is that those who oppose Hassan today are being unreasonable. I may see it as reasonable after 4 years if he fails. At the moment, its still early days. He hasn't failed. Early days require patience and listening (a broken country needs to be rebuilt). If the 'nationalists' don't want to be patient or don't want to listen to the government, they're being unreasonable. There you go bringing Somaliland into it again

Ngonge, Somaliland being asked to remain part of Somalia cannot be compared with being pro Hassan Shiekh one day and opposing him the next. Somaliland has the 'right' to do as it wishes. Supporting Somalia one day then a region the next without allowing for fruitful (heh) discussions is wrong. Wax fahan.

NGONGE;953420 wrote: It's only wrong because you refuse to see it for what it is warya. When an entire group of Somalis (PL, Jubbaland, Khaatumo and ONLF) all agree to go against the government of the time, you must know that something serious has taken place. After all, all these guys were never in agreement in the past so what happened to unite them all of the sudden in such a way? The Imam blames the way the FG views the federal arrangement and says that the Hassan Sheikh government are attempting to move the goal posts. Therefore, it is not in his interests to compromise today. Somaliland used to be part of Somalia. Somaliland (as Xaaji X never tires of telling us) happily went into the union with Somalia only to change their minds in later years. Some people are asking Somaliland to "compromise" today but it's not in Somaliland's interest to be part of Somalia (today). You are happy to believe in the argument that concerns you but see all kinds of mischief in the one that concerns Jubbaland. How do you like them apples, duqa? You’re a good cook PL, Jubbaland, Khaatumo and ONLF have all decided to put the blinkers on. They’re not prepared to consider the governments concerns. The government has been sent away from Jubbaland on previous occasions. They have met them and talked with them on others. They have expressed their concerns and have also stated the door is open for more talks. But, Jubbaland goes ahead ignoring the government’s concerns. How could this happen when just last year every man and his clan supported this process and promised to work with the government? The goal posts haven’t been moved but there is a lot of simulation going on. Somaliland hasn’t changed its mind dee. They’re not jumping from one bandwagon to another. They have been consistent in their position. That position hasn’t changed.

NGONGE;953368 wrote: ^^ The point stands. Wax fahan. Dee the point is wrong. Wax fahan Edit Jubbaland The one who wholeheartedly supported the process in which the country’s leaders were appointed is today busy throwing mud their way because they haven’t been receptive to their tol’s agenda/desires. Somaliland People want to split from Somalia after a brutal civil war. Apples and oranges dee

They're fruits (different types of fruits)