Saxib, iga daa the selective verses and the guilt trip. I’m sure bombing a university graduation ceremony was accidental and unintentional. This is a very simple discussion. All I want from you is to confirm whether or not AS’ actions are in line with Islam. I can also point to numerous occasions, pick out various statements, refer to the Quran and ahadeeth (showing where AS are wrong), refer to what the Somali Ulama have agreed upon with regard to AS etc etc. I’m not defending or justifying AMISOM’s actions. I just want a straight answer from you, Red or Maadeey. Are AS’ actions (take the university graduation ceremony as an example), in accordance with Islam (that was not accidental)? Forget AMISOM, forget the TFG, forget the Ethios, forget any alleged stance I held previously, forget everything. Just answer the above question.

Simple questions Karl, what is the difference between AS killing civilians (at the airport) and AMISOM killing civilians (in Bakara market)? What gives AS the right to do what they do? Is this Islamically correct? Bal ka soo fakar. Ps I don’t want you to diverge away from these questions. I want you to answer in a clear and concise manner.

It was a great day for sport. Prem, La Liga and Calcio results. Djokovic beating Fed Express in 5 sets. USA and host nation Turkey getting into todays Basketball final F1 qualifying More to come today!

Red, What you have there and what you have been giving us is your opinion. That’s fine. We are all entitled to our opinions (even if there is disagreement). However, when confronted with FACTS one needs to address those facts and not hide behind their partisan opinions. I have given you facts on the ground. Facts that AS are doing the same things as you’re accusing AMISOM of, facts that what AS are doing is not Islamic etc. So far you haven’t countered any of those facts. You have even gone as far as claim victims of AS’ actions are a necessity (waar Ilaahay ka baq).

I finally had an Arsenal fan agree with me Song is way over-rated. Nice goal. Arsenal won 4-1 and the fans are certain they will win the league. It hides the fact that Arsenal won that after Cahill was sent off (just like they did vs Blackpool). Anyone see Gyan's goal? Libaax fooqal Libaax. This kid Mousa for Falham has impressed me so far. Technically very good on the ball, knows when to hold and when to release. City and Spurs can't handle the pressure and Mancini will be gone if he doesn't turn it around in the next 3 games. Ps Barca got hammered.

Red Sea, no matter how much you try and justify the killing of innocents, the fact remains, it is WRONG in ISLAM (this is no small matter). Thus making all of your other arguments about occupation, TFG etc null and void (as AS are doing the same thing - massacering the people).

Its interesting to see that in the space of a few weeks we have seen how things can change. The media's coverage of the Mosque and how many gave time to protesters and now they make it sound as though this guy is entitled to do what he wants without questioning his motives, if he will inflame things etc etc. His actions have prompted a 'fear the backlash' response.

I don't get road rage anymore heh. I drive like Miss Daisy now. Not going far. A shave and car wash. Already got my dishdashers. Mid balaadhan ma ku soo diraa?

Eid mubarak once again. Time to venture out into the chaos.

Val, lol, ma maantaad ciideen? Ciid manaagsan nontheless. Turkiya eh? Nuune, we do live next to the airport. Daallo iyo African xagaasaan ka arkey before i pick anyone up . LoL

Zack, waa runtaa saxib. I have been a zombie maalmahan. Nuune, I even saw the moon last night. Then realised it was the lights of an approaching 777

Afternoon all. About an hour to go and I'm struggeling......... Eid wanaagsab all.

Saudi confirmed Friday.

Eid will be on Friday IA

How many magnifying glasses? Heh

Did I tell you I actually saw qaloocan and jaamac qamar on a map? Who would have thought lol

Sayid, marka hore Ramadan kariim iyo ciid saceed. 2ndly, dont bring up Burco when Ngonge is around in case he does a runner lol

What an absurd analogy. If that did happen ma waxaad leedahay you wouldn't take care not to hurt your own in the process? Dee waa waxaan aan sheegayay. Wixiinu waa qub iyo qac. You will destroy your own people in the process yet call it progress. This isn't accidental, it's neglegence and recklessness which is akin to doing it on purpose. Adigu runta ka carar uun.

So you acknowledge they have killed civilians on purpose (as long as there is something shown for it like Quran lessons right?) but then you deny they're khawaarij? Anyway, enjoy the progress. Apologies for highlighting what everyone is thinking.

Mad, ma waxaad rabta in aan 10 paragraph oo khawaarijka iyo dhibaataday shacabka u geesteen ku saabsan in aan soo qoro? Duqa, arintu markay cadahay la isma dhibo. Qofka nacayb u haya AS waa qof aan runta ka cararin.

Not long now. Can smell the sambuuse.

They know civilians will be in the vicinity and there is a very high chance they will be caught up in the bombing or shooting. Thats 'on purpose'. They haven't achieved anything (kids were memorising the Quran under the warlords as well).

I skimmed read what you posted there. AS have killed innocent civilians. Without listing when, where and for what purpose, do you agree?

Originally posted by NGONGE: ^^ You mean nobody even bothered to eat it? That's more annoying than not getting warya. Grrrr! Waa laga xishooday your tub. There were plenty of other tubs (Juxa's being the biggest one)

Ngonge, there was a tub of Omani xalwa waiting for you in N London. Everyone assumed I told you but I didn't know it was there until it was no longer fit for consumption. I'll send the machine. Lacagta Dhiigshiil soo dhiga.