^^ . Whether they were fully or partly working with the TFG or not, now it seems that they are all out of it. And the Kismaayo issue might change its nature. We might not hear from our local TFG flag bearers that the both sides of Kismaayo conflict are TFG soldiers. I just don't know what the TFG was thinking when they sacked Barre Hiiraale. Their action now tribalizes and as a result unites clans who were partly dis-satisfied with the TFG. I remember many months ago, I predicted that Hiiraale would someday be the next target. Lol, let me try digging up that thread.

Thank you my fellow SOLers. Cambaro...sorry to hear that, at least he is recovering. You will get a reply sooner, I hope. About the MEPs, I have tried to send an email but it got returned - wrong mail-address I think. I am going to try again. How long was it when you have written to your local MEP?

So what does this mean for current occupiers of Kismaayo? Does it mean that the whole of reer Gedo/Caabudwaaq are out of the TFG?

This is the reply I got from my MP. I would suggest we write to other MPs and directly start writing to Mr McCartney, The Foreign Office Minister for Somalia. -----

^^Jacaylbaro, unitigaa ayaanba rabnaa. Aniga NFD iyo Ethiopia ayaa layga jiraa oo uu geel xeryo igaga gadaaman yahay. marka, unity ayaan u doonayaa ninyow balse inta la doondoonayo in si xaq-dhowr leh ha lagu doondoono ayaan leeyahay. There is a bigger picture here and all we seem to some doing is fighting over one piece of it. That won't do.

Qolaa qolof moos looga dhigayaa ..

^^You would be the perfect candidate for Liberal Somali Youth Party of the early 60s Somalia. Shame, they couldn't sell liberal values then and I doubt you can now, CG . Sorry mate, Somalis have all gone through the Duksi Indoctrination- nothing breaks the mold.

^^Adiga iyo isaga ma isku kiin dhawrannaa marka? . **Grabs popcorn*** Haye halkaa kasii wada yaa shabaab

^Lol Xiin. Fundamentals of nationhood? What is it that we don't know that you know? Sometimes such things come across as mere jargons sxb. Maybe we should discuss the 'fundamentals of nationhood' at length and indepth. We might learn new things. Lol, because they grevances are 'correctable' their action towars self-reliance is 'unjustifiable'? Some logic there, yaa Xiin. You say: giving Somaliland’s wrong policies of secession a moral rationalization on a mere political and institutional disadvantages Or is it, Xiin? You seem to be ignoring the fact that my writing was merely dealing with the first years of independence. Don't reach your conclusions before you hear all the evidence. Or other wise you would need to revise your conclusions again and again I assure you isku meel ma deganin, as far as I know .

Originally posted by me: A question for you paragon, where do the borders of one clan end and the borders of others start? The end point at which their camels and sheep graze.

I don't think you realise that if referendum is to held, the whole matter would be tribalized. Many mistakes have been made previously by dividing tribes into different countries. So I think each clan would be made to decide its future. Reer Sool and Sanaag as tribes and reer Togdheer and Awdal as tribes may equally have the same privilage. At least that is how I believe things would happen. It could be different!

^A valid point there Stealth. If we're honest enough with ourselves, I think, there are many things that are visibly wrong. But we decide to act blissfully ignorant of them.

Thanks guys. Insha-allah, will post the second part soon. I am glad you guys are waiting anxiously. I am anxiously looking forward to post it .

Loooooool.

Historic images.

Originally posted by Cara: LOL @ Paragon. I never understood how we can live on a thin strip of land on the coast and yet look down on those who eat seafood. It's so perverse. Cara, lol you make it sound so exotic, ah seafood .

^Ma wax aad ogtahay ayaa jira oo lagaa wareysto? Maya oo haa?

^^Lol. Adeer adiga markaad yareyd miyey dabeel kugu dhacdey mise malmalkaa lagaa illaawey? Meeshaad wax la aaddey ayaanba la yaabay... cajaaib. Chatku siyaasad ayaa loola soo shirtagaa adeer. Wax ma ka taqaan siyaasad? Wakukaa hadda. Waxyaalaha laga yaqyaqsado ee aad ku hadashey ha u noqon fadlan.

^Lol. Adeer maba shaqaynayo chatka. Thats why the thread is back alive.

^^Lol. Nope. Can't find it in the Swahili thesaurus. Must be something beyond our comprehension .

Originally posted by rokko: ^^ kaalay labadiinaan xodxodasho aad wadataan dee maad luuqa gashaan bal. Lol. Rokko. Ma waxaad ka waddaa feer iyo fara-laab baad wadaan. Adeer gabdhihii la xodxodin ee la is hal-xiraaleyn jirey lama hayo waagan.

^^Lol. Sure. In which language are going to bully them with though? Its a mystery .

^^If I don't stand by NGONGE, 2moro it'd be me being told to square up. See, Xanthus?

^^What are you, Behaviour Police?

What planning does it need? None at all. You bring along a placcard with a mis-spelt slogan and bang! You have a demo in downing st. We can't do it in travalgar sq. but someday we would. Now, cheer up, would ya? PS: what are you doing yourself? Keeping busy having a short span of attention, I guess .