WSLF insurgency after 1977 war

[Old_Observer]

34 minutes ago, cubano said:

OLD_OBSERVER:

"UWSLF, ONLF, SDL, SILF"

 

UWSLF ceased to exist in 2010 when they signed a peace agreement with Ethiopia. ONLF is still active in Ogaden.

I have never heard anything about SILF and SDL, could you tell me something about them.

 

I aalso give you more names and will try to explain the above as well.

From an Ethiopian registerd parties list of 1997:

WSDP (Western Somali Democratic Party);

SPLFP (Somali People's Liberation Front Party)

SALF (Somali Abo Liberation Front)

ESDL (Ethiopian Somali Democratic League)

These are in addition to ONLF and others. Mr. Samatar by the way is very biased person and he does not hide it. He would never mention why kililka people came from Mogadishu to Ethiopia. He makes it look like they came to get power in Ethiopia. On the contrary some of them walked part of the way barefoot, from the civil war in Somalia and what had happened in Mogadishu. He is completely biased.

SDL was working underground util 1991. A number of Somalis in the Ethiopian government today can credit their movement on SDL either were active before 1991 or became members after 1991.

 

 

[cubano]

Ethiopian Somali Democratic League (ESDL)

The Ethiopian Somali Democratic League (ESDL) was a political party in the Somali Region of Ethiopia. It was the ruling EPRDF's regional partner from 1994 to 1998.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopian_Somali_Democratic_League

 

 

Somali Abbo Liberation Front vs Derg

http://ucdp.uu.se/#/conflict/436

After a brutal Ethiopian counter-insurgency campaign in 1980, SALF was so weakened that it failed to make any further military impact.

 

 

The Somali in Ethiopia

Author:

John Markakis

http://www.roape.org/pdf/7013.pdf

 

 

WSLF vs Derg

However, by and large WSLF increasingly came to resemble a spent force, and after 1983 the group was no longer a military threat to the Addis Ababa regime.

During the first years after its formation, ONLF did not have any significant military capacity. In fact, while some sources talk vaguely of the group gaining a foothold in the Ogaden region in the late 1980s, there are no reports of it actually challenging the Addis Ababa regime militarily.

http://ucdp.uu.se/#/conflict/329

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[cubano]

I think people must know WSLF history.

[Old_Observer]

19 hours ago, cubano said:

Somali Abbo Liberation Front vs Derg

http://ucdp.uu.se/#/conflict/436

After a brutal Ethiopian counter-insurgency campaign in 1980, SALF was so weakened that it failed to make any further military impact.

What happened is since most of them had identity crisis they became Oromo and became Oromo Abo Liberation Front. They were participant in Ethiopia until 2000s.

Mogadishu used to support them just by assumption that they are Somali or close to Somali. That was bad idea and consequence of that is there is some identity crisis to this date.

[cubano]

WSLF suffered serious casualtied after 1977 war. They felt betrayed by Barre.

I think WSLF was a minor problem in 1991.

[cubano]

The Somali in the new political order of Ethiopia

John Markakis

 

http://www.roape.org/pdf/5908.pdf

 

Page 74

WSLF remained organisationally moribund.

 

 

 

[cubano]

Transition from war to peace: the Ethiopian disarmament, demobilisation and reintegration experience

Mulugeta Gebrehiwot Berhe

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10246029.2017.1297580

 

Additionally, the EPRDF had to determine the fate of the other groups who had fought the Derg within the new political arrangement, wherein the EPRDF formed an interim government in order to lead the nation through the transition. While the number of such groups was large, their actual military capacity was insignificant to none.

 

They included: the Oromo Liberation Front (OLF); the Ethiopian People’s Revolutionary Army (EPRA); the United Oromo People’s Liberation Front (UOPLF); the Islamic Front for the Liberation of Oromo (IFLO); the Somali Abbo Liberation Front (SALF); the Western Somali Liberation Front (WSLF); the Sidama Liberation Front (SLF); the Afar Liberation Front (ALF); the Benishangul People’s Liberation Movement (BPLM); the Ethiopian Democratic Union (EDU); and the Gambella People’s Liberation Movement (GPLM). All of these groups claimed to have been engaged in armed struggles and to have had armed forces under their command.

[Old_Observer]

21 hours ago, cubano said:

I think people must know WSLF history.

I did not realize that it was the only  focus of your inquiry. I thought you were trying to see the contribution of the Somali people in Ethiopia to the making of today's Ethiopia.

BTW WSLF debris still exist, mostly in Somalia Republic, but some individuals in Kililka as well. Hard to know whether they are organized or not, but from time to time one can see signs of WSLF in kililka politics. Since at one point WSLF had up to 15,000 fighters, its hard to say it has disappeared in thin air. A lot of these fighters are still alive. Even sentiment and nostalgia is enough to be seen from time to time.

 

 

[cubano]

But I am talking about WSLF as insurgency. I think WSLF is inactive, now.

WSLF was not a serious military threat in 1991.

[Old_Observer]

1 hour ago, cubano said:

But I am talking about WSLF as insurgency. I think WSLF is inactive, now.

WSLF was not a serious military threat in 1991.

Threat to whom?

If you mean the Derg the most potent threat and capable were the Afar Tigray (consider Eritrea out of this snce we are talking about Ethiopia and those who remained in Ethiopia)

ONLF was militarily more significant than WSLF, especially the ONLF side that was separate/aginst to some degree to Mogadishu.

I wuld say in Ethiopia WSLF was maybe no.5 if you put them in order of effectiveness.

That is why the EPRDF has to give them place and respect. No body gives you regard if you are not threat or big potential threat.

 

[cubano]

ONLF was inactive in 1984. They began armed strugle in 1994.

 

Check out this interview with ONLF chairman Mohamed Osman:

Asharq Al-Awsat Talks to ONLF Leader, Admiral Mohamed Omar Osman

https://eng-archive.aawsat.com/theaawsat/features/asharq-al-awsat-talks-to-onlf-leader-admiral-mohamed-omar-osman

[Asharq Al-Awsat] When was the ONLF founded, and what are the goals for which it is fighting?

[Osman] The ONLF was founded in 1984, but began armed action 10 years later, in 1994

 

Observer:

That is why the EPRDF has to give them place and respect. No body gives you regard if you are not threat or big potential threat

 

WSLF was inactive in 1991. They were not a serious military threat. Check out these sources.

 

 

Ethnicity and Power in Ethiopia Sarah Vaughan

https://www.era.lib.ed.ac.uk/bitstream/id/1299/vaughanphd.pdf

Page 207

"they asked for Sudanese help to locate representatives of the long moribund Western Somalia Liberation Front (WSLF)"

 

 

On the Complexity of Analyzing Armed Opposition: Objectives, Labeling, and Reflections on Ethiopia’s Somali Region

https://repositorio.iscte-iul.pt/bitstream/10071/8479/1/Ylonen_JAHPS_Vol-I_No-I_2015.pdf

 

After the war, the WSLF had remained as the main armed opposition organization in the Somali region, but during the course of the early 1980s it lost much of its strength and by 1989 it was largely defunct

 

 

Ethiopian professor writes about Ethiopia’s policy of destabilizing Somalia

http://samaynta.com/index.php/2017/02/13/ethiopian-professor-writes-about-ethiopian-policy-of-destabilizing-somalia/

 

In addition, the WSLF and SALF were significantly weakened after the Ogaden War. The former was practically defunct by the late 1980s, with its splinter group, the Ogaden National Liberation Front (ONLF) operating from headquarters in Kuwait

 

The sources are clear, WSLF was inactive after 1984.

 

 

 

 

[galbeedi]

Kuubo candho dheer.

 

Don't you know the world map. It is along way from the impoverished Cuba to the horn of Africa. Get lost and get back to your communist island.

From Cubano to OO and then to another name in 2019.

Shaqo yeesha. Anaga ha nooga sheekaynia taariikhdaada. 

Waar bal aduunyadan eega. They want to destroy this site with useless trolls.

 

[galbeedi]

Ha ka sheekayn taariikhdii 77kii haddii aadan garanayn " Kuubo Candho Dheer".

[cubano]

I dont want to destroy anything here.

I just want to show new sources about WSLF. Many somalis should be grateful of my details about Somalia history.

[galbeedi]

Aha, you must be a research fellow from university of Makale.