galbeedi Posted December 6, 2015 The so called federalism can be implemented in a different way than the one currently being pushed by the international community. The country is 18 regions that could make the federation. Who says that they must be joined one or more to make it larger. The provisional constitution was rushed during the 2012 road map under the gun of Al-shabaab violence. certain influential players wanted to have bigger voice than most Somalis. Since neither an elected parliament or popular referendum voted for these constitution, I believe it could be amended any time if their are political will from the leaders. In states , Canada or Australia, the huge states and small states, all have voices in the federal system. The Ethiopian federal system which is based on ethnicity can not be compared with tribal based regions of Somalia, but if you insist on following that system , then you must accept or copy their solutions. Disputed or mixed cities were left under the federal government. The former Somali City of Diredawa , now overrun by Oromo is under the control of the federal government. Why would anyone want to force Gedo to Jubada Hoose. Because Kenya and others want this to be huge political entity that could have undue influence in the affaires of the Somali State. Also, the power grab of the Mogadishu based HAG is forcing many to challenge their dysfunction and domination which prevented the formation of a viable state. In order to break the HAG strangulation of the system, many communities are encouraging a system of government that could have irreparable damage to the future function of the state. The best way to break the HAG strangulation and dysfunction is not to put holes in the boat that we are all ridding , but to build the strength of the national government. Also, one issue that can not be ignored is Dam Jadiid. They are maneuvering and creating wars to gerrymander their 2016 agenda. We must all unite to rid them after the end of their mandate. Traditionally Somalis have bad history of providing public services to both cities and rural communities. Making these regions big and unsustainable will not serve the interest of no one. They could be ridding guns with their militia in the streets, the countless ministers could be flying around but, no service will be delivered. Just observe the latest federal state of Galmudug pushed by Damjadiid. Before they even dug a water wall or build a school, the first order of the day was to mobilize their militia . No wonder there is no national army for the country, while a well armed tribal militia could be found both in Puntland and Galmudug. Back to the Mudug quagmire.... There are no logic to divide the City of Gaalkacayo in two to satisfy the tribal hegemony of these warring groups. . There are no good or perfect solutions, but there are logical ways to resolve. 1- The idea of Puntlanders having only their tribal brethren in Puntland is a non starter. The Huge H..ti project which meant to combined Sool , Estern Snaag and Buuhoodle had already failed. Cali Khaliif and company decided to form Khaatumo and rejected that plan. The whole of Mudug including Xaradhere and Hobyo and their communities could join to Puntland, thus the "Reer Mudug" will have a strong voice inside Puntland that combines former hostile neighbors. The Puntland that was envisioned by many during the civil war might not be possible today. 2-The whole MUdug region and Galgaduud could become one federal state. That central state will leave Puntland to only Bari & Nugaal while eliminating Cabdi Weli's sub clan from Puntland and joining them with other trouble makers of the central region. This scenario automatically excludes North MUdug communities who are and were integral part of puntland since the formation of Puntland. It may be a tough pill to swallow, but tough solutions are not supposed to be easy. 3-Since this region is a mix of different communities, it could be left alone as one region under the federal system. They will not be neither under Puntland nor central region. This idea of forcing , influencing ,bribing or using foreign powers to create this huge illogical regions is a recipe for disaster. Most of these solutions can only be implemented by strong Somali leader who shows competence, impartiality and vision. A leader who could reject these huge unsustainable regions trying to be big fishes in a small Somali pond. More dicenralization is needed for the people to get the service they needed. I am in favour of all 18 regions managing their affairs. If two regions , voluntarily agree to join hand without influence or bribe, they should be welcomed. This huge camel who can not carry his own water must not be trusted to carry big loads. IN Somaliland, Togdheer will be it self, Woqoyi Galbeed and AWdal will each have their own administration. Same goes with Sool and Sanaag. Since that project of separation is over, there are no reasons to keep pushing illogical ideas for another 25 years. For 25 years the Somaliland system could not build 50km of roads or any meaningful projects to reduce poverty or unemployment. Please stop these huge illogical bureaucracy and transfer the service and decision making to local communities. The people do not need 30 ministers and another 30 deputy ministers to masquerade as a regional government. They need public health managers, education administrators, public works projects in their local communities, competent and impartial justice system. They do not need fat men ridding land cruisers flying to Nairobi and Dubai to satisfy the ego of the tribe. 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xabad Posted December 6, 2015 ^ Your not sincere, that i can tell. I will leave the folks who have better knowledge to critique your ideas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galbeedi Posted December 6, 2015 That was the young ministers with his shoes on the carpet. everyone removed their but him. Arogance? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xabad Posted December 6, 2015 He skipped one obvious solution in his thinly disguised anti PL screed. Why not combine the HG clan under one federal entity, Galgaduud and Galmudug to form one state. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galbeedi Posted December 6, 2015 Xabad do you even read before your response. Point # 2 was exactly that. I guess this Is not your cup of tea. As you said in your first comment, leave these to others Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xabad Posted December 6, 2015 <cite> @galbeedi said:</cite> Xabad do you even read before your response. Point # 2 was exactly that. I guess this Is not your cup of tea. As you said in your first comment, leave these to others No, you said the whole of Mudug. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galbeedi Posted December 6, 2015 That will divide the city in two and create problems. Galmudug means 25% of Gaalkacayo and two districts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xabad Posted December 6, 2015 So, your suggestion is to wrest North Mudug from PL against the wishes of its inhabitants and forcefully put them in union with people whom they have been warring since the civil war to create a new federal state. Fanciful! That is why i said in the beginning your not sincere. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mooge Posted December 6, 2015 galbeedi niyoow, the best solution is for Puntland to forcefully bring baraxley district under puntland rule. give them local council members, or even vice mayor and let them join puntland. niyoow we can't have outlaw terrorists using baraxley as their base to hunt elders daily and run to the black hole district. the district is full of criminal gangs, shabab terrorist, black market drug sellers, etc. it is the underworld capital of the country and HAG is using it because they know they can cause trouble and odeyal will say let us have peace. this is unacceptalbe niyoow. niyoow these people must be brought under puntland control and the district cleaned up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miyir Posted December 7, 2015 <cite> @xabad said:</cite> Fanciful! That is why i said in the beginning your not sincere. You noticed too, I suspect it has to do with growing under dictator. it effects people's communication and expression, everyone can see through the hypocrisy but no ones calls out due to the risk associated when living under dictator. unfortunately some people never grow out and end up being ridiculed for the double speak. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xabad Posted December 7, 2015 <cite> @galbeedi said:</cite> Also, one issue that can not be ignored is Dam Jadiid . They are maneuvering and creating wars to gerrymander their 2016 agenda. There you go, Culusow is instigating this clashes against PL. His prescription, dismantle PL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
malistar2012 Posted December 7, 2015 Forgot to Mention Galmudug was created 9 years ago it was before Xasan sheikh Government P.s Mooge Pirates are not strong enough fight Lions of Somalia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xabad Posted December 7, 2015 <cite> @malistar2012 said:</cite> Forgot to Mention Galmudug was created 9 years ago it was before Xasan sheikh Government P.s Mooge Pirates are not strong enough fight Lions of Somalia Mooryan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites