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Baashi   

Mintid Farayar;983570 wrote:
Speaking of parallel universes, it was because of desertification(according to our friends above) that Somali charcoal was banned by the Security Council, as well as the U.S. government.

 

Here's an excerpt from Reuters:

'The Security Council banned the export of charcoal from Somalia in February 2012 to cut off one of the main sources of income for al Shabaab, which has been fighting for control of Somalia for years and enforces a strict version of sharia law in the areas it occupies.'

 

Meanwhile, the U.S. government piled on with this:

'President Barack Obama has targeted the export of charcoal from war-torn Somalia, the sales of which help finance an al Qaeda-affiliated group, the State Department said Friday.'

 

But good old Baashe would have us believe it's because of
environmental concern
that the world has become so concerned with Somalia's charcoal industry.

 

I wonder who's spinning, or maybe
smoking what
;)

 

 

P.S. It's interesting to see some still nursing the 'wounds' from the forgotten (till now) charcoal debate.
Stiffen that spine, gentlemen
, .....
Tomorrow is a brand new day
;)

^ :)

 

Charcoal might not banned due to decertification but it has nothing to do with the emergence of JL. You are not out of the woods yet bud :) That said, I relied on recollection there.

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Baashi;983571 wrote:
^
:)

 

Charcoal might not banned due to decertification but it has nothing to do with the emergence of JL. You are not out of the woods yet bud
:)
That said, I relied on recollection there.

LOL...

 

Since you brought up the old 'charcoal' thread, let me rub some friendly salt in the wound ;)

 

Here's the main editorial this week from the lips of the influential Bloomberg Financial News Service.

After reading it, return to our old 'charcoal' thread and see if it now makes sense to you.

 

Aaaah, if I could only get paid for this free education I provide to certain corners......

 

 

 

______________________________________________________________________

To Fight al-Shabaab, Clean Up Somalia

By the Editors Oct 28, 2013 2:00 AM GMT+0400

 

In the wake of the barbarous attack on Kenya’s Westgate shopping mall last month, United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon wants decisive action against the group responsible for at least 67 deaths, the Somalia-based al-Shabaab.

He proposes adding 4,000 African Union troops to the 18,000 already in Somalia and providing the forces with attack helicopters and other advanced equipment so they can pursue al-Shabaab in its sanctuaries in the rural south.

The idea sounds reasonable. In addition to attacking Kenya, al-Shabaab struck Uganda in 2010, killing more than 70 people, and this year it has repeatedly assaulted Somalia’s capital, Mogadishu. The group controls parts of southern Somalia, including the port of Baraawe, from which U.S. commandos retreated under fire earlier this month, having failed to capture an al-Shabaab commander.

Before the UN expands the role of the AU troops, however, it should first work to clean up the mission. One of its components, the 4,600-strong Kenyan contingent, has been a force for ill as much as good in the effort to stabilize Somalia; its corruption is even helping to enrich al-Shabaab.

The Kenyan troops have been instrumental in ejecting al-Shabaab from its urban strongholds, notably the city of Kismayo in September 2012. The port had been key to al-Shabaab’s $25 million a year in earnings from the export of charcoal made from acacia trees. The razing of trees for this trade has turned lush areas of Somalia into deserts, which contributed to a famine in 2010 and 2011 that killed 260,000 people, according to the UN’s estimate. In 2012, the UN Security Council banned the import and export of Somali charcoal.

One might have expected the Kenyans, once in control of Kismayo, to enforce the export ban. Instead, they collaborated with the Ras Kamboni militia led by a former al-Shabaab ally to increase violations. By July 2013, Somalia’s charcoal exports had risen 140 percent.

The trade at Kismayo is divided between Kenyan business interests, Ras Kamboni and, astonishingly, al-Shabaab. People connected to the group control a third of the exports, and al-Shabaab continues to tax trucks heading to Kismayo. With the income from exports from Baraawe, the charcoal trade is earning al-Shabaab more than ever, the UN estimates.

So before pushing to expand the AU force -- which the UN supports logistically -- Ban should first require that the Kenyan contingent respect the charcoal sanctions. The U.S., which has provided training and other assistance for the Kenyans, and the European Union, which pays their allowances, should second the demand.

Ending the Kenyans’ corruption is essential to repairing the AU mission’s credibility, as well as the UN’s. Cutting off al-Shabaab’s charcoal profits would also make the group more vulnerable to Ban’s proposed assault on its remaining refuges.

 

 

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-27/combating-corruption-in-somalia.html

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Oodweyne, qoor iyo xero ka daba gaallee :D

 

 

D waa laga adkaaday bay kaga dhegtay , waa nin 1970 dalka ka tegay war ma hayo.

 

See looga adkaada when you have Mr.Madoobe in Kismayo, Faroole in Garoowe, and Mr. Saacid in Mogadishu :D

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^^Awoowe is fahannay :D

 

But understand one thing: current IC thinking, AMISOM objectives, and neighboring countries needs and interests in Somalia are favoring the very objectives of the folks you are so adamant to write off. That is to say, federalism, a political insurance product developed by Puntland to mitigate the lost trust, enjoys support among the stakeholders I mentioned.

 

You need to think why instead of reading the last rites to a man who is strong in health and power :D

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Baashi   

Xaashaa. No insults awoowe. None is given or intended. Af lagaado xaal ina rag ma aha.

 

Your posts are dotted with occasional outthrusts that are clearly delusional and could only be penned by someone who have the disorder.

 

Objective and informed folks would admit however biased they may be that Somali civil war had reached an impasse or stalemate if you will. Facts would cooperate with that statement and they could point out with ease that resolution to this tragic conflict between Somali clans seemed difficult and actually IS without foreign intervention.

 

But to you there are imaginary facts and parallel realities only you are privy to where the civil war is over and the contest is won by one side. And the other variation to this delusional outburst is the folks who populate Mogadishu think that way.

 

Now you are shifting gears and you are in the mood to latch on yet another false scenario. You seem to be saying that federal system in which Hassan admin draws his legitimacy from is not a binding constitutional article. Or they, folks in Benadir, have the majority of the votes (yet unfounded argument) to alter the constitution in order to annul federal articles. Get a grip bud.

 

Using Mark Twain’s exhortation, Baashi is telling you “it ain’t so”

 

Awoowe we are not getting far on this -- and come to think of it I would go farther and say we are not even having a debate here. You’re repeating yourself and adding new unfounded emphasis with your old tirade. I am keep on reading posts that could only be written by either someone who is not aware of the actualities on the ground or someone who is completely out of his mind. If you haven’t noticed we are talking past each other 

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Baashi   

Oodweyne;983725 wrote:
Baashi
,..
:D
:D

All in all, I think we done this particular thread to dearth; and with that I think it’s best to give it a decent send-off into the netherworld.

Good call :) Agreed.

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