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western law is superior to Somali law just as western medicine, technology, and ideas are. i say lets fully westernize, what use is there in re inventing the wheel.

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Blackflash;960886 wrote:
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The hypocrisy of calling the irreligious brainwashed is too much for me. Don't denigrate others for having the balls to say aloud what you choose to ignore.

Choose to ignore what? Excuse me, but I've chosen to accept reality and not submit myself to the whims of legislators and focusing my entire worldly outlook on their beliefs. You are brainwashed, it's simple. Brainwashed to accept the notion that somehow Western Liberalism is inherently superior to Islamic values

 

The hypocrisy of men such as Blackflash, who actually believe that Muslims are brainwashed, but those who submit themselves to another belief system are somehow not-brainwashed?

 

Unlike men such as yourself, we Muslims actually have rational reasons behind our beliefs adn values, and if we Muslims actually practiced Islam the way it should be practiced, our nations would be by far the most advanced civilization on Earth today.

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Haatu;960954 wrote:
Somali women are in this situation because of cultural practices that limit their rights (i.e. let the girls wash dishes) not Islam. You're just a one-trick-pony, shallow fellow who only knows hows to badmouth Islam. Have you no other hobbies in life? If you left the religion because you were so dissatisfied with it, why do you constantly talk about it?

Because he is a coward who calls other people ugly, while hiding behind a mask!

 

Haatu, I think it's obvious that Blackflash is a man who's comfortable in bashing Islam whenever he sees the opportunity, but he himself has never outlined any objective standard by which to judge Islam. If I were to show him evidences to prove how Islamic Values are superior to any of the Western Liberal values he probably upholds, he would ignore me and then repeat his old-arguments.

 

It's actually tiresome to listen to him. How on Earth can I discuss anything with a man who's so arrogant that he chooses to ignore reality?

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Haatu   

warsamaale;961022 wrote:
Yes western liberalism is incomparably superior to islamic values.
. read that link and wonder why religion has such bad rap dr kenny.

What's the Islamic stance on such an issue first of all? Is what the boy said a crime Islamically or is this a scare tactic being used by the takfiris to frighten the population?

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Haatu;961026 wrote:
What's the Islamic stance on such an issue first of all? Is what the boy said a crime Islamically or is this a scare tactic being used by the takfiris to frighten the population?

Don't bother replying to him. I don't know who this man "warsamaale" is, but I see no point in discussing anything with him. After seeing that last post he made, he doesn't deserve to be taken seriously. He sounds just like Ann Coulter.....in other words: He's full of it.

 

In his words:

 

If a group of rebels decide to execute a teenage boy because of something he said, So then I'm gonna link these group of rebels to their religion (regardless of whether Islam permits such behavior or not), and then reach the conclusion that Islam orders such behavior, even though it doesn't.

 

 

Yeah....Ignore him. He should be relegated to the sidelines of SOL.

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Reeyo   

Wadani;960816 wrote:
Equal how? and in what ways? Throwing around the amorphous term 'equal' without backing it up with concrete observable and emprically verifiable facts is meaningless.

Observable and empirically verifiable facts?

 

What are we discussing here, a scientific experiment or Somali social attitudes towards women?

 

My observation and personal experience is all I've got mate. I fought tooth and nail for my postgraduate education, my travel experiences and a lot of other rights in my personal life. I believe our mothers and elderly females need to recognize themselves as oppresses instead of being obsessed with maintaining the shallow image of the obedient Muslim girl that breed for to be pregnant and maintain a household.

 

And what is with this fear of this word, equal? every man shakes in his boots when a Muslim female mentions the obvious, I am equal to you.

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Reeyo;961043 wrote:
Observable and empirically verifiable facts?

 

What are we discussing here, a scientific experiment or Somali social attitudes towards women?

 

My observation and personal experience is all I've got mate. I fought tooth and nail for my postgraduate education, my travel experiences and a lot of other rights in my personal life. I believe our mothers and elderly females need to recognize themselves as oppresses instead of being obsessed with maintaining the shallow image of the obedient Muslim girl that breed for to be pregnant and maintain a household.

 

And what is with this fear of this word, equal? every man shakes in his boots when a Muslim female mentions the obvious, I am equal to you.

I agree with you 100% Reeyo

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Haatu   

Reeyo, no one is denying you that as it's all your basic rights but we're against radical feminists and the un-Islamic, un-Somali principles they stand for.

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Safferz   

Reeyo;961043 wrote:
Observable and empirically verifiable facts?

 

What are we discussing here, a scientific experiment or Somali social attitudes towards women?

 

My observation and personal experience is all I've got mate. I fought tooth and nail for my postgraduate education, my travel experiences and a lot of other rights in my personal life. I believe our mothers and elderly females need to recognize themselves as oppresses instead of being obsessed with maintaining the shallow image of the obedient Muslim girl that breed for to be pregnant and maintain a household.

 

And what is with this fear of this word, equal? every man shakes in his boots when a Muslim female mentions the obvious, I am equal to you.

Well said, Reeyo.

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Apophis   

Equal in what sense though? Physically or mentally? And which one should we base our "equal" analysis on, and why?

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Reeyo   

Doc, that's good to hear mate. It such an easy thing to understand- but a few will argue against such rationality.

 

Haatu- I dislike radical feminism too, but the thread was basically asking we look within our community and challenges these harsh social norms.

No good denying it in order to push away Western feminism.

 

Apophis: Do you want a dictionary definition? I am sure google can help there.

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Apophis   

@Reeyo: Then you must have meant mental equality. But isn't this similar to claiming that a coin has only 1 side?

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