oba hiloowlow Posted March 30, 2013 Jacpher;932249 wrote: You are either for the federalism within the constitution or you are against it. There is no pick and choose. sxb my state is coming up soon Shabelle state, Hiiraan,middle shabelle and Lower shabelle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ANWAR Posted March 30, 2013 Xaaji Xunjuf;932269 wrote: Naxar nugaleed, Hiiraan doesn't want to join with galguduud nor share a state with reer southern galkacyo, It's true, people from Galmudug and Galgadud have bad chemistry with people from Hiiraan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naxar Nugaaleed Posted March 30, 2013 and what would rer bay and bakool say about adding lower shabelle to your state abo lol and how about western galgadud, what do they want Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted March 30, 2013 Why dont people go a step further with clan federalism and name the state after the clan it self. Like in Ethiopia than we will exactly know where its heading. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naxar Nugaaleed Posted March 30, 2013 Xaaji, did you really think states would not be formed according to clans Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ANWAR Posted March 30, 2013 Cabdi Qaybdiid has been VERY busy with building glamudugs army and strengthening local governors power over its own territory,,, That is why it has been quiet around galmudug since he took over power Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted March 30, 2013 It will be a grave crime against the minority clans and the may may community if the HAG state takes the lower shabelle.The sahal community will legalize the 2 jubbas and gedo, and relocate sahal communities from NFD Somali galbeed to secure that state even from Puntland. The smaller clans in the dominated states by other tribes will have a hard time they will never have enough mps with in the local state. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ANWAR Posted March 30, 2013 HAG is not like the D-block or like Somalilanders ... HAG are chaotic and divided group, and they will be so forever Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waranle_Warrior Posted March 30, 2013 Xx, you speak as if the minority clans had it better before in central government or the 4.5 that we have now. Saaxib, there is nothing better than federalism that guarantees and safeguards the rights of the minority. It will give them the right to self rule. Also why would Puntland entertain the idea of getting Galgaduud and south mugud into its dominion. There is nothing there at all, no commercial ports, no big markets or anything significant, its an empty barren land. No man, thank you for the idea but you can keep Galgaduud and South Mudug away from Puntland, we don't need them to join us Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted March 30, 2013 No but back than they were equal as the rest, general samatar remember was the second in command of the nation. Now they will have less mps in every state the 4.5 undermines them to but i heard .5 bay ka dhigtay dawladan xassan. They will rule them selves the minorities in jamaame will be dominated by Sahal elites, and the may may community will come under the mercy of HAG Mullahs. The problem is mudug will mudug be divided the HAGs cannot form a state with their brothers in galguduud first they need to unite and later its still not enough. It will be very hard to implement Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted March 31, 2013 *ANWAR*;932291 wrote: HAG is not like the D-block or like Somalilanders ... HAG are chaotic and divided group, and they will be so forever speak for yourself inaar. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ANWAR Posted March 31, 2013 ^^Yes. I speak for myself.. but that is reality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted March 31, 2013 Anwar not at all, currently your habar is all that and u know what u guys are ruining it for the rest of us marka get your shid together Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ANWAR Posted March 31, 2013 Dude I will personally go to Galmudug and fix the Shid up... but Mash Allah Cabdi Qaybdiid as done a lot this year Governors in galmudug have not had so much power as now for a long time, thanks to Qaybdiid and Amninga are in place in every corner of galmudug Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted March 31, 2013 Great inaar saas ban isku ognahay. Good to hear that qeybdiid is making progress in Galmudug Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites