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This is political grandstanding IMO. Cameron wants to assert Britain's foreign policy and continue to appear relevant vis-a-vis their defense cuts. Not dissimilar to their decisions to take all the press for the Libyan intervention( along with Sarkozy). Seriously doubt they have any real strategic interests, security or economic here. Also the ambassador took the jet right back to Nairobi after the show was over and he will be based from there.

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Turkiga maxaa laga cabsanoyaa. I hope inay kuwaas calool u shaqeystiyaasha hoggaanka Soomaalida sheegta iloowin Turkiga abaalkee galeen if lagu dhaho iska iloowa Turkiga, which I believe this sudden interest of Ingiriiska is all about -- a sheer political counterweight against Turkiga. Just making sure Turkiga won't have a long-term foothold in Soomaaliya. Ingiriis waligiis Soomaaliya iyo Soomaalida degtaba uma nixin, from handing out NFD and Hawdka to Kiinyaatiga iyo Xabashada respectively to now.

 

And this non-resident ambassador muxuu soo kordhinaa since he will live in Nayroobi?

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Let's not e short sighted here. Britian is still an important nation who has a large Somali community residing there. The fact that it has taken an interest in our affairs and has reopened diplomatic relations is a step in the right direction. The fact that they have also marginalized the secessionists is also most welcome.

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Sensei;784211 wrote:
^Good God! Read the comments below the article(Maadeey's) & Brits seem little pissed.

Lol, never ever read the comments. this should be included in the new manual for the interwebs

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Duke, "marginalized the secessionists" lool come on old boy lets face it UK is begging Somaliland to show up to their meeting. Thats a fact dont drink the cool aid of hating somaliland to blind you on the facts :0

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Freedom;784308 wrote:
Duke, "marginalized the secessionists" lool come on old boy lets face it UK is begging Somaliland to show up to their meeting. Thats a fact dont drink the cool aid of hating somaliland to blind you on the facts :0

 

LOL this is the height of delusion goodness me. You think Somaliland holds political leverage over the UK?

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^^^ Who are the UK diplomats begging to show up, The TFG president said were sorry to Somaliland, please the righting is on the wall, people on the hate cool aid cant see that, i hope thats not you to Gold lol.

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Freedom;784313 wrote:
^^^ Who are the UK diplomats begging to show up, The TFG president said were sorry to Somaliland, please the righting is on the wall, people on the hate cool aid cant see that, i hope thats not you to Gold lol.

I think this conference is more about Britain's own prestige than it does Somalia. That being said I have no idea how you think any Somali entity has leverage of the British. Explain to me how Somaliland, a major recipient of British aid and an entity that needs any international support for its political aims that it can get, has leverage of Britain? Do you really think SL can dictate terms to the Brits, one of the only major powers that has politicians somewhat receptive to your cause?

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The leverage Somaliland has is its reputation in the region. Somaliland only Somali speaking area with free political parties, two amazing elections seen by the world has free and fair and strong reputation for its conflict resolution skills. How on earth would the UK not want to have its former territory the most shining example of Democracy not there! Please come on that would be embarrassing for the UK. Please UK has large Somaliland Diaspora there too which is strong voting block as well.

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Freedom;784327 wrote:
The leverage Somaliland has is its reputation in the region. Somaliland only Somali speaking area with free political parties, two amazing elections seen by the world has free and fair and strong reputation for its conflict resolution skills. How on earth would the UK not want to have its former territory the most shining example of Democracy not there! Please come on that would be embarrassing for the UK. Please UK has large Somaliland Diaspora there too which is strong voting block as well.

True that. Now lets hope it uses its leverage for the common interest.

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What leverage? The secessionist delusions are getting even worse. They want Ethiopia to arrest Ali Khalif for them. They also belive that William Hague visited Mogadishu in order to put pressure on them to attend the meeting in London. The British thus are opening an Embassy in Mogadishu and sending the deputy ambassador to Ethiopia to Hargaysa out of love and to show the rest of Somalia the importance of the SNM...

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Somalia: Hague's action warning in Somalia

2 Feb 2, 2012 - 8:09:38 AM

 

William Hague has warned more action is needed to tackle the terrorist threat from Somalia as he became the first British Foreign Secretary to visit the strife-torn African nation for 20 years.

 

Mr Hague said dealing with militant Islamists who have made the country their base "matters a lot" to the security of the United Kingdom.

 

His arrival in the capital, Mogadishu, marked the start of a major diplomatic push by Britain to help stabilise a country he described as "the world's most failed state". The Government is hosting an international conference in London on Somalia later this month and Mr Hague said counter-terrorism co-operation would be high on the agenda.

 

Security in the capital has improved since an offensive last year by a 10,000-strong African Union force in the country (Amisom) drove the jihadists of al Shabaab out of the city. Nevertheless suicide bombings, improvised explosive devices and grenade attacks remain regular occurrences while al Shabaab - which has links with al Qaida - still controls much of southern Somalia.

 

At the same time pirates continue to prey on international shipping passing through Somali waters, while the region still has more than a million refugees forced to flee their homes by famine.

 

The dangers were underlined by the tight security arrangements surrounding Mr Hague's short, 10-minute journey from Amison's base at the airport to the residence of President Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed. The Foreign Secretary and his entourage were required to don body armour and helmets and travelled in a small convoy of armoured vehicles manned by Amisom soldiers.

 

With the director general of MI5 Jonathan Evans having warned in 2010 of the threat posed to the UK by terrorists trained in al Shabaab's camps, Mr Hague said there must be no let up now in the pressure. "One of the objectives of our conference in London is to strengthen counter-terrorism co-operation, to make it easier for countries in this region to disrupt terrorist networks, to disrupt their financing and the movements of potential terrorists," he said.

 

His warning of the dangers to the UK were echoed by the Mayor of Mogadishu, Mohamoud Ahmed Nur, who said that with 350,000 Somalis living in the UK, the Government could not afford to ignore the problem. He said disaffected young British Somalis were already travelling to Somalia to seek terrorist training before returning to Britain with "revenge in their hearts".

 

Despite the continuing problems, ministers in London believe the success of the Amisom offensive has opened up a window of opportunity. At the same time, Mr Hague said the approaching end of the transitional government arrangement in August also pointed to the need for progress.

 

Following his meeting with the president, Mr Hague announced the appointment of Matt Baugh as the first British ambassador to Somalia since 1991 when the country collapsed into chaos and civil war. He also confirmed the Government's intention to build a new British embassy in Somalia once security conditions allow - although for now Mr Baugh will operate out of the British High Commission in neighbouring Kenya.

 

Source: Associated Press

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General Duke;784360 wrote:
What leverage? The secessionist delusions are getting even worse. They want Ethiopia to arrest Ali Khalif for them. They also belive that William Hague visited Mogadishu in order to put pressure on them to attend the meeting in London. The British thus are opening an Embassy in Mogadishu and sending the deputy ambassador to Ethiopia to Hargaysa out of love and to show the rest of Somalia the importance of the SNM...

Its a fact that the foreign office sent repeated letters for Somaliland to attend to the extent that they have awarded them special status seperate from that of Somalia...i.e. we going to this conference for our own political and economic interest Somalia doesnt concern us...as for your embassy in Mugidsho i seriously think bax bax landers need to learn how to read...as although a british ambassador was named, no embassy will be built furthermore he will be based in nairobi...so son again you dukey boy are the one who is delusional... remember when yemen opened an embassy in mugdisho were did it go?? no where...what ever happened to the turkish embassy? nothing...the british are simply jumping on the band wagon even though they always refer Somalia as the worlds worst failed state....in time the world is just getting ready the AU and UN trusteeship chains about to be put on come August...:cool:

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