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UIC: Islamic movement or Tribal fervor:

 

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Birth of UIC

 

A mistake too often made by those examining UIC’s behavior in the Somali political theatre or when analyzing its stand against bringing African Union Peace keeping force in the country or interpreting their call for Jihad – is to assume that UIC’s are acting in good faith. Even their most trenchant critics can fall into this trap not to mention the oppressed average Somali person in the hands of the merciless warlords past 16 years.

 

Without prejudice, let us examine facts. The movement that brought down the Mogadishu’s powerful warlord’s club was none other than TFG bottom up approach. Movement spearheaded by the Government nominated Governor and Mayor of Mogadishu Mr. Hassan Adde Gaabow collaborated by traditional chieftains mainly from ****** clan. Clearly, it is part of our culture not render credit where its due.

 

With the help of IGAD member states, TFG pursued economic sanctions against warlords by shutting down their airports and movements. Governor / Mayor Adde outsmarted, humiliated and defeated Yalahow and Qanyare’s tempts of setting up parallel administration opposing his constitutionally nominated office. Thus, reduced their economic and political influence in Mogadishu. . According to Mogadishu’s civil society organs it was a matter of time to witness the collapse of warlord era in Mogadishu and Somalia.

 

It was Governor Adde, who early on engaged some members of the local tribal courts; currently known UIC to help him defeat the warlords. Called it bad calculation on Governor’s part or political naiveté. A group who benefited running under world business and were alleged behind the killings of many Somali intellectuals (Scholars, Army Generals and Business Leaders) in Mogadishu whom they found out of step or see challenge their way of Somalia, including the murderous killings of activist Abdulkadir Yahye, who got murdered in front of his wife and children in the wee hours of the morning. Not to mention twice attempts made on the life of the Prime Minister while visiting Mogadishu. And who can forget those suicide shocking pictures on the life of President of Somalia, followed by strings of suicide attempts in Baydhaba.

 

Sadly, the under world operators found and seized a new platform meant for bettering the lives of all Somalis, but, firstly, that of Mogadishu inhabitants. More importantly, warlords, after realizing the unclimbable growing tide against their grip on the neck of lean Somali people sought the backings of terror obsessed USA government and suddenly started pointing the true pictures of the tribal courts, whom they shared the prevention of rebirth of a viable Somali nation over the years. The rage of the common person initiated by the TFG, fuelled by governor Adde including that of tribal courts run over the warlords. Nevertheless, in nanno seconds, just before the ashes cooled down, the tribal courts seized / hijacked the movement and marginalized Governor Adde and all those who wanted to see the white starred blue flag wave confidently, once more.

 

 

 

TFG & UIC

 

The TFG following the agreed path of reconciliation extended olive branch and courted UIC to accept 7 point peace plan agreement in Khartoum, Sudan. Sadly, before the signed peace pages dried the UIC violated the most fundamental basis of the 7 point peace and confidence building measures by grapping more territories in the south and threatened the peace in the stable regions (Puntland & Somaliland). With that in mind, TFG continued peace efforts and dialogue with the UIC, hoping direct engagement might bear fruit.

 

Nonetheless, it is very clear Somalis alone cannot bring peace and stability in the country. Both internal and external factors are not allowing this peace to move forward. Whilst, it is the internal factor that most to blame. Called it low confidence, low infrastructure or low capacity. It is imperative to have some sort of intervention – we became (Rag iyo Dumar aan is indho buuxin).

 

The derogatory 4.5 formula of power divisions among the Somali clans was/is the best suited path for peace to come in our country. However, it sounds disgusting and primitive. It was the only formula to wheel the dragon forward. Former TFG President and now the poster child of UIC (Abdi Qasim Salad Hassan) participated both the letter and the spirit of the election /selection process. All of a sudden, it became a flawed process dictated by foreign interventionists.

 

To cover their hidden and masked intentions, UIC called Jihad to liberate Hargeysa, Boosaaso, Nairobi, Addis and all Muslim territories from advancing enemies. Thus far their achievements are limited to petty and minimal activities including closing sports bars and providing security who ever can afford Indho Adde’s well armed boys. Oops, how one can forget opening the great National Port. The catch is the keys to the port was handed to Abukar Omar Addani and his Benadir Corporation for financing the war. Meaning, Ceelmacaan and now Mogadishu ports are belonging to one group.

 

Islam is a religion of peace and we should be outraged when violence is associated with. My stomach crunches when western media portrays and links Islam the activities of a few. Equally, we should reject and desist when Islam is associated with violence by misguided power hungry individuals in our midst. Take a walk in down town Hargeysa or Boosaaso when Maghrib prayer is called. All Masjids are filled and half the people are praying outside the mosques, dutifully. Hence, we are all Muslims.

 

Finally, our solution lies the continuation of the collective tribal bargaining. It is the TFG which represents this process. Five years from now, our bargaining chips could move to regional identities. TFG is not a perfect institution. But it is the only vehicle sufficient for us to ride. Less desirable elements; currently on board may not be allowed to re-board when the right and merit politics are deployed. Today, it is Miro gunti ku jira, kuwo geed saaran looma daadiyo. Let the TFG do its mandate. Do not shed peace shed hatred.

 

 

 

A Abdi

 

Joburg, SA

 

Contact: Abdirahmanwa@yahoo.com

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This poor man needs as much help as he could receive. The fact that he accuses the ICU for the Baydhaba bombing, especially when they denied the accusations just proves that he is nothing more than a person who is mentally imprisoned by tribe hatred. And it is sad that they government can’t even stabilize the one city they control.

 

TFG were told to live Nairobi and do something for their country, they enjoyed the 5 star hotels where they were free to chew on khaat all day along.

 

And wasn’t it the same government who was outraged when the ICU outlawed Khaat? Instead of praising the ICU for doing such a good job they criticized them, what a bunch of sore-losers.

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Here is one highly regarded Shiek's view of ICU as opposed to the religiousity they seem to declare and also wear. This Shiek is convinced that fakery does more harm to the religion than its enemies.

 

"Shiek Ahmed Aben said on his part there are 29,600 mosques in Somali state only and added that the jihadists have also declared war on these mosques and the laity who do their prayers in them.

According to Sheik Ahmed, the people of Somali State are being administered under a federal system where they have their representatives and have also organized regional government, and on top of that its Sharia Courts are performing better than that of Mogadishu."

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^^^Where there is smoke usually there is fire. Those who make threats are the main suspects.

The Clan Court are they main suspects in these outrageous acts and they make idle threats in public, what may they plan in private?

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According to Sheik Ahmed, the people of Somali State are being administered under a federal system where they have their representatives and have also organized regional government, and on top of that its Sharia Courts are performing better than that of Mogadishu."

 

 

What state is he referring to, what federal system? Does he know that in a Muslim country the Sharia law shall be the ultimate law? The government itself should be Sharia based, not only the courts. All Muslim countries are required to uphold the Sharia.

 

Somalia is a country without a functioning government. I wouldn’t be surprised if he is from Puntland.

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Originally posted by mystic:

According to Sheik Ahmed, the people of Somali State are being administered under a federal system where they have their representatives and have also organized regional government, and on top of that its Sharia Courts are performing better than that of Mogadishu."

 

 

What state is he referring to, what federal system? Does he know that in a Muslim country the Sharia law shall be the ultimate law? The government itself should be Sharia based, not only the courts. All Muslim countries are required to uphold the Sharia.

 

Somalia is a country without a functioning government. I wouldn’t be surprised if he is from Puntland.

The Shiek is speaking about the Somali Regional State of Ethiopia. He is also speaking of the Federal system of the same country.

 

Are you telling the Shiek that the Sheria courts of the region he is talking about are less Islamic than the ones in Mugadishu? Or are you telling him that Hassan Tahir is more a shiek than he is?

Which is it?

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Somalifriend

 

What i was stating were quite simple, if you have reading complexities then that is your problem.

 

I thought the Sheikh was from Somalia, but since he is not i won’t expect the Ethiopian government to regulate by the Sharia law.

 

I told you that a Muslim nation should be ruled by a government who imposes the Sharia Law. The courts could only enforce minor laws if the government doesn’t agree with it.

 

And the least you could do is spell Sharia right

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mystic,

Sheria is the way its pronounced in ethiopia. I am not a linguist. I don't know how the Arabs or Farsi sound it, but I am sure of its sounding in Ethiopia.

 

I am willing to be corrected if you have historical background information to it, that we ethiopians pronounce it wrong.

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Jacpher   

Cadan maa laga heesaaya mise anigaa waalan? What does Ethiopian Sheikh got to do with Somalia problems? So the Sheikh is from Ethiopia but ethnically Somali? Is this some type of FATWA??

 

I’m sure you can find Sheikhs in America who may have different point of views on Iraq than the Sheikhs in Chechnya. Do you somehow think Muslims only go by what Sheikhs constitute?

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Originally posted by Somali_Friend:

mystic,

Sheria is the way its pronounced in ethiopia. I am not a linguist. I don't know how the Arabs or Farsi sound it, but I am sure of its sounding in Ethiopia.

 

I am willing to be corrected if you have historical background information to it, that we ethiopians pronounce it wrong.

The way you pronounce words and spell them are different.

 

You are now using the English Language and alphabet, not all words are spelled as they are pronounced!

 

Are you an Ethiopian or something? You could spell it two ways, one is ‘Sharia’ and the other one is ‘Shariah’

 

I truly don’t care how you Ethiopians pronounce it, you have to spell it right thou. ;)

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Originally posted by Jimcaale:

Cadan maa laga heesaaya mise anigaa waalan? What does Ethiopian Sheikh got to do with Somalia problems? So the Sheikh is from Ethiopia but ethnically Somali? Is this some type of FATWA??

Lets leave the FATWAs aside. The Shiek is stating the obvious. Some Shiek in Mugadishu has declared Jihad on him and his people.

Doesn't he have the right to state the facts as it pertains to Jihad from Mugadishu and what it means?

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Jabhad   

I was not surprised to hear such comments from sheikhs appointed by the Woyane/Tigree dictator.

 

Kenyan Muslims say:

 

Kenya's Muslim Leaders Will Not Cooperate in War Against Somalia

 

Kenya's Muslim Leaders Will Not Cooperate in War Against Somalia

By Alisha Ryu

Nairobi

27 November 2006

 

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Kenya

Muslim leaders in Kenya are warning the government against allowing foreign militaries to use Kenya as a staging ground for war against Islamists in neighboring Somalia. VOA Correspondent Alisha Ryu has details from our East Africa Bureau in Nairobi.

 

Kenyan Islamic leaders meeting in Nairobi say they believe the country is in danger of being dragged into the brewing conflict in neighboring Somalia and becoming another front in the U.S.-led war on terror.

 

The secretary general of the Council of Imams and Preachers of Kenya, Sheikh Muhammad Dor, tells VOA that Muslim leaders here are particularly concerned over reports they are hearing of tanks cited near the Ethiopian and Somali border, leading to speculation the Kenyan government may have allowed Ethiopia to move some of their heavy armored vehicles to the Somali border through towns in northern Kenya.

 

"What we are saying is that we have eyewitnesses, who saw military tanks. The tanks were in Mandera, Isiolo, Moyale and Garissa. This is not rumor," he said.

 

Moyale and Mandera are right on Kenya's border with Ethiopia. Isiola and Garissa are several hundred kilometers south of the Ethiopian border and far from the Somali border.

 

The sheikh acknowledges he cannot confirm that the tanks seen in northern Kenya belonged to the Ethiopian military, or that they were being deployed to battle Somalia's powerful Islamist forces.

 

Kenyan government officials vehemently deny that the country is being used for military activity against Somali Islamists, and have cautioned the Muslim leaders here from making statements the government says are "unpatriotic" and "unhelpful" to the situation in Somalia.

 

Since Islamists seized the Somali capital in June and began consolidating their power throughout southern and central Somalia, Ethiopia has accused leaders of the movement of being extremists with ties to terrorist groups.

 

Ethiopia admits that it has sent several hundred military advisors to support Somalia's secular, but weak interim government, which has its headquarters in the town of Baidoa. But it has steadfastly denied Islamist and U.N. claims that Addis Ababa has deployed thousands of combat troops in Somalia to protect the government from being toppled.

 

The Islamists have declared a holy war on Ethiopia, which is more than half Muslim and has a Christian leadership.

 

The Kenyan Muslim leader says Muslims in Kenya will not allow their country to be used in what he describes as "Christian plans" to attack Somalia to discredit and destroy the growing Islamist movement there.

 

"We will never support a Christian country, or a Christian army to fight against our Muslim brothers," said Dor. "We will not say how we are going to protect our Muslim brothers in Somalia, if any foreign country passes in Kenya. But we are telling you, we will definitely protect our Muslim brothers. Definitely."

 

Muslims make up about a quarter of Kenya's predominantly Christian population of nearly 36 million.

 

Since the September 11, 2001, attacks in the United States, tensions between Kenyan Muslims and Christians have been rising steadily, amid Muslim complaints of harassment and intimidation in the country's official efforts to combat terrorism.

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Mystic,

 

Calm down. You can spell it in any way to your hearts content. I will spell it the way I see fit. It has nothing to do with religiosity unless in ICU world is different rules.

 

Back to the thread.

The ICU declaration of Jihad on Negash is bogus and unIslamic. It was also declared by someone who is nothing, but an imposter in the person of Hassan Dihir/Tahir.

Do you have any comment on that?

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