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Saalax   

Thankful , it's because the folks in eastern sool and eastern sanaag are not that committed to the nation, how do you expect people who are not even committed to sland to lead?

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Thankful   

Libaahe*,

 

Look I am responding to JB (and the usual NW Somalia crowd), who post ridiculous topics, like this one. Revolving around how they are better than all others.

 

Yet, when confronted with a fair question about the monopoly in their enclave, they can't respond and either ignore the question or change the topic.

 

In NW Somalia you want a separate state, and one of the reason's being is that you did not like the unfair balance of power in the past and your treatment. So you proclaim that you have made a new country! However this new country is exactly what you complained about and has an unfair balance of power for one group. You see the irony in that? That all the opposition leaders running for president come from only one side, the rest are shut out! (Again, Riyaale was made vice-pres under the president from the dominant group and took over the job when he died).

 

Is that democracy? So should Puntland hold democratic elections like you guys have where the population cast a vote, but we make sure that the opposition leaders can only come from that "trinity gang" that Oodweyne talks about, and no one else is able to make up the opposition? As I stated before we had someone from Sanaag almost become president and lost in the third round.

 

Also, there were a candidates from Sool, one becoming vice president.....is Puntland's system the best?? Of course not, that is why they want to bring in different parties and one day the population casting votes. But I can guarantee you when we do have one person one vote election insha'Allah, we will never have only two opposition leaders from one group!

 

If you or anyone else thinks the international community and your beloved Brits aren't aware of the unfair make up of your elections, then you must be very naive! That's why I suspect you receive such little international press about it! It it's quite obvious that your elections are constructed in such a way to give one side the best chance of victory, while ensuring other have a Zero chance of winning.

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Caqli meeh ha taliyee. Raggaan hadaysan xoolaha la caqli ahayn bal yaa uga futa xun haddii Konfurta Somalia iyo macal Puntland gubato oo isla wada huraan ma waxay u malaynayaan in aay nabad ku joogayaan. Intaad balaayo walaalihiin u saadalineysaan yeysan idinku soo noqonin idinka.

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Saalax   

Thankful , that is besides the point the folks of eastern sanaag , eastern sool will not be trusted with the highest position as long as they are doing treasons against somaliland and not committing themselfs into the nation, dahir riyaale's peeps are equal partners because they stayed true to their original 1991 agreement with somaliland unlike some people who are keep flip-floping.

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bilan   

oo kaalay haday somalia ay sii gubato ma 3 xaafadood baa nabad ahaanaya, i have never seen dad ay xumaan saan uga buuxdo Allaha idin caafiyo waad buktaane.

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NASSIR   

^Well said Bilan! I'm quite amused by Thankful's comments playing the role of a devil's advocate on the "Somaliland" issue , perhaps to give this illegal entity a fine critical assessment of their claims on the regions of Sool and Sanaag, while arguing for their incorporation into the "Somaliland" long dead project.

If that is not giving a legitimacy to a self-styled tribal fiefdom within Somalia I don't know what it is. The self-contradiction and flip flop of terms, from "eastern Sanaag" to Sanaag after Libaahina applied a similar term to the region of Sool makes a perfect example of a novice learning his errors. Please note using the language of the secessionists as an attempt to score cheap points will not strengthen your position of neutrality but will rather reinforce the suspicion that an enemy's enemy is my friend.

It's time advocators of the balkanization of Somalia think of how to save and revive our republic, for this idea of federalism has even split one small city of Somalia into two hostile tribal camps, that a constant fear of killings and kidnappings have turned to be the rites of passage for its inhabitants.

 

Ps. Folks, I thought you would have first injected some sense into the seperatist minds of JB that the split of the Somali map is something that they desperately wish to see given their current powerlessness to extend their control or influence from Bur'o if it wasn't for that turncoat known as Haabsade. Hence their militia occupation of the city of Las Anod will be a short lived one, after which neither PL nor SL will be able to manipulate again the rightful owners of Sool region. Sanaag by contrast is a free and vast region of Somalia.

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Thankful   

Nassir,

 

I read the article in which Dhahar.com attempted to reject the UN Security Council report, and used the same argument of how Eastern Sanaag is a term used by NW Somalis. Which made no sense at all!

 

If you look at Sanaag, the place called Maakhir is on the eastern side of it. Which is also the area’s where NW Somalia ballot boxes cannot go? Sanaag may be free and vast, but it is not free for someone like Ilko-Jiir that only travelled to the eastern part of Sanaag and is barred from going to places outside of it. Just like the former Puntland Pres Cade was unable to go to the eastern part of sanaag and had to settle for Ceel Afweyne, Sanaag where control is in the hands of the NW Somalia enclave.

 

I have no clue why you or dhahar.com is upset with the term Eastern Sanaag. Puntland is the NE part of Somalia; Secessionists are in the NW part of Somalia. The south etc...Etc. I'm thinking that you don’t like the term because it seems as if it takes away from its unity. The fact remains Maakhir made a state out of a small portion of Sanaag because they have no control on the rest of the place!

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Originally posted by bilan:

oo kaalay haday somalia ay sii gubato ma 3 xaafadood baa nabad ahaanaya, i have never seen dad ay xumaan saan uga buuxdo Allaha idin caafiyo waad buktaane.

waxaad iska dhigeysa inanu anagu gubnay xammar iyo caasimadadi iyo dhulkaagi war adiga gubay, so hagajiso :D

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Oodweyne   

Originally Posted By Mr. Nassir
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Sanaag by contrast is a free and vast region of Somalia.

Well, if ever there was a "desperate denial" of a given fact, then, what is written up there, could almost, without sweat, qualified as such thing, indeed, in the first place.

 

But, then, again, this is our Mr. Nassir, and his "magical believe" in thinking that what is there on the ground of Sanaag in general and in Erigavo specifically, could be made a non-existence reality, if only one were to keep repeating endlessly one's "miserable fallacies" right here of SOL, indeed... smile.gif

 

Hence, it's no use showing him a pictures of recent electioneering rallies in that region in general and Erigavo in specifically; particularly with the likes of Mr. Rayale, and Mr. F. Warabe, taking part in the rallies that was held in that city.

 

Since, to him, some of those activities, still bespoke, that Sanaag is a region that is outside of Somaliland's control... :rolleyes:

 

I almost really feel sorry for this friend of ours; since, to him, he seemed to be reduced telling blatant political porkies to himself. Just so that his "wounded clannish pride" will not troubled him, inordinately, or at least excessively, in most night out there in California, of all places, indeed.... ;)

 

Regards,

Oodweyne.

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Juje   

Originally posted by Jacaylbaro:

quote: Is that what Somaliland depends on, the misery of the rest of Somalia?

Not exactly ,,, sadly it is the reality ,,
t

 

At least your honest JB unlike Ood.

But tell me sxb much of Somalia has been in turmoil in the last two decades what has been keeping you from attaining recognition then?

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quote:

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Originally posted by Jacaylbaro:

 

quote:

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Is that what Somaliland depends on, the misery of the rest of Somalia?

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Not exactly ,,, sadly it is the reality ,,

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t

 

At least your honest JB unlike Ood.

But tell me sxb much of Somalia has been in turmoil in the last two decades what has been keeping you from attaining recognition then?

 

 

It's the damn south man

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Saalax   

Thankful, the reason dhaharnews and other makhiri websites get upset about the term "Eastern Sanaag" is they have a fear that they will isolated from the rest of sanaag if people using that term lol.

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Originally posted by Juje:

quote:Originally posted by Jacaylbaro:

quote:

Is that what Somaliland depends on, the misery of the rest of Somalia?

Not exactly ,,, sadly it is the reality ,,
t

 

At least your honest JB unlike Ood.

But tell me sxb much of Somalia has been in turmoil in the last two decades what has been keeping you from attaining recognition then?
It is not a Chocolate cake sold by Mubarak Supermarket ,,,, It is politics, it is a long process. But we're getting closer each day.

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Originally posted by Jacaylbaro:

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The background of Somaliland looks much alike with Kulmiye flag was that intentional or not :D

 

anyways my fellow SOL anarchists still miss the point.

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Juje   

Originally posted by Jacaylbaro:

It is not a Chocolate cake sold by Mubarak Supermarket ,,,, It is politics, it is a long process. But we're getting closer each day.

 

What are you getting closer to sxb 'recognition' or to the extinction of Somali State?

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