Sharif Ahmed Xasan Dahir should be Indicted for war crimes

[General Duke]

Emperor: This thread and others will delve deep into these two criminals past.

 

So far we have clear violations of human rights.

 

Leading militias into war in heavily populated areas.

 

Even today who shelled the Bakara market?

[Naxar Nugaaleed]

though i don't care for either shariif or awais guy, i am sick the blink of eye shifting of loyalties among Somalis. NO nothing should be done to Shariif, he is fighting for his life and the life of the government he heads from an aggressor who got that chance do so thanks to the magnanimity of Shariif. If all the constant hullabaloo of "we want stability and government" is to be given any credibility, Somalis at the very least should send a resounding message of rejection and denunciation of the acts of this psychopathic opportunist and his cult of misguided former mo*yaans and lunatics the fringes of the Islamic world.

 

I read often articles by sites like hiiraan and can't help but get irked by journalistic neutrality run-amaok. Latest for example blaming both shariif and awais for the blight of people in Mogadishu when its painfully clear who is the aggressor and is responsible for this.

 

They say, you can't be neutral in a moving train. Somalia is a moving train. Whats worse then being a supporter of those terrorist named shabab, is to feign neutrality because you will get hit by that train.

[General Duke]

NN: I dont muc care for both but the blame is on both. Sharif AHmed lead, funded and encouraged those ****** for the past 5 years. Now he is shelling the city and has to answer for such crimes.

 

Xasan dahir is our very own Hitler. Though Hitler was much more braver

[Naxar Nugaaleed]

Originally posted by Recovering-Romantics :

quote:Originally posted by Emperor:

Seriously people, Duke is only a member of this site and a not major player in the Somali plitics, will you stop dwelling on his character and rather deal with the topic at hand, deal with the message and thepoint made in the thread... hadii kale, Duke kuwaasha...

 

Duke, you made a great point and Hassan Dahir's crimes are more than you listed, start from the days he initiated conflict and spread fitnah in the early nineties in Kismaayo, Puntland, Gedo and all over Somalia...

Oh really?

 

The man you and Duke worship, has been committing massacres in Somalia since 1977. 16 thousand people died in Mogadishu as a result of Abdullahi Yusuf's war against the people of Mogadishu.

 

In the history of Somalia, there was NO-Body who was more bloodthirsty and fanatical as Abdullahi Yusuf.

 

We are reminded this every-time we see the sad state of affairs in our country. Good thing he is a refugee in Yemen but his legacy will haunt us for a long-time.

RR, I see your delusions are not limited to Duke. A yusuf was not blood thirsty leader let alone the most... You raise a valid point= Equating Shariif with his aggressor and charging him with war crimes for defending himself, his government and the citizens he represents is an admission of supporting a war criminal on the part of a Yusufite because that is exactly what he did when he was in that position. Just don't kill it with hyperbole, its a derogation of your point.

[Naxar Nugaaleed]

Originally posted by General Duke:

NN: I dont muc care for both but the blame is on both. Sharif AHmed lead, funded and encouraged those ****** for the past 5 years. Now he is shelling the city and has to answer for such crimes.

 

Xasan dahir is our very own Hitler. Though Hitler was much more braver

You are right and wrong just as Shariifs history is is both noble and ignominious. Those of of who use to consider ourselves pro government and pro TFG admired the unlikely school teacher who not only stood against warlords who kidnapped one of his pupils but also inspired and lead a movement to rid that God forsaken capital of the violent leaches that plagued it and what was left of it's inhabitants for nearly two decades. Yet we saw him as a traitorous rebel when he took up arms against the government and did not negotiate in good faith. What ever we thought of him, Somalis of every stripe absolved him of any past crimes when they voted overwhelmingly to elect him President. True to the nature of Somalis, the little weasel (Nuur caade) who made all this possible is all but forgotten, not even getting a cabinet post in Sharifs government.

[BiLaaL]

Duke, given your stance on past 'war criminals' no one will take you seriously. Some of what you report in this thread, if true, is very concerning. All we ask is that you be consistent.

[Sherban Shabeel]

We all know what 99% Somalis think of Yusuf, so there's no need to go back and forth with Duke. He's just being loyal to his blood.

 

Back to the subject of this thread: I let you, my estranged brother, into my new house, hoping we can have a close bond and brotherly relationship. You SET IT ON FIRE, destroying all I've built, and then we're BOTH arsonists?

[Recovering-Romantics]

Originally posted by Naxar Nugaaleed:

quote:Originally posted by Recovering-Romantics :

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Originally posted by Emperor:

Seriously people, Duke is only a member of this site and a not major player in the Somali plitics, will you stop dwelling on his character and rather deal with the topic at hand, deal with the message and thepoint made in the thread... hadii kale, Duke kuwaasha...

 

Duke, you made a great point and Hassan Dahir's crimes are more than you listed, start from the days he initiated conflict and spread fitnah in the early nineties in Kismaayo, Puntland, Gedo and all over Somalia...

Oh really?

 

The man you and Duke worship, has been committing massacres in Somalia since 1977. 16 thousand people died in Mogadishu as a result of Abdullahi Yusuf's war against the people of Mogadishu.

 

In the history of Somalia, there was NO-Body who was more bloodthirsty and fanatical as Abdullahi Yusuf.

 

We are reminded this every-time we see the sad state of affairs in our country. Good thing he is a refugee in Yemen but his legacy will haunt us for a long-time.

RR, I see your delusions are not limited to Duke. A yusuf was not blood thirsty leader let alone the most... You raise a valid point= Equating Shariif with his aggressor and charging him with war crimes for defending himself, his government and the citizens he represents is an admission of supporting a war criminal on the part of a Yusufite because that is exactly what he did when he was in that position. Just don't kill it with hyperbole, its a derogation of your point.

Abdullahi Yusuf has been engaged in destabilizing behavior since 1977 being a tool of Ethiopia to topple the Siyad Barre regime. This is the man who massacred many innocent women and children in Balanbale in the 1980 and hoist the Ethiopian Flag on Somali territory. The same man who spend years in Ethiopian jail after they used and abused him.

 

The same man who is synonymous and brags about his ability to use the clan card more effectively than others. The same quisling who led the Ethiopian troops to Somalia massacring 16 thousand innocent women and children and displaced million others. The same man whose government was called out by Human Rights Watch and other reputable Human Rights Organizations for his crimes against humanity.

 

The same man Duke, Emperor and You defend to the bitter end simply because he shares clan name with you.

 

Not just Somalis understand Abdullahi Yusuf's criminal minded propensity. Even the International Community who placed him in Villa Somalia realized it; albeit too late. Hence, his current status as a refugee in Yemen.

[MZanzi]

sharif is another sellout just like Abdullahi yusuf

[General Duke]

^^^The issue here is simple, Sharif Ahmed & Xasan Dahir are the two key players who for what ever reason and excuse turned Mogadishu into a slaughter house.

 

None of you can refute these allegation since, the attack on Duke of SOL and on the former President.

 

The problem is that Duke & Yusuf are not fighting inside Mogadishu today. Since 2009 there has been hundreds killed in Mogadishu, and its the fault of the same individuals who were causing triuble under the guise of "Isalamic Courts" and "liberators" of Somalia.

 

They must be brought to justice..Everything else the anguish of the ignorant who thought suicide bombings were fun a year ago and now cry out, "extremist", at every turn.

[Naxar Nugaaleed]

People stop dwelling in the past. Fufu, sense you used Siad Barre image, its painfully obvious what you think A Yusuf. RR, tried to help you out in articulating your point but instead you dwell in attacking a by gone leader with facts and figures from your..., Move on, there are those who Think A Yusuf was the best think to come along sense sliced bread and others who think like you but regardless, that boat has sailed and let men retire in peace. SS, Neither "we" nor you know what 90 anything of Somalis think of A Yusuf or for that matter, anything so stop inventing stats.

Duke is not the facts some here take issue with but the conclusions you are drawing from them.

[Sherban Shabeel]

Let's have a poll then!

[Naxar Nugaaleed]

in order to determine that, you would need to know two things:

 

How many Somalis there are, pretty impossible but you can use estimates by reputable orgs like The UN or World factbook.

 

Second a randomly selected 10% of the population

 

If you do that with members of SOL, still you should interpret as "? % of SOL members believe/ think..."

 

With that, good luck buddy, anything other then that, please stop presenting your opinions as facts or statistics, goes for everyone. If I was a moderator, i would delete claims like the one you made.

[Somali Pirate]

duke is abdullahi yusuf's mouth piece. nothing more nothing less.

 

abdullahi yusuf has done more damage to somalia and xaamar than everybody else put together.

 

 

duke, your hero is nothing more an eithopian stooge. change your allegieance and serve your eithopian overlords.

 

For you are anything but somali

[Somali Pirate]

Originally posted by Recovering-Romantics :

quote:Originally posted by Naxar Nugaaleed:

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Originally posted by Recovering-Romantics :

quote:

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Originally posted by Emperor:

Seriously people, Duke is only a member of this site and a not major player in the Somali plitics, will you stop dwelling on his character and rather deal with the topic at hand, deal with the message and thepoint made in the thread... hadii kale, Duke kuwaasha...

 

Duke, you made a great point and Hassan Dahir's crimes are more than you listed, start from the days he initiated conflict and spread fitnah in the early nineties in Kismaayo, Puntland, Gedo and all over Somalia...

Oh really?

 

The man you and Duke worship, has been committing massacres in Somalia since 1977. 16 thousand people died in Mogadishu as a result of Abdullahi Yusuf's war against the people of Mogadishu.

 

In the history of Somalia, there was NO-Body who was more bloodthirsty and fanatical as Abdullahi Yusuf.

 

We are reminded this every-time we see the sad state of affairs in our country. Good thing he is a refugee in Yemen but his legacy will haunt us for a long-time.

RR, I see your delusions are not limited to Duke. A yusuf was not blood thirsty leader let alone the most... You raise a valid point= Equating Shariif with his aggressor and charging him with war crimes for defending himself, his government and the citizens he represents is an admission of supporting a war criminal on the part of a Yusufite because that is exactly what he did when he was in that position. Just don't kill it with hyperbole, its a derogation of your point.

Abdullahi Yusuf has been engaged in destabilizing behavior since 1977 being a tool of Ethiopia to topple the Siyad Barre regime. This is the man who massacred many innocent women and children in Balanbale in the 1980 and hoist the Ethiopian Flag on Somali territory. The same man who spend years in Ethiopian jail after they used and abused him.

 

The same man who is synonymous and brags about his ability to use the clan card more effectively than others. The same quisling who led the Ethiopian troops to Somalia massacring 16 thousand innocent women and children and displaced million others. The same man whose government was called out by Human Rights Watch and other reputable Human Rights Organizations for his crimes against humanity.

 

The same man Duke, Emperor and You defend to the bitter end simply because he shares clan name with you.

 

Not just Somalis understand Abdullahi Yusuf's criminal minded propensity. Even the International Community who placed him in Villa Somalia realized it; albeit too late. Hence, his current status as a refugee in Yemen.

recovering romantics,

 

nabi isa (AS) talked about people like duke and emperor in parables: He said 'they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand'