Australians fear Islam

[codetalker]

Funny that, even though the vast majority of Australia's immigrants come from non-Muslim countries, the Australians are panicking about a "Muslim Australia" within the next 50 years.

 

p.s. Did anyone read Christian Evangelical broadcaster Robertson's comments: "By the way, Islam is not a religion of peace." This old man is going bananas!

 

RU-486 Will Give Rise to Muslim Australia

 

by Joseph A. D'Agostino

Posted Mar 13, 2006

 

Australia recently took two important steps that may greatly influence her long-term future. One was the vote of her parliament last month to legalize RU-486, the human pesticide. The other is the stepped-up campaign by Prime Minister John Howard’s government against multiculturalism.

 

During an event meant to highlight opposition to RU-486, pro-life Danna Vale, a Member of Parliament and of Howard’s Liberal Party, spoke of the growing threat to Australia posed by abortion and Muslims. “I’ve actually read in the Daily Telegraph, where a certain imam from the Lakemba mosque actually said that Australia’s going to be a Muslim nation in 50 years’ time,†she said. “I didn’t believe him at the time, but you know, when you actually look at the birthrates and you look at the fact that we are aborting ourselves almost out of existence by 100,000 abortions every year, and that’s on a guesstimate, you multiply that by 50 years. That’s five million potential Australians we won’t have here.â€

 

Vale’s comment generated the usual politically correct denunciations, and she herself later admitted that she had been “clumsy.†“I was not speaking racially, despite the criticisms I have received from those sections of the media that act more like a fifth column rather than our fourth estate,†she wrote in an op-ed for The Age, February 25. “I was speaking demographically, even if, as I have already acknowledged, in a regrettably clumsy way. The focus of my concern was the disturbing fact that there are an estimated 80,000 to 100,000 abortions in Australia each year, a fact that does worry a majority of thinking Australians. A survey conducted by the Southern Cross Bioethics Institute found that 64% of Australians think the abortion rate is too high and 87% think it should be reduced.â€

 

Vale said that she was not criticizing Muslims’ relatively high fertility rates. “Muslim Australians value their children,†she wrote. “It is non-Muslim Australians who are not having enough children, a point well made by the Herald last week, which cited figures that exposed a fertility fault-line in Sydney from Cronulla to Castle Hill. The area west of that fault-line, south-western Sydney, has fertility rates more than double those in other areas. Last year around budget time, Treasurer Peter Costello encouraged Australian mothers to ‘have one for yourself, one for your husband and one for Australia.’ Sound advice.â€

 

Vale practices what she preaches. “Danna’s first two babies were born after very difficult pregnancies and when she became pregnant with her fourth child in the early 1970s, her third baby was only four months old,†says Gail Instance, Director of Family Life International-Australia. “Her obstetrician advised an abortion, which she refused. She told us that her decision then has been reaffirmed every day as she looks into the eyes of her youngest son.â€

 

It seems that the imam’s prediction is actually unlikely for Australia, whose immigrants—unlike those into many European nations—are mostly non-Muslim. And though the Muslim birthrate in Australia is at least 2.7 children per woman, far higher than the country average of 1.7, Muslims make up only 1.5% to 3% of the population. Most of Australia’s immigrants currently come from China and other non-Muslim nations. Yet if immigration patterns change, the imam could turn out to be right. And certainly, barring major policy changes, Australia’s Muslim population is going to become much larger and much more influential over the next few decades.

 

Why might immigration patterns change, making a Muslim Australia a real possibility? Because non-Muslim Third World populations, especially in China and other such Asian nations, now have low birthrates. Muslim countries have relatively high ones. Replacement rate is 2.1. Take two large, poor Muslim nations in Australia’s region: Malaysia, 2.6; and Indonesia, 2.2. These aren’t high birthrates, but at least they are above replacement—and thus these countries could become major sources of immigrants for Australia, whose native-born people have so few kids that immigration is necessary to keep the economy going.

 

Regardless of how Islamic Australia becomes, high rates of immigration, low birthrates among the native population, and the anti-assimilation multiculturalist ethos are changing the country’s character. Those who value Australia’s Western, English, ordered, and Christian-influenced culture should be concerned. Unfortunately, Australians aren’t concerned enough to produce their future generations. Howard and many other members of the Australian government want to reduce abortion and rescue marriage, and yet couldn’t prevent parliament from legalizing dangerous RU-486, which is ten times more likely to kill the aborting mother than surgical abortion. That’s a sign of hard-set pro-abortion feeling controlling the people’s representatives, and at a time when Australia needs many more children.

 

That’s why Howard and pro-life Health Minister Tony Abbott announced March 6 a plan to provide $51 million over four years for abortion alternatives counseling, including a 24-hour helpline. “The government does not support changing the abortion law nor does it support restricting Medicare funding for abortion,†they said in a joint press release. “Nevertheless, the government wants to give more support to women who are or have been uncertain about continuing a pregnancy.†Counseling will be given by those with no financial connection to abortion, and women can request to get more information from organizations of their choice.

 

“Our birthrate is below replacement and common sense tells us that we are committing national suicide,†says Instance. “Bob Santamaria said years ago that we had better make up our minds who we want to give this country to since we don’t seem to want it.â€

 

“While I respect Muslim support for pro-family and pro-marriage policies, especially at the UN, the negative side is that they also agree with polygamy, even in relatively moderate countries such as Malaysia and the Gulf Emirates,†says Babette Francis, head of the anti-feminist Endeavour Forum. “There is no doubt that the disciplined orthodoxy of Islam, prayers five times a day, clear strictures in regard to behavior, etc., are appealing to those who feel adrift in mainline Protestant churches, and to those who are ‘unchurched.’†Francis considers Islam to be a potentially serious threat. “The crucial problem is that we cannot rely on the division of Muslims into moderate good ones and terrorists,†she says. “There are devastating flaws in the religion of Islam itself and it will always be prone to terrorism and similar evils in a way that Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, and Hinduism are not.â€

 

Howard and Costello have announced that multiculturalism has got to go. Howard said that immigrants who do not “fit in†should not come to Australia, and Costello wants testing on cultural values before immigrants are allowed to stay in the country. In the meantime, radical Muslims in Australia are calling for jihad against their adopted nation’s own troops. Reported The Australian today, “’The Australian Government is part of a coalition that is inflicting untold horrors upon the Muslim world whether in Iraq or Afghanistan,’ the radical group’s spokesman, Wassim Doureihi, told The Australian yesterday. ‘There are bombs being dropped and there are children being killed and there are entire cities being uprooted.’†His group, Hizb ut-Tahrir, has praised suicide bombers and the like.

 

The simple fact is, any country with a sizeable Muslim population these days is likely to have problems with terrorists, murderers, and insurrectionists, not to mention polygamists and anti-Semites. No amount of politically correct platitudination can change that.

 

An increasing proportion of children being born worldwide are Muslim. So what does that mean for the future? Australia has decided to legalize the abortion pill while Muslims are against abortion. What does that indicate about the future character of the Australian nation?

 

Mr. D'Agostino, former Associate Editor of HUMAN EVENTS, is Vice President for Communications at the Population Research Institute.

[ElPunto]

Originally posted by codetalker:

The simple fact is, any country with a sizeable Muslim population these days is likely to have problems with terrorists, murderers, and insurrectionists, not to mention polygamists and anti-Semites. No amount of politically correct platitudination can change that.

 

An increasing proportion of children being born worldwide are Muslim. So what does that mean for the future? Australia has decided to legalize the abortion pill while Muslims are against abortion. What does that indicate about the future character of the Australian nation?

 

Mr. D'Agostino, former Associate Editor of HUMAN EVENTS, is Vice President for Communications at the Population Research Institute.

lol - good. White Austrialians should become extinct given views like this. Go Muslim Austrailia.

[Castro]

^ A morally bankrupt and racist ideology deserves nothing short of extinction.

[Maf Kees]

Those that think Australia, New Zealand, North America and even Europe will stay 'White and Clean' for eternity are doomed. They better let go of their cuqdad before it consumes them.

 

You hear (some) Whites everywhere talking about: Were losing, were losing the country. Well please tell me if White people are losing, than who the fck is winning? Not Yellow people, not Brown people and certainly not Black people.

 

So what are they compaining about? They started this irreversible change of this enormous world into a little village under their tutelage. They invaded other people's lands and either whiped them out or enslaved them. If they were lucky: maybe 2nd class citizens in their own land. Now they are noticing the side-effects of their brutal history.

 

You cannot have your cake and eat it.

[General Duke]

A nation built on a penal colony will never be able to compete with 1/2 the world. When ever I come across such comments I realise how strong we really are..

[BoiBoi]

"Dana Vale's" Comments were vulgar & Ignorant, but the recent publication has been used out of context by an American, ultra conservative internet publication.

 

The Declaration of Independence begins: "When in the course of HUMAN EVENTS. . . ." In reporting the news, HUMAN EVENTS is objective; it aims for accurate presentation of all the facts. But it is not impartial. It looks at events through eyes that favor limited constitutional government, local self-government, private enterprise and individual freedom. These are the principles that inspired our Founding Fathers. We think that today the same principles will preserve freedom in America.

[BoiBoi]

PM calls for calm in RU486 debate

 

February 14, 2006 - 8:34AM

 

Prime Minister John Howard has warned government MPs to keep cool heads in the abortion pill debate after Liberal backbencher Danna Vale's latest gaffe.

 

Mrs Vale, a former frontbencher who once called for an Anzac Cove-style theme park to be built on Victoria's Mornington Peninsula, sparked outrage with her claim that Australia could become a Muslim nation if the abortion rate went unchecked.

 

She said Australia was aborting itself out of existence and could be dominated by Muslims in 50 years' time unless parliament retained control over the controversial abortion-inducing drug RU486.

 

MPs from all sides of politics labelled her views as dopey and offensive, with Australian Democrats leader Lyn Allison calling for Mr Howard to force her to apologise.

 

Mr Howard issued a thinly-veiled warning to Mrs Vale at Tuesday morning's meeting of government MPs, asking members "to use measured statements" in the RU486 debate.

 

"He said that a sensible, dignified exercise of a free vote would reflect well on everyone," a joint parties spokesman said.

 

But senior government minister Amanda Vanstone didn't hold back, lambasting the dumped frontbencher.

 

"Apart from them being completely ill-founded, that's just a complete misunderstanding of how our migration program works and where our source countries are," Senator Vanstone told ABC radio.

 

"I think I'll invite Danna around for a cup of morning tea and perhaps a cucumber sandwich where I'll be able to point out to her that our intake at the moment, our source countries, are very much from the United Kingdom, New Zealand, China, India, South Africa and the Philippines."

 

Labor backbencher Daryl Melham said Mrs Vale's comments reeked of prejudice and ignorance, while opposition frontbencher Kelvin Thomson said they could foster religious intolerance and misunderstanding.

 

"There are people out there, fundamentalist zealots like Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda who are seeking to foment religious conflict and religious war," Mr Thomson said.

 

"I think our task as political leaders is to do everything we can to prevent them from being successful, and I think Mrs Vale has taken us in precisely the opposite direction."

 

Muslim leaders described the comments as irresponsible and racist.

 

"This is the most racist comment I have ever seen," Australian Federation of Islamic Councils president Amir Ali said.

 

"I think she has gone overboard, I think this should be condemned."

 

The outrage over Mrs Vale's comments came as MPs began debating a private members' bill which will strip Health Minister Tony Abbott of his power of approval over RU486.

 

Under the bill, Mr Abbott's ministerial control over the drug would be handed over to medical experts at the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA).

 

Queensland Liberal Andrew Laming has proposed an amendment to the bill that would give parliament the final say on any TGA decision to make the pill readily available in Australia.

 

The Australian Democrats say support for the amendment in the lower house could be strong enough to quash the original proposal.

 

Mr Laming, who has lobbied Labor MPs on the issue, says he may have enough support.

 

"I would call it knife-edge at the moment," he told AAP.

 

But at least one of his party colleagues is warning the move to grant parliament a say in the issue is "total insanity".

 

Dr Mal Washer, a former GP, said no drug company would bother bringing the abortion-inducing drug into Australia if they knew each time it was approved for use, parliament had to sign off on it.

 

"That, by the way, smacks of total insanity," he told AAP.

 

He said any potential sponsor of RU486 would be deterred by the thought of a "bunch of control freaks in parliament" debating the issue.

 

"If you're going to have parliament overturn the decision, no-one's going to fund it."

 

The cross-party sponsored private members' bill passed the Senate last week and an amendment similar to Mr Laming's failed there.

 

Liberal backbencher Jackie Kelly has also proposed an amendment which would retain Mr Abbott's veto but give parliament the final say.