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[Arafaat]

9 minutes ago, Che -Guevara said:

Sool changed the entire calculation!

 Sool and Muuse did, no denying that. 

But where one is celebrating to have achieved their goal (Sool), another is calling for more divisions and making even more enemies (Jeegaan/Heego). 

So the cup for deconstructing SL has to go to Heego/Jeegaan, sorry Sool but other team is not finished yet. 

[Che -Guevara]

3 minutes ago, Arafaat said:

 Sool and Muuse did, no denying that. 

Not to mention the entire democratic process was just dropped. A few men from one subclan made a decision and everyone accepted. No debates, consultations, nada

[Arafaat]

3 minutes ago, Che -Guevara said:

Not to mention the entire democratic process was just dropped. A few men from one subclan made a decision and everyone accepted. No debates, consultations, nada

Above all no Caqli and Rational thinking, that cup goes to Sool indeed. 

[maakhiri1]

Other than how Muuse handled SOOL, by trying to use brute force to subdue, which is technique they used in Hargaisa, and Borama, the biggest other mistake was messing with democratic process, it has to be untouchable, 5 years term, limited, not 1 minute extension

Heego/Jeegan are known to be VERY greedy, they wanted to milk , very selfish at the expense of SL democratic system

[Arafaat]

30 minutes ago, maakhiri1 said:

Other than how Muuse handled SOOL, by trying to use brute force to subdue, which is technique they used in Hargaisa, and Borama, the biggest other mistake was messing with democratic process, it has to be untouchable, 5 years term, limited, not 1 minute extension

Heego/Jeegan are known to be VERY greedy, they wanted to milk , very selfish at the expense of SL democratic system

That’s what you get when Business people leading the people and running the country. Not sure if the Unuka guys in Xamar and Deni are different though, maybe they have less hubris. 

[maakhiri1]

 

[maakhiri1]

why not unite the two movements?

 

[Arafaat]

1 minute ago, maakhiri1 said:

why not unite the two movements?

 

Makes much sense, and eventually they might perhaps once It’s clear Mogadishu politicians are focussed on South-Central Somalia and has no need in new States or unity for that matter, but only wants them waving the blue flag during 1 Luulyo. 

When can we expect to hear from Maakhir, it’s quite silent from those corners. 

[Game changer]

7 hours ago, Arafaat said:

HA has 3 governors while Harti has one, Grx has 20+ MPs while Harti doesn’t even have 4 or 5, let’s be frank here. 

Hrt had 4 governors prior the war , gebiley, xaysimo (, taleex) , buuhoodle and badhan.  They are also the majority in the guurti.   And gets equal share as GX  when it comes to other central government positions ministers directors iwm.  As far as I know they have 5 ministers.    So far only the governors left.  The Ministers , guurti and other hargeisa based civil servants are still active.    

[Game changer]

7 hours ago, Che -Guevara said:

Not to mention the entire democratic process was just dropped. A few men from one subclan made a decision and everyone accepted. No debates, consultations, nada

The system we have been practicing is not meant for isq unity.   It created problems between us and too much competition.   We gonna develop a new system that is suitable for us.  

[Game changer]

8 hours ago, Arafaat said:

Under Siilanyo it was all about broader Habro community, now your saying it’s every Habro for themselves, next year it’s every Abokor, Muse and Ismail for himself. Let the clanisation continue, see where one hits bottom.  

Just keep in mind somaliland has always been a role model for other somalis.   What ever happens in  somaliland will automatically happen in puntland , Jubaland , DDS and other multclan states .  Once we become selfish  and not caring about minority Voices,  other laandheeres will adopt the same policy.  In fact Mogadishu authorities are already practicing this method , and they rarely pay attention to who is protesting , even puntland is ignored in xamar .  Once MJs gets tired of these hrti gaagaabs , they too Will follow the trend and let them go.

In This way only those who are already strong Will get stronger.   And small clans will get weaker and neglected.   

 

[Arafaat]

2 hours ago, Game changer said:

Just keep in mind somaliland has always been a role model for other somalis.   What ever happens in  somaliland will automatically happen in puntland , Jubaland , DDS and other multclan states .  Once we become selfish  and not caring about minority Voices,  other laandheeres will adopt the same policy.  In fact Mogadishu authorities are already practicing this method , and they rarely pay attention to who is protesting , even puntland is ignored in xamar .  Once MJs gets tired of these hrti gaagaabs , they too Will follow the trend and let them go.

In This way only those who are already strong Will get stronger.   And small clans will get weaker and neglected.   

 

Muse already weakened and divided your sub-clan, politically, economically, and now your desperately looking for a way back on big chair, in meantime division will continue and you have new emerging civil war at your doorsteps, in Sanaag, and soon Oog, and Buhoodle. Your politicians are more divided then ever, and nothing can unite even on Mise they are divided. Let’s see what you gain from your new ‘politics’, and further sub-clan division. I can already see you crying in a year for Habro and Somali unity, Marku xaalku faraha ka baxdo. 

[Game changer]

26 minutes ago, Arafaat said:

Muse already weakened and divided your sub-clan, politically, economically, and now your desperately looking for a way back on big chair, in meantime division will continue and you have new emerging civil war at your doorsteps, in Sanaag, and soon Oog, and Buhoodle. Your politicians are more divided then ever, and nothing can unite even on Mise they are divided. Let’s see what you gain from your new ‘politics’, and further sub-clan division. I can already see you crying in a year for Habro and Somali unity, Marku xaalku faraha ka baxdo. 

What you don't understand is no durriyada sub Clan wants to leave somaliland ,  somaliland is like our child , we can fight over the the custody of the child  but none of us is willing to give up .  We HJs already destroyed the law,  Wixii isq isku waafaqsan yahay baa noo sharciya.  Walaalkayo galbeeedi weligiis kaalintiisa muran maanu gelin laakiin haduu isagu saaxada iska saarayo futadaanu kasii laadayna .   All resources of somaliland will belong to us.  Adiguba caqlaad leedahee maxaa Naga xumaaday ?

  Mjs , hutus , cagdheer , they will all copy the same policy.  Reerkii baxaya ha baxaan who cares. 

 

 

[Game changer]

Hadaan xaqiiqda kusoo dhawaado reerahan yaryaroo dhan dawladii kacaanka oo kale bay raadinayaan ee afka wax ugu guraysay ,  taasna weligeed ma dhacayso.  Hal option baa u banaan waa inay kulligood argagixiso noqdaan,  Oo ay alshabaab soo raacaan. Wayna yihiin ba  alshabaab. 

[Arafaat]

15 hours ago, Game changer said:

What you don't understand is no durriyada sub Clan wants to leave somaliland ,  somaliland is like our child , we can fight over the the custody of the child  but none of us is willing to give up .  We HJs already destroyed the law,  Wixii isq isku waafaqsan yahay baa noo sharciya.  Walaalkayo galbeeedi weligiis kaalintiisa muran maanu gelin laakiin haduu isagu saaxada iska saarayo futadaanu kasii laadayna .   All resources of somaliland will belong to us.  Adiguba caqlaad leedahee maxaa Naga xumaaday ?

  Mjs , hutus , cagdheer , they will all copy the same policy.  Reerkii baxaya ha baxaan who cares. 

 

 

What you’re preaching one moment is contrary to what you’re saying and actions of the next day,  that’s what wrong here. It’s schizophrenic! 

You can’t govern a country based on the emotional whips of a clan or individual supported by his clan, and one has to separate the two and choose whatever politics, laws and line of thinking one  has agreed upon, above what the boiling (clan) blood is dictating at that moment. 

One has to admit and fight to control this constant ‘cadifad’ that is taking over any discussion, argument, and issue at hand. 

And perhaps it would help if every government or political officials starts writing’ down everything, their speeches, comments, their discussions, their agreements, notes from their meetings, and to keep their mouths shut unless they have written down something on paper, for that should be the language, medium and standard to do things by.