Suldaanka

Somalia's inept Foreign Minister

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This dude actually thinks that everything will be hunkydory and business as usual. Ninkan waligii dad cadaan ah lama shaqayn ayay u badantay.

The IC's concerns and frustrations as shown in the open letters in the past week were a "notice". It seems, VillaAMISOM's actions may have hastened a more different response from the IC soon. 

We will wait and see. 

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Key points:

1. Persona-Non-Grata is used by countries that have very sour relationship or no relationship at all with the foreign state or body that they are expelling.

2. The Security Council have powerful mandate that they are the only body that can interfere in other countries' internal affairs. They can approve sending foreign troops into another country for example. 

3. SRSG are not typical diplomat. SRSG operate under Security Council resolution and carry out their mandate according to the resolution.

4. So far Nick Haysom has not been affected by Cheeseman' PNG-gate.

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Oodweyne   
1 hour ago, Suldaanka said:

2. The Security Council have powerful mandate that they are the only body that can interfere in other countries' internal affairs. They can approve sending foreign troops into another country for example. 

3. SRSG are not typical diplomat. SRSG operate under Security Council resolution and carry out their mandate according to the resolution.

Suldaanka,

I really do not think these collection of teeming incompetence in Villa Somalia actually know that the SRSG represent "officially" the Secretary General of the UN (UNSG). Whilst, on the other hand, "legally", he represent and report to the Security Council (UNSC).

And I mean that they do not know that "fine distinction" in the manner that is "akin" to the reality that says every primary school kid knows (or ought to know) what is the total sum of two plus two happens to be.

Consequently, they don't seems to know the "real political implication" of why the SRSG actually report in every few months to the UNSC specifically. And not to the General Assembly of the UN, given that the SRSG was officially appointed by the UNSG.

Moreover, as you have said it the UNSC are the ones who create the "legal mandate" in which any SRSG will operate-on under it, particularly in any country in which UNSG sends a new SRSG envoy across to them.

Which means, in diplomatic term, that the SRSG is not a mere trifling or some passing through other nation's diplomat, in which you can tell him to go away or pack his bags every-time you have a "run-in" with him, or fall-out with his country, diplomatically.

Hence, we shall see whether Uncle Sam (US) will want to open a "new chapter" in the UN, whereby any country that doesn't like any appointed envoy (say, new SRSG) can still got rid off him. And do so as a "recalcitrant country" with the "conniving-act" of some of the powerful and the permanent members of the UNSC itself.

For that lies the "diplomatic route" in which the likes of China and Russia can be in a position of telling their friends, especially the failed state ones if they happen to have one of that sort (say for example the likes of Syria in the case of Russia), that, if the UNSC appoint any SRSG into their country. And if for some reason the wretched dictatorship of that country (say, Syria for example) doesn't like the sound of what the SRSG may be saying about their gross human's right violations. Then the clique in Damascus (or those who are running that failed state in question) can say to that UN's fellow who is the SRSG for the UNSC that he is "Persona-Non-Grata" (PNG) at the drop of the hat.

This is the "diplomatic Pandora box" in which the clique of Villa Somalia are likely to open up for the Security Council (UNSC), if and when Uncle Sam (US) goes along with them in getting rid off the likes of the current SRSG, namely, Mr Haysom.

So, we shall see what the US decides in here. For that will determine many things down the line for the Security Council (UNSC). And it will also give us a much more of a "telling clarification" of the "political independence" for any subsequent SRSG, who could be "assigned" to any failed states like Somalia.

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Oodweyne   

If that is the case, then it means, Mr Yamamoto, the US's ambassador to Somalia and the guy who actually call the shot, politically, for the UN's mission in Somalia has decided to go along with Villa Somalia to get rid off the current SRSG.

And that in turn means the Secretary General of the UN (UNSG) who was waiting for the "heads-up-sign" from the US have finally being told by them, that, Mr Haysom, must be shuffled-off out of the UN's Somalia portfolio. Lets see when it becomes officials in due course.

For one thing is for sure, though. And that is the next SRSG, will be essentially a "bag-carrier". And the EU's countries will simply put on his shoulders a less of a "credence" in being vigilant or being responsible for their money they pay into AMISOM's yearly contribution.

Hence, watch how the EU (or at least some member-states of it), will, all of a sudden, start making a "financial retreat" from AMISOM's contribution. In particularly now that they know the next SRSG for Somalia will essentially be a hired-on-the-spot "non-entity", who will not stand up to "protest" any human's right violations committed by Villa Somalia with the EU's tax-payers money. It will be interesting chapter to watch, indeed.     

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Oodweyne   
25 minutes ago, cadnaan1 said:

We are waiting another statement from Somaliland on this issue.

Aha, a cheap retort from a mere looter, particularly, one with a fondness for the electric cables underneath the ground of Mogadishu. Well, No, mate, for I will have you know that we will be dealing directly with those who "colonizes" you and "occupies" your country. Who to boot, are actually the ones who will be sending this new SRSG (if it happens). So don't sweat it, mate. For yours is essentially a "picture-perfect" of a "wretched fate" in which others actually "determines" how much they shall govern you. 

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Duufaan   
21 minutes ago, cadnaan1 said:

We are waiting another statement from Somaliland on this issue.

They will welcome if another one is named. and come up another useless excuse,  If they only could live the true,

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Oodweyne   
1 hour ago, Duufaan said:

They will welcome if another one is named. and come up another useless excuse,  If they only could live the true,

Duufaan.

Actually the ones who really needs to live in a "truthful life" once in their miserable existence, are the very folks who are going in to close a thirty years (30) of anarchy, Warlord-ism, Jihadistic misadventure, high-seas-piracy, failed (repeatedly) State building attempt, "modern colonization" in this day and age of their country, and finally, a "buffer-zone occupation" inside their country by the neighboring states.

And yet these same folks will still tell you, with straight-face, that they are "Sovereign State". Even if right in this minute the discussion in which the world body by the name of UN is having is about what sort of a next "UN's imperial Viceroy" in which the natives of Somalia should get it, ought to be send to Mogadishu, speedily.

So I do not know about you, but I will say considering all of those "litanies of woes" that I have just listed them all in here for you, I am sure we in Somaliland are sitting pretty well and pretty comfortably. After all, these are not the social and political ailments in which we are belaboring under it in Somaliland, as others are doing it right in this minute in their country of Somalia.

Hence, the day you actually come around to see how others sees Somalia without sugarcoating that "ugly reality" it to yourself, will be the day in which a sniffling coward, like you, along with a looter or two who are cheering you on from the side-lines, will actually see with nothing less than a "big-color-visioned-words" as to who really is "living-with-big-lie" in here, at least, politically speaking. Is it Somalia or Somalland, who are serially indulging an "Orwellian" kind of delusional bunkum? 

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Duufaan   

OOdweyne

For the record is Somaliland welcoming the new UN chief of Somalia,?  It will not be long before someone will make a great news when the UN chief of Somalia  visits Hargeysa. The Hargeysa administration gamboled and lost the bet here. A cheap shot which backfired as soon it fired. Assuming the next UN chief will be more modisho friendly the Hargeysa administration will have  even more headaches. We are still waiting the   Berbera  project to move forward.  Things are not going well for  the separist and this new year didn’t started better. In otherhand it will be more to celebrate the  rebirth of the nation of Somalia .

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Diktoore Oodka,

I highly doubt that Amb. Donald Yamamoto had anything to do with this. The Ambassador is highly experienced one, this was the work of juvenile Cheeseman.

The SG's statement (read here) highlighted what everyone worth his salt in as far as Diplomacy 101 is concerned was saying.  You cannot use PNG on SRSG. The normal channels to only a request through the Secretary General's office. 

By accepting this violation of International norms,  the UN SG has given Cheeseman a lifeline. If he were to reject it, which is within his powers, it would have been a huge embarrasment for Cheeseman and Co. 

The UN SG talked with Cheeseman 2 times over the course of deliberating a response. I am very much sure Cheeseman begged the SG to accept the F*Kup and the price for accepting this could be enormous, diplomatically speaking. 

@Duufaan,

On face value, it may seem a win. But in real terms, this is a huge lose for Cheeseman and Co. If only you could have a sneak peek into the Diplomatic community's messages in the last few days, then you could have realised how seriously damaging this is.

With regards to Somaliland, it has made the right move. When this sort of F*kup happens, you have to make a move and it made the right move. I am sure in the Diplomatic spheres, it is being discussed in good-terms. And I am sure a lot of people who have clout in the diplomatic world must be looking into Somaliland's case in a different light. 

All we will await is the fallout from this in the next months or year. 

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Oodweyne   

Duufaan,

One of the tragedy you have is that you actually think that the replacement of one "colonial officer" with another one (which is what Mr Haysom was) makes for an independence Statehood.

Or to put it in a more grandly terms, you actually think that the sight of seeing one "Imperial Viceroy" being replace by another ones, which in turn was necessitated by the fact that the "natives" may have being a bit of a "restive" mood about him, actually makes the birth (or re-birth?) of a nation.

You simply have no idea what on earth you are waffling on in here, my friend.

You see, if, Mr Haysom, were to have been the last of a long line of a lot of UN's Viceroys over Somalia, who is about to depart for good, then you would have a case to make when you say that the departure of Mr Haysom is a start of a new independence era for Somalia. Much like the manner the last UN's appointed Italian's Viceroy over Somalia who departed in late June of 1960 was the beginning of the independence era for Somalia.

But now it's almost like a "ghost of a replica" of the situation of how things were back in mid-1950s for Somalia, whereby one UN's Italian Viceroy used to be replaced by another one. And yet here you are actually celebrating such feet and indeed welcoming such an ignominious and degrading spectacle, as if that makes the sight of an independent nation.

Do you see how imbecilic your whole argument looks to all? Even the ones with meanest of intelligence will see that way, my friend.

No, that won't do, dear lad. Try harder. 

As for the Somaliland, we have covered this issue many times, but suffice to say that we have had a good year in a "Geo-Economical sense" of that word. Or at least, our enemies (meaning Villa Somalia) took us on a multiple fronts and they have lost most of them. And indeed they have lost so glaringly and so publicly, to boot.

Which is why they have stopped talking about anything to do with Berbrera's military base, DP World's investment, Somaliland Developmental Fund (SDF). And indeed they even stopped all talks pertaining to how they were going to end all the International Donor's direct budgetary contribution to Somaliland's coffers. And they never seems to mention a word of those issues at all nowadays. Funny that?

After all, it was the case, wasn't it, that all of these issues were the ones in which Villa Somalia have put on their "suits-of-armor" (as it were) just do battle against us, where these issues are concern. And yet they are the ones who have nothing to show for it at the beginning of another year after they have been fighting us all through-out the previous year.

So I accept your imbecility is really incurable, mate. But, come on, lad, this is really embarrassing, to say the least. Which means another way of putting it is to say try harden, again, dear ninny.

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Suldaanka,

 I agree that this is not the works of Mr Yamamoto, at least at the beginning. But when it happened and as you say Mr Cheeseman messed-it-up so royally, then the US had simple choice to make. And they did what they had to do to "rescue" the situation. Hence the reasons, I think, Mr Yamamoto, had to go along with Mr Cheeseman with this mess. And by that I mean, the following:

 Firstly and foremost, US always looked Somalia trough the ""prism" of interrelated Security issues, at least since 9/11 era. And now they are looking Somalia through the "filter" of the current Geo-political competition the US has with China. In particularly on issues pertaining to the Sea-lanes and the Sea-Shores of East and Horn of Africa, where "Naval-Power-Projection" can be mounted from them.

And they are concern with how to "ensure" that the China's expanding Naval presence in Africa do not protrude into Somalia's long coast-lines on the Indian Ocean side of Somalia.

Subsequently, that being the over-all picture in here, it seems that US (at Deputy State level along with its Ambassadors across the horn-of-Africa's region) have decreed out of US's strategic interests to prob-up the weakling government in Villa Somalia, for strategical reasons. And that means, the notion of keeping Somalia's UN's Trusteeship intact is much less costlier to US's security Strategy than to allow Somalia to descent into anarchy in the absence of the UN's colonization project in Somalia.

Which in turn actually means that to the US's way of viewing things, the fact that some officials from the UN, who were deliberately besmirched and humiliated, may be the price in which the UN have to pay in the light of Mr Cheeseman fluffing his lines in here, just to keep the whole ramshackle edifice of the UN's trusteeship over Somalia from collapsing at the seams. 

That was the "hard choice" in which the US's strategical actors (over East and Horn-of-Africa) have been called on to make. And they seemed to have took the cold hard one that preserves the US's interests, in so far as that interests gets to be served by the prolonging of the UN's Colonization scheme over Somalia. Therefore, it follows from this, that, whoever actually runs the day-to-day functions of that larger UN's scheme inside Mogadishu is not that important to the US's particularize view of its strategy over the Horn-of-Africa as whole.

For who runs the UN's Mogadishu offices is not that important to the US, so long as the "policy, the mandate, and the political contours of that UN's protect" in which those offices will be "implementing" it gets to be decided at the UNSC level, whereby the US will be the "first-among-the-equal-partners" at the Security Council (UNSC) who will "formulates" all of that which pertains to the UN's Project over Somalia. Which is essentially a political project that is a "glorified version" of the old "Trusteeship model" being updated for the requirement of the modern times and for the purpose of our current days.

This is where the diplomatic hand of Mr Yamamoto was at play in recent days. And what he is most likely have had to do with this current fiasco of Somalia with the UN.

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