shakes head at Caamir's definition of impartiality. Ninka see wax ka noqdeen nin adag baan ku ogaaye.

Originally posted by Warancade Al Falastini.: Siilanyo won the solid blue states . Waqooyi galbeed and Sanaag were battle ground states. Say Siilaanyo won the soild Habro states. Why blue? Must we all imitate the Americans in everything?

Ethiopia will have the final say on this matter, or it will sabotage the deal.

Validates the singer who said, Badayda miyaa la dhurayaa Cirkayka miyaa la rarayaa Dhirtayda miyaa la jarayaa Dadkayga miyaa la dhalan rogi Ciidaydu miyey dhamaataa Dhulka sow anigu malihi? Dalka sow anigu malihi? Guumaystaha dhacaayaa Geeridu dhibaysaa Wakhtigii dhamaayo Wuu dhaqaaqi doonaa!! GUUL! Congratulations to all Somali brothers and sisters on this landmark victory against the forces of occupation. The wind of peace that swept Moqdishu today shall prevail. This day has arrived through the immense sacrifice of young somali's who are not lucky to be with us today. May their soul rest to the thousads of faceless heroes.

Sheekh Yusuf M. Siyaad Indhacadde is reaping the fruits of his struggle. The man has fought for his country (whatever his motivations) and redeemed himself more than enough. Praise to the sheikh. Even if he is a warlord, he is a GOOD warlord.

How come good Haneefah transfers the Tusbax and cools with the rhythm of music? Speaking of the song, the boy is Wonderful (everything), the girl's voice is nice but her moves are nasty. She is not a good dancer so she mixes things. My boys still love her.

Miss Magoo Horta salaam and welcome. I have no doubt you are genius, for you understood my cranium is made of full crap in such a short time- just about four weeks. It took others six months to see the same. Anyway, what exactly is your point? Who is attacked? I am not saying people should not demonstrate. Was just making the point that becuase it was held in London doesn't mean the westerners are divided. There is always exceptions to all generalistions, but by and large, the west support the zionist Isreal. And all the efforts to win over them through appealing to their conscience is futile. You are right there is something I can do. But one thing I will not do is complain about the biased media or demonstrate in western capitals. I will support the alternative muslim media, and will work with those who are doing their best to clean their houses of the corrupt leaders in muslim countries. That has to be the approach. Our beloved homeland is also full of bipeds who afflicted with short-sightedness, stare at the cosequences and when asked why not the causes hint at the impossiblity of reversing the order of things in this universe. Will such people who Rebel from such an overbearing truth that some differences are irreconcileable ever inform? Except with their nebulous references to freedom of speech- as if it alone is going to vet my appetite for justice.

It doesnot surprise me one bit that Oodweyne is behaving like an oracle addressing puny and mortal mankind. But it is the ultimate measure of his debasement that he proclaims without any shame and self-rebuke that orphans and children without families are deficient in intellect. Adeer, you other points on the different modes of elections hold little water. They lack the basic ingredients to make a strong alloy. Where are the refrences to validate your assertions. Just becuase you have got a fame you did not need to validate, the same way the proverbial cavern that once housed a big snake acquired a lasting awesome terribleness, doesn't mean your utternaces in bold and black carry weight.

Originally posted by Nephisa: ^ man you look hot in that white outfit. You've got some nice moves too.. xaax! Soo dhawoow waryaa.. As a revenge, I will have to find your owner and must send this to him. Flirting is not allowed. Odayga waa intaan gaadhi.

Of late, some are finding it trendy to run after general statements which are directed at specific issues and bashing it for not including what perhaps, if tried, will fill many pages. I was making the point that goog political leadership is just one factor (I am not admitting it exists in Somaliland) among many others that contribute to law and order. Now, it is unfair for Mintid Farayar to ask me a question and when he gets an answer multiply it by -1 and gets the other side of it. The root causes for the instability in Southern Somalia is not what we were discussing. So it is disingenious to catagorize my answer like that. In case you will like to know what I think of the situation in the South regardless, I think it is both what you said, and largely distructive external interference which has been missing in Somaliland. The cause-effect relatiosnhip could be tricky but that is diverse subject. The amphibian has a better question. To which my answer is: yes, those I mentioned will not deliver the soultion by themselves. I am saying if the environemnt is ripe, which comes if external influence is ended, they have a better chance of bringing law and order and development to the South. I am not naive though; and I know this is not easy. But we were not debating practicalities; we were debating beliefs and assertions.

I didn't call you what you said. I am just sharpening your good sides. Waa tirtirsiimo. Your belief in some historical accounts of Isreal's 'success' and myth around its greatness baa lagaa raacay.

eedo waa fiican nahay. You know people like to fool fools. One of these Somali guys gave me a heavy dose of Malaay and calamari when I told him reerkaan gaadhaya. He said Xidigahaad mari doonta. Adigu Advance outlook class'ku muxuu ahaa? Ma outlook kuu dhiman baa jira? I thought you need "backlook", becuase you always say islaan baan ahey. I am trying to joke of course. Sheekooyinkii hosta qardaas baa la iiga dhigay. Alxamdu lilaah waan fiic nahay.

Unless he is bestowing it the crown all by himself, there is nowhere I called Ngonge 'young'. Everybody knows he is a veteran ay bowdyuhu cadaadeen. The idea was to reflect on the diveristy of the able people we have across differnent groups: the girls (ibti), the young (Adam) and the old (ngonge). Must I write Xinn so that you know I am talking about old people? Well, guess what? Actually Ngonge is a year older than Xinn. Brofossre, At least I can tell you your name on my side is "brofossor FUZZO" (Fuzzo is amharic word, it means confused.) Not that I think you are confused, just visualising a Drama by that name I watched in a theater. KoolKat eedo, adigoo leh kaluun hadaan la cunin, doqon baa la noqdaa baa iigu kaa dambaysaye bal ii waran. I think Kaluun is good, but for entirely differnt purpose. It doesn't help the head , it helps hoosta. Or so they say.

MF I admired Faysal Cali Waraabe for his honesty and for being forthright about issues. He does not mince his words, and I like him. Does that mean I like his political vision? NO. hence, no inconsistency. Maintaince of law and order is the product of several factors. I think itis quite parochial you ascride it to individual's performance. In economics, there is what they call "the without [policy] theorem". It is one way of using models to predict what some of the economic parameters would have been in the absence of some policies. It is hypothetical, I know, but if Riyaale was not the head of Somaliland or Silaanyo was not in the opposition, I reckon Somaliland would have been either better, worse or the same depending on several other factors. I know SL well enough to know that stability has come from the strength of the clan leaders and elements of dherence to law and order by the public largely owing to British rule. Riyaale or no riyaale, SL would have stood where it is, if not better. I beleive better. On the other hand, collective failure of a community cannot be blamed on individual leaders, whose leadership has not been tested in an atmosphere which allows them to implement their policies. That is why I refuse to see Riyale's leadership better than that of Ahmed Ismail Samatar, so to speak.

Originally posted by Malika: baal iga leexo let me go check my email,my heart missed a beat there just the thought of what awaits for me in that email,a response from a lovey dovey email sent earlier.. I don't know but I felt envious. Yaad u dirtay? How lucky he is!

Originally posted by J.a.c.a.y.l.b.a.r.o: Are you sure those you mentioned are good people or that they are not in that position yet so that you cannot tell what they really are ? Waar everybody is running for that bloody kursi and once they get there they are not those you knew ...... you would see them cheering for the xabashis sxb. The wretchedness of cynicsm!! And when it climbs tiny minds it just confuses it. Saaxib, running for Kursi is not the problem. What you do with it, is the issue. Those I mentioned have the pedigree and the potential. Whether they will deliver is an issue we are not in a position to judge now. What we know is that they make better presidents than Riyaale and Faysal Cali Waraabe.

You will have it when the right one crosses your path. If you didn't have it yet, you are missing big sensation.

Letter to Ibtisam Dear sister, Many greetings. No one doubts your impeccable moral principles and firm belief in Islamic culture. Indeed, many of us here applaud your untainted credentials as a passionate Somali girl, with immense knowledge and commendable courage to express her views. You are one reason why we are so proud of our learned girls, who shall be the main building block of our future as a nation. Sometimes I wonder how a nation that has the likes of you, and the young Adam Zayla, the amphibian Ngonge, and many others in this forum found itself in such misery and penury of mind! How headless people of the type Qanyare, Qaybdiid, Riyaale, and Yey still rule the thinking of this nation! But, the young cosmopolitan and enlighted generation is also afflicted with incurable malady. And you exihibit such malady to a worrying level that it is of a paramaount importance you are being reminded by a brother, lest it may abort the huge potential we see in you. It is called “credulity”, it is called unrequited magnanimity. Have you been listening to the BBC of late? Or to the CNN? Or have you read the Economist? I mean on the situation in Gaza and the conflict in the Middle East? I know you have been. Have you noticed that the BBC actually presents the massacre as a war, with two sides bloodying one another and with the outcome of the war and the name of the victor to be known soon? What was what their correspondent in Isreal saying? “The Isreali’s want to end the firing of rockets by Hamas into their land?” which land? Where is the background to the conflict? Where is the limits of the attempt to stop the rockets? Where is the 'civillians' mantra we are defeaned with when a sucide bomber hits Haifa? Did you see a single disturbing image being broadcasted on the BBC? Yes, a boy in stretcher, but why cut the picture of the boy who lost both eyes? Especially when the previous picture was taken from Aljazeera who showed both. I am sure the events of last weeks have thought you much about western media freedom and objectivity, about impartiality of international institutions and about the duality of moral standards of the western societies. The London demonstrations are a smoke screen. The Labour gov’t will not fall down because of the massacre in Gaza. That is a proxy indicator of where the loyalty of the imperial race lies. I hope your unadulterated trust in certain aspects of western morality will give way to painful introspection and factual conclusions. I hope you will not see as a kind humanitarianism the fact that some of our fellow muslims ended up in Europe by stamp of servility, or by stealth, to survive in it by mop and broom.

I never believed in this charade entity called TFG. You know my position. I don't care whoever takes the P post. I also don't want Sheekh shariif. I am not anarchist, though. I willbe happy with Sheekh Hassen Dahir Aweys. Or Prof. Ahmed Ismail Samatar. Or Cali khalif Galaydh. or Gen. Jama Mohamed Qalib. People of that pedigree, not middle-men like shariif.

They are there because there is no anywhere else to go to. Does that subside your headache. Awdalites were not killed by Siyaad Barre's regime (in fact they were the prime beneficiaries). The quest for secession drives from the martydom syndrome and the feeling of anguish. That is the bottom of it. You can sugarcoat with reference to pre-union independence, but it is common knowledge that resentement is the key driver of this ambition. I have no reason to believe Awdalities will want to seceed from the rest of Somalia, with whom they share so much. All the proof I have seen, substantiate this.

Ngonge In Social science, facts take a different shape than in the concrete world of real science where lab test in controlled enviroment are used. It is explanation, observation which involves generalisation, and the logic of induction and deduction that works best. You are cold-blooded. Do you dispute that? Redsea just to deny you the PR victory you are craving to, let me say it again. I am talking about opportunistic groups in Awdal. As far as Somalia being home is concerned, yes, the entire people of Awdal look for it, but are content with the adminstrative arrangement of SL as it is now. That doesn't make them opportunists, it makes them pragmatists.

From my experience, the only drawback is the fear. Fear of committing yourself to what you sense is good, but you are not sure of. You know you have weaknesses you don't want to tell the other person (not always becuase you don't want to tell, but you may not realise them at all) and wonder if the other person had his and what they will be. It is particulary difficult if you had come of a difficult relationship and is carrying the phobia. Or if you are in another serious relationship ( at least you know the person well) but one not as enticing as the one you found. I think those sum up my experiences. Unlike the man in this story, I was sure I was dealing with a genuine person. genuine inside too. Someone who was truthful and civilized. It was hard to resist the temptations of just taking the next plane to meet her at the height of it.

Originally posted by Abtigiis &Tolka: Those Awdalites, who sing to the SL jingo are those only fated to join and remain in the adminstration of loot by sheer limitation of personal prospects, and by the overwhelming fact of a shrunk horizon. Does this speak of AWdal or groups? Mujaahid, adna kolka reerka laga hadlo unbaad kutubta tuurtaa ood qof kale noqotaa? hay masabidin.

Love blooms in the internet. I have been part to this ONLY once. And I have to say I still feel nostalgic about those distant days. I mean epistolary love affair has all the thrill, and sensation that you won't have in the physical one. The visualisations, the expecations, the anonimity, the unreservedness add a tinge of flavour to it. I still can't resist comapring what I have with what I could have had. And thinking about all the places she said she would like to live in, you can't help but wonder what it would have been if happens now. That is why despite the funny side to it, I didn't mind the man using the interpretor. I can feel what he is going through. Asking for help is one way of coping with the emotion. Malika salaams sis. I think her circumstances are rather advance. But can you visualise if they were to up the game, and do the talk, who will be doing the heaving for the man? The interpretor????

The amphibian Ngonge, from the comfort of dual citizenship, is trying to redicule Castro. But I have always been aware of the immense feeling against secession of the Awdalites. Awdal people are not like the hot-tempered people of Sanaag. They keep it low until the time comes and they make their preferences known. It is not only about temper. They are also predominantely agro-pastoralists, with significant sedentry life. Hence, they are not the best in the war department. At least until now. But make no mistake. For them home is Somalia, the detour house is Somaliland. Those Awdalites, who sing to the SL jingo are those only fated to join and remain in the adminstration of loot by sheer limitation of personal prospects, and by the overwhelming fact of a shrunk horizon. The people have no place for the false chants from the dark political effigy superintending over SL on their behalf. They know the shrill slogan is being chanted for a purpose. One of it is the chain of villas bought in Cairo.