Originally posted by Brown: quote:Originally posted by Alle-ubaahne: I guess the TFG-supporters are few among the vast diverse Somalis in MN. Not really,they are 50-50. If you include people from Tuulayasha[Dooro killers] the focul among the TFG-supporters, I heard, is a man called Jamaal [hebel hebel] who is a brain-dead believer of Ethiopia and America. I also heard after his fraud case, he signed a contract with the fbi to spy the somalis for Uncle Sam! He is a young A/Y in action, growing with the mentality and following the footsteps of his uncle!

Originally posted by -Serenity-: I'm sad, horrified and embarrassed. I couldnt blv my eyes and ears this morning when I walked into work and my colleagues met me with the news that Somalia was being air bombed by the US. Surely not, I replied. But look at the news, Somalia harbours al-qaeda apparantly, they said. Thats nonsense, I reply. And to add injury to insult, all the news channels kept making references to al-qaeda in Somalia being the reason. What happened to decent and honest journalism? Can we blv anything these days? don't forget the media was owned by corporate America that was motivated by generating profits and has nothing to do with truth and balanced journalism!

^^the division you mentioned is almost nonexistant, since the majority support the Islamic Courts by staging a major demonstrations against the invasion of Somalia. I heard even former Somali PM C/risaaq xaaji xuseen had given an speech along many other prominant members in the community. I guess the TFG-supporters are few among the vast diverse Somalis in MN.

^^Are you saying Reer Sool are not divided at any degree in many issues, including the one I mentioned above? Waxaas baa inkiraad la yiraahdaa!

Duulaanka ay ciidamada Tigreega Masiixiyiinta ku qabsadeen dalka Soomaaliya ayaa lama filaan ku noqotey shacabka Soomaaliyeed meel kasta oo ay joogaan. Ciidamadaas oo ay horkacayaan daba dhilifyo sheegta dal iyo diinba in aan wadaagno, ayaa si lama filaan ooga soo qul quley xuduudaha ay Soomaaliya la leedahay dalka Itoobiya iyadoo haba yaraatee wax iska caabiyey aysan jiran. Qolyaha lagu tilmaamo Bulshada Caalamiga( the so called world community), United Nations iyo ururo goboleedyada ka jira Afrika sida African Union iyo IGAD, ayaa haba yaraatee waxba ka oran duulaankaaas gardarada ah ee ay Xukuumada Qowleysatada uu horkacayo Melles Sanaawe ku qabsatey dalka Soomaaliya. Halkaas ayaa waxaa si dhib yar looga cabiran karaa in Shacabka Soomaaliyeed uu ku dhacay khiyaano caalami ah oo ay u dhanyihhiin dalalka xubnaha ka ah UN ka, khiyaanadaas oo mudo dheer laga soo shaqeeyey ayaa shucuubo kala duwan ay horey ugu soo dheceen qaar kalena ay sugayaan goortooda. Waa yaabe!!!Aawaye shuruucdii caalamiga ee loogu talo galey in dawladahu xurmeeyaan qaranimadooda, madax banaanidooda iyo soohdimahooda? Taas waxay Shacabka Soomaaliyeed si cad u tusaysaa in waxa lagu tilmaamo shuruucda caalamiga oo dhan ay tahay BUHAA-BUHAA iyo shimbiro yahow heesa, UN tuna tahay urur maqaar saara oo loogu talo galey in dhiiga masaakiinta uu u xalaaleeyo qowleysatada ay kamidka yihiin Israa,iil, Mareykanka, Itoobiyo iyo kuwo kaloo badan. Dastuurka aduunaka ka jira ayaa noqdey waayahan danbe mid isku badaley ninba ninka uu ka xoog badan yahay in uu booboo hantidiisa iyo dhulkiisa oo dilo ama xabiso. Jiritaanka Khiyaano Caalami ah ayaa waxaa marag u ah: • Boobka iyo dilka ay Israa,iil ku hayso i. shacabka laga awooda badan yahay ee reer Falastiin, taas oo ay taagero buuxdo uga haysato Mareykanka iyo wadamo yurubiyaan ah ii. shacabka Lubnaan, Siirya iyo Joordan • Boobka iyo dilka uu Ameerikaanku ku hayo dalal badan sida Ciraaq iyo Afgaanistaan, • Boobka iyo dilka uu Ruushku ku hayo Shiishaan, Daagistaan iyo Ungasheetiya • Boobka iyo dilka ay Hindiya ku hayso shacabka Jammu iyo Kashmiir Waxaa taas lamida dhibta ay Filibiin, Paakistaan,Indoniishiya, maleyshia, Boorma, Al-jeeriya, Turkiga iyo wadamo kale oo fara badan ku hayaan Muslimiinta ku nool Shacabka Soomaaliyeed ayaa isna maanta la’orankaraa wuxuu ku dhacay Khiyaanadii Caalamiga aheyd, maxaa yaaley (de facto) Dalka Soomaaliya xaaladan uu ku jirno waxa uu galey gumaysi cusub oo sharci daro ah (under new illegal occupation by Tigrai Forces). Xad gudub yadaas oo dhan ayaa waxaa ka gaabsada wadmada badankood iyo UN ta amaba ka aamuseen. Waxaa xusuus gaara mudan in shucuubta ku nool wadamadaas boobka lagu haysto yihiin muslimiin amaba ay u badan yihiin. Markaa waxaan si fudud uga soo dhiraan dhirin karnaa qoraalkan in Khiyaanadan Caalamiga ay ku wajahan tahay Shucuubta Muslimka ah oo qura, goonina u tahay. Maxaa yeeley inta dalal aduunka boobka lagu haysto ama lagu dulmo sida kuwa aan kor ku soo xusney waa Muslimiin. Haddaba Khiyaanda waa inoo gooniye maxaa talaa?? Waa in shacabka Soomaaliyeed meel kasto oo ay joogaan u diyaar garoobaan in ay u huraan xigmadooda iyo xeeshooda, maalkooda iyo naftooda sidii ay dalkooda uga xoreyn lahaayeen cadowgooda diineed, dhuleed iyo dhaqan ee soo jireenka ah ee uu hogaaminayo Kufriga Melles , ugana difaacdaan diintooda iyo dalkooda. Maanta oo Dalkeenii Soomaaliya uu galley xaalad xasaasi ah oo aan horey loo maqal aragna waa lama huraan in laga xureeyo gumeystaha Tigreega ee qabsadey asagoo kaashanaya Mareykanka iyo xulifadiisu. Difaaca Dalka maanta waa daaruuri oo aanan doorasho lahayn Haddii aydan ka difaacan dalkiina iyo dadkiinaba Kufriga Tigreega, waxaa hubaala in ay idinkula kici doonaan boob, dil iyo anshax xumo fara badan taas oo ay horeba ugula keceen shacabka Soomaaliyeed. Ninkii garaad leh waa uu garanyaa waxa dhib ah ee ay u geystaan Muslimiinta Soomaalida u badan ee ku nool Kilinka 5aad ee ay gumeysato. Dhaca, kufsiga iyo dilka waxaa ay oogu dareen horumar la,aan dhinac kasta oo nolosha ah, ha ahaato waxbarasho, caafimaad, biyo galin IWM. Qofkii arkey ayaa garanayee Xukuumada Tigreegu waa dhiig yacab ‘xabaal geed saar mooyee geed qaad mele’ ah. Ninkastoo soomaali ah oo isugu sheekeeya in Tigreegu ay isaga ixtiraami doonaan, waxaa hubaal ah in Tigree uusan Soomaali waxa uu doonaba ha ahaadee u kala sokeyn. Ee ay kula dhaqmi doonaan anshax xumada caadada u ah Kufrigaas Mulxidka ah. Ku quus qaado C/laahi Yuusuf haddii maskax wax garataa ay kugu taalo. Wuxuu fashiley dadkiisii iyo dalkiisii oo uu daba dhilif u noqdey Kufriga Itoobiya. Wuxuu soo hogaamiyey ciidamadooda oo dagaal lagu qabsadey dalkiisa laguna laayo dadkiisa kala qayb qaatey. Hayeeshee, waxay abaal uga dhigtey xabsigii Alanbakho. Gabo gabadii, Dalkii Soomaaliyeed taariiq mugdi ah ayaa ka dul curatey, duniduna badankeedu sidaas ayey raali uga tahay. Balse Shacabka Soomaaliyeed intuu Eebe talo saarto ha u talaabsado sidii cadowga dhulka Hooyo looga saari lahaa. Diyaariye Maxamed (SHIFAA), Source: www.qaadisiya.com

Originally posted by Castro: quote:Originally posted by Caamir: Majority of Sool populace are with Puntland. It does not appeal to the common sense that one clan would be divided on seperate allegiancies. Why does it not "appeal to the common sense"? Originally posted by Alle-ubaahne: He came to boston, and I was told he is a nice guy, but with little courage to speak up in this difficult times of our nation! Conflict resolution requires courage so he must have it. What I'd like to hear about are his views on the invasion, occupation, the Islamic Courts, the puppet regime, the US bombing, etc.. Has he ever been interviewed on these issues? I personally asked this very question one of his clansmen, and he told me that he refrained all political issues for the good of his divided clan. And I pressed him hard to tell me at least where he stands about all these issues, and again he said 'we don't know but he is a Garaad who is cared about the cultural aspect of his people alone'. I am sure he would be accused now if he had a clear and a couragious position against the invasion, first by his clansmen and the rest.

^^That was funny, indeed! May be the old man didn't know Keith and some people misled him to that bogus info.

^^You would be successful if I was an outsider to that issue, but thanks for nothing!

Originally posted by Castro: And that raises the question: How much value, if any, does the U.S. place on the lives of innocent people when it engages in these bombings? The Progressive That is the question I ask myself more than million times and almost everyday! Why should we worry the deaths of the westerners when they worry not our deaths that is caused by their gift-bombs!

This so-called Garaad has become a celebrity, and I am sure he refrained politics because his clansmen are very divided on the notion of Somaliland and Puntland. He wants to bring them for another cause which he has not yet revealed for the public. He came to boston, and I was told he is a nice guy, but with little courage to speak up in this difficult times of our nation! Waa iska uun garaad, sida kuwii hore. Waa sideey ila tahay, koley!

^^Hugo Chaves maa ka wadaa Chavistas? War ninkaas waan jeclahay awoowe only because he doesn't like the america of Bush!

Originally posted by Caamir: I knew U.S was involved in this war and even initiated the defensive position of the TFG if you look at my earlier posts. At last, Washignton is paying attention to the anarchic situation of Somalia. With huge financial support, I believe TFG will build a viable adminstration by being directly in touch with the general masses and attenuate their fears. http://www.somaliaonline.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=008164 Ok, they [Gaalo=Americans] will build and rebuild and you will believe it, and we [the muslim insurgency] will be proven wrong as you benefit their help only because you left Islam for Gaalnimo! I hear you......

^^Are you thirsty for the remarks of the despised? lol

[QOUTE]Shinn and others have lost sight of the fact that no ethnic group or society is inherently prone to violence. Rather, it is the context in which they live that makes them so.[/QOUTE] that is more than true. But we still have more capacity to inflict harms with the invaders. Let them say what they say in predictions, but Somalis will fight to the last drop of blood, insha-Allah.

Originally posted by General Duke: CG: Did not get your point mate, nations wage war, thus which nation out of the 50 or so Muslim ones are waging war on behalf of the courts? People do not move the goal post any further, no one gave these people the right to wage war in our country. If they are Muslim then by all means start the game in their home countries, not in ours. Those you call foreigners who hail from the Muslim world belongs to Somalia more than you, since you can't defend where you call your country from the invading enemy that you led into. Shame on you, little spy among us!

^^Indha-ku-garaadle ayaa tahay, orod u daawasho tag xeebaha ay itoobiya soomaaliya ka qabsatay maanta! caqli-ba'ay iyo wadaan gorof ah iga dheh!

Originally posted by Castro: ^ Ayaan darro indeed. And here I was think Pi was a level-headed young man. What could have happened to poison him so? Did he catch the Shiekh Fifiqayre syndrome? @shiekh fiqiyare syndrome! Walaahi waa iga qoslisay. There has been lots of deadly syndromes spread around here as each feable-minded person opens the lips with repugnant absurdities!

Originally posted by Castro: You know what I like about you, Mystic? You take the time to explain the same thing to the same guys over and over and over. Does your patience have no limits? Mine ran out in 2005. Do you ever wonder the students might never understand what you're preaching? Don't give up. What you're doing is a great service to the 1000's of silent readers on this site. Walaahi I observed that as well, she is a great patient person who is firm on her believes and values. And she proved to be sticking with the good principles that has forged her the way she is now. Masha-Allah! Good people can be seen in some bad places, wishing they will alter the badness of others!

^^Go and worship the stinking Ethiopia that you love more than Islam, or more than it loves itself! Munaafaq in action!

^^I agree, Castrooow, indeed. and I really understand that more decent Americans have tremendous sympathy for the suffering of those victimized nations by the U.S. and its allies, with the feeling of huminty in their hearts. I appreciate those people wherever they are and whoever they are. I always distinguish the bad person in any country from the good people in the country. But what is very outstanding is the fact that america has grown more hostile than ever, by even transgressing its own populations for the interest of the big corporations and the elite people, let alone those in the far away worlds. But surely Allah will punish them for their grandious crimes against everybody!

I am certain the best among us will die one day, sooner or later, including those that we deeply love for Allah's sake, Sh. shariif sh. axmed and Sh. xassan dahir aweys, but Allah will remain and Islam must be our guidance to overcome the current calamity that has overshadowed our motherland. We must know that the whole world is our enemy except those who wish the good for us, who are praying for us to Allah round the clock to relieve us from the hardships. We must remember that we are not alone in this suffering, much of the earlier Muslims had undergone much tribulations than this before us. I urge you, my brothers and sisters, to remain steadfast with the rope of Allah and expect Allah from the best while engaging with the enemy and committing to driving them out of our country. With believing in Allah, comes with victory. Let's all say "Allaa weyn ninkii aaminaa awood leh" Allahu Akbar!

Originally posted by General Duke: ^^^And you will be the firts to give up your green card right? I thoought this was an occupation by the Tigray, has it now turned into a US show? Mystic, I nearly fell of my chair.. I have a country saaxiib, not that I need to stay in the blizard-ridden country of gaalo who have showed us their true colors, in animosity towards our poor people. Now, we hate them, and we hate their country and whatever they stand for! You are mistaken if you think you can xuux me with what you consider the god of your uncle, America!

Originally posted by Captain Xalane: Man don't lie about History and Don't lie about the Somalian military or whats left of them.They never had no sayings like that and ur idea of saying that they were on tanks and our boys were on the ground is absurd.Do u know what u are talking about? u are talking about a man who is on the ground and a man who is mounted.None is gonna waste their lives sxb.Ur notion here is absurd and embarassing. Horta adiga maxaa aheyd? Yaadse wax u sheegeysaa marka hore ma is weydiisay! Jaahil dad wacdinaayo waa aduunyo gadoon runtii.

Originally posted by Castro: All of these countries (Ethiopia, Kenya, Djibouti, Uganda, etc..) are being coerced by the US. For all intents and purposes, Somalia is at war with the United States. That is absulately right, and the United States is at war with any good-spirited Muslim who can stand up for the interest of the Muslim Ummah. Let them bombard us, for we have dignity and we have Allah on our side!

Originally posted by General Duke: ^^^Insults aside, the reason you came rushing to this thread was the name of Ibrahin Xasan Cadow in the title. Thus go ask the man, why he squandered the opportunity before when they could have got a political deal. If he was against the TFG then why does he want to talk to them, now? Saxib the Duke has not chnaged his stance, Cadow, Sharif Aahmed and the remenants of the courts have. It is your wishes that are fluctuating by the minute, not the firm position of the honorabl leaders of the UIC. You are very feable minded if you think your friends had secured a tangible victory for you that can bloster your puppet TFG, but I am sure the world has not ended with today or yesterday. Life will continue and we will definately regroup and keep pressing the enemy until they withdraw with miser and defeat on their side, and you, the little chicken will then be our priorities to be eliminated once and for all. You didn't destroy us, we are still alive. Our people are ready to fund the resistance here in the diaspora. We have the means, the will and the commitment to prolong this war as much as we want it for the destruction of what you brought to our people and muslim lands. victory will only come as we shed more bloods of the enemy by sacrificing our precious lives, indeed.