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Zack; its good that we agree. Now lets also agree on the fact that Puntlanders also have largers numbers than Somali Galbeed folks in the twin cities..

You are right, Somali traders are taking over Africa.

LayZie G.;685653 wrote: Abwaan seems to be suffering from a mild case of puntite .....his recent logs from ancestry.com reveal that his trees go back as far as the border town of garowe and even there, it came back inconclusive, hence his hostile tone(his frustrations got the best of him)....that being said, ABWAANi was on target when he said abwaanland or as he likes to call "fatuudland" does not exist but what does exist and what continues to exist is the "land of the punt". :p:p On a side note, brr, brrr, brrr to BANADIR team.......(where are the secessioners? lets hope you are not locked in a farmhouse somewhere while xaaji xundi leads the charge to unleash poisonous gas and ngonge plays the part of chief negotiator in the scene for aabo silaanyo) Welcome LG, its good to see ya.

Not sure what Zack is crying about here. The Somali's who hail from Puntland constitute a large grouping in the US, and I am talking about the largest centres where the Somali's reside in. The Somalilanders are a small group here, and have little inflaunce.

Well done to the local admin.

^^^There is no game here adeer, you are a mere spectator watching with envy.

^^^lol@the Twin Cities comment, I did not expect anything else from you. Anywho the fact remains, you are at a disadvantage in every location.

AfricaOwn;685635 wrote: In the US? ) Forget about Virginia, DC, Atlanta, and Houston. There are more Somali's in South Minneapolis than all those places you mentioned combined. Go jump of a cliff, and you know that this is a fact, no matter how much you spin it.

So now Haatuf is owned by Puntland?

Abwaan;685478 wrote: Somalina Ilaah caqliga hakuu daayo. Waa runtaa Tarzan wixii ay jeclaayeen buu u sheegay. That is the Tarzan I know. This was just a football match based on Gobollada Soomaaliyeed....Garoowe, Benadir etc. There is no Fatuudland....if you wanted to see a Fatuudland we should have seen them represented. "In unity we Stand, divided we fall" "One Somalia, One Love" Look at this grown man, full of hatred and envy. He insults a whole State [1/3 of Somalia] and populace and then calls for "unity". How ignorant can a person be? He even goes to mention the United States forgetting that this very entity is made up of 50 States in a union. This is proof beyond any shadow of a doubt, that lack of education is dangerous thing. Each one of these States has its own weird sounding name, like Minnesota, or Ohio. Each with its own flag, Capital city, parliament, head of State [Governor] and its own unique local laws. This man proudly scuffs at and insults the very people he claims to be his countrymen, unable to accord them anything positive or even simple praise. These Somali's after a devastating war, worked hard, build a whole new country from nothing, welcomed everyone from all corners and even paid for this tournament which he so belittles to take place. He claims, it’s a simple "game" and then highlights his prejudice in public openly. No doubt the “poet” was angered at the sheer success of it all, the joy and even the change of heart of Tarzan. He the "poet" was pained by the unity and the possibility of a better future shown by the brave folks of Puntland and the achievement of their admin in bringing Somalia much needed, joy and unity. Here is an educated, famous and world beating Somali man recieving an honor in Puntland State Know that your hate will only consume you.There is nothing you can do to Puntland and its people./.

Yeah he is a true hero. And was welcomed like one in Puntland State of Somalia..

Ahh my wonderful Somalina comes in guns blazing. Pardon me, but you are wrong in this case, and your anti Puntland BS is clouding your judgment, go drink some Cofe and calm down. Yes the largest Somali Diaspora are those who hail from the state of Puntland. Thats a fact. The secessionist link with Al Shabaab will be exposed and they can cry and deny all they like, we know how they benefit from the mayhem and murder.

SL oo lagu eedeeyey xiriir Al Shabaab 1 Jan 1, 2011 - 11:36:37 AM NB: War saxafadeedkaan waxaa u akhriyay saxaafada gudaha iyo caalamiga ah Wasiir xigeenka Amniga ee Dowladda Puntland, Md. Cumar-Jamal Cisman Maxamad --------------------- WAR-SAXAFADEED (Dowladda Puntland ee Soomaaliya) 1 Janaayo 2011 Puntland oo ka Welwelsan Xiriirka Somaliland iyo Al Shabaab Waayahaan waxaa si isdaba joog ah uga soo yeerayay Maamulka Somaliland hadalo aan munaasab ahayn oo ku aadan wax ka sheega Dowladda Puntland iyo adkaynta amaankeeda. Marka hore waxaan rabnaa inaan cid walba u cadayno in ciidamada Dowladda Puntland ay yihiin kuwo ay kula dagaalamayso Argagaxisada, Burcad-badeeda, Tahriibta iyo cid kasta oo ku howlan dambiyada abaabulan, kuna adkaynayso amnigeeda iyo xasiloonida gudaha, waxaana la yaab in ay Somaliland arrintaasi khatar u aragto. Waxaa xusid mudan in ugu yaraan dhowr jeer ay Dowladda Puntland fulisay ayna ciidamo uga dhinteen howlgalo Burcad-badeeda ka dhan ah oo lagu badbaadiyay gadiid iyo badeecad u raran Somaliland. Waxaa kale oo wararka isdaba joogga ah ee Saraakiisha Hargaysa ka soo yeerayay, uuna ugu danbeeyey waraysigii uu BBC-da siiyay Gudoomiyaha xisbiga talada haya ee KULMIYE 30 Dec 2010, ee kicinta, tumida durbaan-colaadeedka, iyo ka hadalka macdantu ayna kala mid yihiin afhayeenkii kooxda Al Shabaab ee Maxamad Siciid Atam ay hoosta ka xariiqayso sida ay weli gabaad iyo abaabul u siinayaan haragii kooxda Al Shabaab ee dhowaan lagu jabiyay Buuraleyda Galgala. Puntland waxay diyaar u tahay Soomaalinimo, deris-wanaag, iyo wax-wada-qabsi cidnana cadow iyo duulaan kuma aha. Waxay kaloo Puntland ku howlan tahay isu-keenid ku salaysan dib-u-heshiisiinta qeybaha kala gedisan ee Bulshada Soomaaliyeed, sidii ay isugu keentay shirweynihii Culumaa’udiinka, Shirkii Haweenka Soomaaliyeed iyo Ciyaarihii 18aad ee Gobollada Soomaaliyeed oo markii ugu horaysay lagu qabtay Garowe tan iyo 1987kii. Dowladda Puntland waxay ku howlan tahay adkeynta amnigeeda si loo xaqiijiyo hor’umarka dadka iyo dalka loona abuuro jawi saamaxaya maalgelin sokeeye iyo mid shisheeye. Cid kasta oo Soomaali ah oo sidaa oo kale samaysa kama xumin oo waanu taageeraynaa. Waa Somaliland midda dal iyo dad aysan lahayn ku soo duushay oo gardarro ku joogta, waana Somaliland midda hadda ku howlan abaabul-colaadeed jabhadaysan iyo dib-u-nooleyn haraagii kooxda Al Shabaab ee u fakaday buuraleyda galbeed ee Gobolka Sanaag. Waxaan kula talin lahayn Maamulka Somaliland inay durbaan-coladeedka ay garaacayaan iyo malahooda been-awaalka ah ku bedelaan horumarinta dadkooda iyo degaankooda, tixnagaliyaan deris-wanaaga. Waxaan Beesha Caalamka ka codsanaynaa inay si taxadar leh ula socdaan xaalad-abuurka beenta ah ee ka soo yeeraya Maamulka Somaliland. Waxaanu mar kale ku celinaynaa in ciidamada Dowladda Puntland ay u taagan yihiin qaybna ka yihiin sugida amniga guud ee mandaqada Geeska Afrika. Ugu danbayn, Puntland waxay mar kasta diyaar u tahay in khilaaf kasta oo Soomaalida dhexdeeda ah lagu xaliyo nabad iyo wada-hadal. Xigasho: Dowladda Puntland

I think the US understands the importance of Puntland. The largest Somali Diaspora in America are those who hail and have deep ties to Puntland. Thus how can the secessionist inflaunce US policy, when they are but a minority here. Now their open support for terror groups has come to the fore, we shall see how it turns out.

The secessionist double speak and double dealing is ammusing..

'Atom is a Terrorist,' Says Somaliland After Puntland Allegations Authorities in Somalia's separatist republic of Somaliland have rejected accusations that Somaliland soldiers fought alongside Al Shabaab militants at war with Puntland's government, Radio Garowe reports. Somaliland Information Minister Abdullahi Osman Geljire told a press conference Tuesday in the capital Hargeisa that Somaliland does not support Al Shabaab insurgents. "We share a border with Puntland there is neighborliness and brotherhood between us and our communities [Puntland and Somaliland]," Somaliland's information minister told reporters. He rejected accusations from Puntland President Abdirahman Farole and Puntland Livestock Minister Said Hassan Shire that Somaliland soldiers "fought alongside Al Shabaab" in Galgala area of Puntland. In early August, Puntland troops launched a massive military offensive in Galgala, a mountaineous area roughy 60km southwest of Bossaso, Puntland's bustling port city and commercial capital. Puntland leaders say they have seized all of the militants' training camps and strongholds in the Galgala mountainous area. President Farole said the insurgents, led by Mohamed Said Atom, had fled to regions west of Puntland, under the control of Somaliland government. "We consider Atom to be a terrorist and we will hunt him down if he sets foot inside Somaliland," said Mr. Abdullahi Geljire, the information minister of Somaliland, in the strongest language from Somaliland government regarding the Galgala conflict. The mountainous regions around Galgala stretches deep into Somaliland regions, considered geographically as part of the Golis mountain range. The anti-Puntland rebels linked to Al Shabaab are hiding out in those mountains, Puntland officials believe. But Somaliland Information Minister Geljire said he wants to "reiterate" Somaliland's calls for security cooperation with Puntland, which President Farole welcomed during a recent interview with BBC. Somaliland and Puntland have clashed several times over an unmarked border since 2002, with both administrations claiming ownership of Sool and Sanaag regions. That 'border dispute' has been resolved yet but both administrations have expressed peace overtures in recent months. Last month, the U.S. government announced the two-track approach for its Somalia policy which would see U.S. direct support to Somaliland and Puntland, whilst continuing to back UN-recognized Transitional Federal Government (TFG) in Mogadishu under African Union protection. In Oct. 2008, Al Shabaab suicide bombers launched five simultaneous in Hargeisa and Bossaso, including a suicide bombing at the Somaliland presidential palace in Hargeisa. Somaliland unilaterally declared independence from the rest of Somalia in 1991 but has not been recognized yet, while Puntland supports the establishment of a future federal Somalia

Somaliland links with Al Shabaab keeps coming out...

Afhayeenka Atam Oo Sheegay Inay Diyaar U Yihiin Wada Hadal Dhexmara Xukuumada, Qirayna In SomalilandAy Waajib Ku Tahay Difaacida Sanaag Bari Hargeysa, January 4, 2010 (Haatuf) – Afhayeenka kooxda Atam ee ka dagaalanta Buuraha Galgala ee Bariga Sanaag Faarax Isaaciil Sardheeye ayaa sheegay inay danaynayaan wada hadal ay la galaan xukuumada Somaliland, isagoo qirayna in deegaanada Bariga Sanaag ay ka tirsan yihiin Somaliland, isla markaana ay waajib ku tahay Somaliland inay ka difaacdo deegaanadaasi Sanaag bari maamulka Puntland ee damacsan inuu deegaanadaasi ka baadho Macdan iyo khayraadka ku duugan, isla markaana waxa uu Puntland ku eedeeyey in ay xasuuq kula kaceen dadkii u dhashay deegaanada Sanaag bari. Mr. Faarax Sardheeye waxa uu dhinac iska leexiyey eedayn sheegaysay in ay kooxdoodu ay ka tirsan tahay Al-Shabaab, waxaanu tibaaxay in maamul goboleedka Puntland uu eedayntaas ka danbeeyo. Afhayeenka Dagaalyahanka Sh. Atam Faarax Ismaaciil Sardheeye waxa uu sidaasi ku sheegay mar uu wargeyska Haatuf khadka tilifoonka ugu waramayey isaga oo ku sugan deegaanka “Madar-shoon” oo ka mid ah dhulkii dhawaan ay ku dagaalameen maamulka Puntland oo uu sheegay in uu tirsan yahay buuralayda Sanaag bari, ugu horayna isaga oo ka hadlaya deegaanka Sanaag bari iyo cida masuuliyadeedu saaran tahayba, waxa uu yidhi “Somaliland waxaan u sheegaynaa dhulkan la isku haysto ee ay Puntland rabto in ay kala baxdo khayraadkiisa waa dhul Somaliland ka tirsan adinka ayaanay masuuliyadi idinka saaran tahay, deegaanka Sanaag barina waxa uu maanta u baahan yahay dawlada wax ka dhicisa oo horjoogsata damac Faroole” S: Waxaad ka warantaa Xaalada Guud ee deegaanka buuralayda Gal-Gala? J: Deegaankani hada waa dhul iska cidlo ah, tan iyo intii ay meeshan ka dhaceen dagaaladii gardarada ahaa ee maamul goboleedka Puntland ku soo qaadeen dadka dhulka asal ahaan iska leh, kaas oo loo adeegsaday ******** iyo dad kale oo aan la garanayn meel laga keenay. S: Waxa la idinku eedeeyaa in aad ka tirsan tihiin kooxda argagixisada ah ee Al-Shabaab, arintaas maxaad ka odhan lahayd? J:Waxaas waxba kama jiraan, anagu Al-Shabaab wax xidhiidh ah oo aanu la leenahay ma jirto, eedeynta noocaas ahna maamulka Garoowe ayaa gaalada wax kaga qaata oo waa mashruuc, arimahaasina waxa ay ka mid yihiin dagaalada lagula jiro dadka ka soo jeeda deegaanka bariga Sanaag. S: Maxaad ku cadayn kartaa in xidhiidh aydaan la lahayn kooxda Al-Shabaab? J: Taasi way iska cadahay, anaguna xidhiidh aanu la leenahay Shabaab habayaraatee ma jirto. S: Maamul goboleedka Puntland ciidamada calooshood u shaqaystayaasha ah ee uu ku tababaray Boosaaso, sideed u aragtaan? J: Calooshood u shaqaytayaashaasi waxa ay ka mid yihiin kuwa raba in dhulkan xoog ay kaga kiciyaan dadka u dhashay, waxaananu diyaar u nahay in aanu dagaal kala hortagno,ciimadana waxay ay u tababaranayaan in ay xoog wax ku qabsadaan. S: Mawqifka aad Somaliland ka taagan tihiin ma ii sheegi kartaa? J: Somaliland waxa aanu u aragnaa dawlad aan wax dhib ah noo geysan oo danaha shacabkeeda ku mashquulsan, dawladaas Hargeysa joogtaana waa dad Somaliyeed oo aanu ka dhib laanahay. S: Xukuumada Somaliland wax wada hadal ah wali ma la yeelateen, ama ma danaynaysaan in aad la yeelataan? J: Hadii ay suurta gal tahay waanu danaynaynaa, cid Alla cidii wax na tari kartaba diyaar ayaanu u nahay in aanu la hadalno. S: Warar dhawaan soo baxayey ayaa sheegaya in aad garab ka heshaan kooxda Al-shabaab oo la sheego in aad deegaanaas u qaabilsan tihiin arintaasi ma jirtaa? J: Waxaa waxba kama jiraan, waa been abuur cad oo nalagu shaanbadaynayo, halka aanu ku suganahayna waa xadkii u dhaxeeyey Puntland iyo Somaliland markaa anaga Shabaab iyo waxaas waa nalagu shaanbadaynayaa. S: Hogaamiyihiinii Atam xagee ayuu ku danbeeyey oo uu ku sugan yahay wakhtigan? J: Wuu joogaa, waanu nala joogaa isaga oo bad qaba.

Xaji, adeer you sure need help. I know you are depserate for a hero, Aydeed was yours no doubt as he was the boss of Abdirahman Tuur, and now you want Qaybdeed to be your boss? Poor lost secessionist. The fact remains, no power in Somalia can do anything to Puntland, and Galmudug is a region and clan I know very well, including the man you are pinning your hopes on. A/Qaybdeed was made a General by Yusuf Yey, who appointed him his police Chief and since then he has been an ally of those who supported him in his darkest days. However Xanhuf lives in his own world. Adeer come out and fight Puntland if you must, to hide behind other men is quite laughable and befits your stature.