MMA, what you are saying is that Gedo is occupied by the SNF? Are those clans not indegenous to the area?

Comrad, I accept there will be conforntation of some sort, the actions of the warlords have proven this, but the strategy should be to avoid it untill the armed forces of the government are ready and when there is greater consensus for action. I also agree that the status quo must change, i.e. the executive must be shaken up. Removing the warlords those in the Dayniile aliance, and naming a new cabinet. But I belive that things are changing for the better. What was that old saying Rome was not built in a day.

I thought this thread was about Jubaland state? What is the point of proving the origins of which clan inhabited which area. As for Gedo the question should e who is the majority in the region know? The majority today matter more than who lived in the area a century or more ago. There is very little demographic information on Somalia.

Mr secesionist, self declared orphans of the Queen of England. Ayoub, when I wrotte that I had you and several others in mind...

^^^ lol. Our government is in Baidoa and the troops are forming. It will take much effort and time. The looney secesionists are now so desperate they cite Dayniile.com and non existant political organisations in Mogadishu as means of gaining that recognition. If that does not work , you can always send out new love letters from Warrabe to the people of Mogadishu. As for Bashir Raage, he is an individual and has a right to his opinion.

I still dont understand all this fuss. A bogus poll, conducted by a bogus party..

^^^ Comrad, I belive the project [tfg] is going well regardless of the perception. The obsticles are getting smaller as they the Parliment get their act together. If we look at where we were a few months ago, a divided parliment, the warlords holding sway in Mogadishu and no decsions on HQ. Today we have warlords united but aas isolated, Parliment united and working. The main test is to build on this and increase the capacity to effectively take control of more territory, whie avoiding direct confrontation with armed groups.

^^^ Mr secesionist, self declared orphans of the Queen of England. I personally require moreinformation on this matter. One article and a few Somali translation wont do for me..So kindly forward any further updates..

Red sea, first stop making silly statements, it does you no justice what so ever. If Yusuf is a warlord then so was Egal, Tuur, and so are Silanyo, all the SNM comanders who took part in the wars. Riyaales actions as an SNN operative, his claims over SOOL, SANAG and CAYN would in my eyes make him no different to Yalaxow, Inda CADE and the warlords in the south. I expect nothing from secesionists for their main claim has been that everyone who opposes then and convenaintly happens to be outside their clan is a warlord... My leaders have disapointed me, they are the eleceted President of the republic, the PM and the Parliment speaker. They have not delivered as of yet to my very high expectations.

I agree with Horn, just Bashir Raage and co support the secesionists means nothing. The people as a whole regardless of clan support the unity of the nation. Another example of the desperation of the secesionists and warlords. Its great that all the dead enders are coming together..

^^^ Not all Somalis. Its just the people have lost hope. But they are no means savages..

^^^ What remains an intenal issue. This was not about North West Somalia. Just highlighting how things stand in Mogadishu. It matters not what self deluded secesionists think.

Madaxweynaha Somaliya oo ku tilmaamay Xiriirka ka dhexeeya Isbahaysiga Argagaxiso la diriirka iyo Mareeykanka in uu yahay mid aan u adeegayn Danaha Soomaaliya Somaliweyn - Stockholm-Sweden -04/05/06 Madaxweynaha Dawladda Federaalka Ah ee Soomaaliya oo Booqasho Rasmi ah ku joogay dalka Sweden wuxuu ka ambabaxay magaalada Stockholm ee caasimadda Sweden maqribnimadii Shalay. Madaxweynaha dalka Soomaaliya intii uu joogay dalka Sweden wuxuu Wadahadal la yeeshay qaar kamid ah shirkadaha ugu baaxadda wayn ee dalka Sweden iyadoo aay ka wadahadleen sidii xagga dhaqaalaha iyo farsamada shirkadahaasi aay gacan uga siin lahaayeen dalka Soomaaliya oo uu ku dhacay burbur baaxaddiisa aan la qiyaasikarin intii uu socday dagaalkii Sokeeye iyo 16kii sano oo dalku ku jiray fawdo iyo dawlad laáan. Madaxweynuhu Wuxuu la Kulmay Guddoomiyaha bangiga kaydka ee ugu wayn dalka Sweden bangigaas oo la yiraahdo "Sparbanken"waxaayna ka wadahadleen sidii bangigaasi uu taageero dhaqaale iyo mid farsamaba ugu fidin lahaa dalka Soomaaliya iyo bunuukta Soomaaliya . waxaa kale oo madaxweynuhu uu la kulmay Guddoomiyaha shirkadda caanka ah ee Ericson waxaayna ka wadahadleen sidii shirkadaasi xagga isgaarsiinta dalka Soomaaliya qayb uga qaadan lahayd . Madaxweynaha jamhuuriyadda Diimooqaraadiga ah ee dalka Somaliya cabdullahi Yusuf wuxuu shir jaraaid shalay ku qabtay Hotelka uu deggan yahay oo uu ka babanayey calankii Soomaaliya ,wuxuuna ka hadlay xaaladda Guud ee Soomaaliya iyo dhibaatooyinka hortaagan dawladda soomaaliyeed oo da´da yar .mar madaxweynaha wax laga waydiiyey dagaaladii dhawaan ka dhacay magaalada Muqdishow iyo Isbahaysiyada ku looltamaya awoodda caasimadda iyo aragtida dawladdu ka qabto arrimahaas. Madaxweynaha Dalka Soomaaliya oo ka warramayey isbahaysiga ladagaalanka Argagaxisada wuxuuna madaxweynuhu tilmaamay xiriirka ka dhexeeya Isbahaysiga ladagaalanka argagaxisada iyo Mareeykanka oo uu ku tilmaamay mid aan u adeegayn danaha Soomaaliya .Madaxweynuhu wuxuu sheegay in dalka aay dawlad ka dhisan tahay iyaduna masuul ka tahay amniga iyo xasiloonaanta dalka. Saciid Axmad Cabdilwaaxid "Saciid Nabadoon "oo aanu ku wareeysanay khadka talefoonka isaga oo ku sugan Magaalada Stockholm goob joogna ka ahaa shirarkii madaxweynuhu la yeeshay Madaxda iyo Shirkadaha dalka Sweden iyo Kulankii Taariikhiga ahaa oo madaxweynuhu ku la yeeshay Dadweynaha Soomaaliyeed ee Kunool dalka Sweden magaalada Stockholm ,wuxuu noo sheegay in Booqashada madaxweynuhu aay ahayd mid lagu najaxay.

^^^ I do like that last point. The government seems confused as to their responsability. No one has even commented on this major news, while every news agency is reporting on this and further tarnishing our image. Our TFG is quite, maybe the life of one individual and his family dont mean much to our leaders...

Mid Ka Mid Ah Hoggaamiye Kooxeedyada Muqdisho Oo Taageeray Safiirka Itoobiya La Sheegay In Ay U Magacowday Somaliland HARGEYSA, Khamiis /04/05/2006 mid ka mid ah hoggaamiyayaasha ku hubeysa magaalada Muqdisho isla markaana ah ganacsade caan ah ayaa taageeray safiirka Itoobiya u magacowday maamulka la magac baxay Somaliland. Waxaan taageersanahay oo aan u hambalyaynayaa dawlada Itoobiya safiirka ay u soo magacawday Soomaliland kaas oo aan u arko mid guul ah." Sidaa waxa yidhi ganacsade Bashiir Raage Shiraar oo ah gudoomiyaha shirkadda Kaamil ee gacanta ku haysa garoonka cisalay ee magaalada Muqdisho. Ganacsaduhu waxa uu sheegay in uu aad ugu faraxsan yahay in la aqoonsado Somaliland oo buuxisay shuruudihii loo baahnaa, isagoo yidhi: "Caalamka waxaan ugu baqaynaa in dalalka kalena ay ku daydaan oo ay gaystaan safiiro waayo Soomali maanta cida dawlada rasmiga ah leh ee kala danbayn iyo maamul leh waa Somaliland markaa waxaan kula talin lahaa Midawga Afrika iyo beesha calamkaba in la ixtiraamo masiirka ummadda Somaliland, ma qabo anigu nin dhulkiisa ay dhiiqo dhex fadhido in uu ka hadlo wax aanu samayn karin oo ay dad samaysteen, waxaan u sheegayaa in ay dhamaatay wakhtigii dadka la caburin jiray oo maanta aduunku uu yahay in cidii isla jaan qaadi kartaba ay tahay in la tix geliyo. Somaliland kama liidato East Temor oo aduunku madaxbanaani siiyey, markaa waxaan qabaa cida meelahaa ka hadlaysa ee leh dalka yaan la kala goynin shalay ayaa isku daray horta ha la waydiiyo, wuu dhamaaday wakhtigii cunsiriyiintu ay dadka ku beer laxawsan jireen midnimada Soomaliyeed waa muqadas, rajiimkaasina waa ku daayey kuwa mooday in uu wali nool yahay waxa aan u sheegi lahaa cidlaad gudaysaan." Warlord support for Somaliland.

The alliance of warlords and Courts fighting over the control of Mogadishu have taken two opposing position when it comes to Somailand. The Courts have said no to the break up of the nation and the warlords have come out in favour of destrying the unity of the nation.. SHEEKH XASAN DAAHIR AWEYS OO KA DIGAY AQOONSIGA DOWLADDA ITOOBIYA SIIYSO MAAMULKA SOMALILAND Sheekh Xasan Daahir Aweys oo ka mid ah mauuliyiinta sarsare ee midowga maxaakiimta islaamiga ee magaalda muqdisho oo ka hadlay muranka Golaha baarlamaanka dowladda soomaaliya hareeye ee ku saabsan safaaradda Itbiya ka furatay degaanka Somaliland iyo aqoonsiga dowladda Itoobiya ee soomailnad ayuu ka dhawaajiyey in Itoobiya aysan xilligaan bilow u aheyn is ku dayga ay ku dooneyso in ay ku kala qeybiso soomaaliya taasoo ah qorshe ay weligeed ku taami jirtay taasoo uu ugu digay dowladda federaalka soomaaliya in ay ku kadsoomin oo ay wax walba xaqiiqdooda gaaraan. Dhinaca kale Sheekh Xasan Daahir Aweys oo ka hadalay sidii ay dowlada federaalkakmg soomaaliya u dayacday ciidamadii hore ee qalabaka sida isagoo ku sheegay in ciidmadii horey ay leeyihiin waay aragnimo ciidan iyo mid dowladeedba ayan u baahan yihiin insidooda looga faa’ideysto ayan yihiin kuwa soo saari kara tababar karana maleeshiyada iyadoo loo kalaxulayosiday u kala wanaagsan yihiin . Dowladda federaalk soomaaliya waxaa uu sheekhu ka dalbaday in ay shacabkawax muuqda u qabtaan oo ay meel ska dhigaan kala qeybsananaata iyo wax qabad al’aanta joogtada ku noqtay xilli laga sugayo wax qabad ay ummada soomaaliyeed la;eyed muddo 15 sano ah dowlad wax u qabata .

^^^ I belive the media reporting is also accurate. Some of the warlords in the alliance gae full support the this execution and the "court" claims that the money from the warlords made this public service possible.. ............................................................ Xuseen Guutaale"Isbaheysigu aad buu u soo dhoweynayaa dilkii qisaasta ahaa ee ay fulisay maxkamada Islaamiga ee Makka Al-Mukarrama" Afhayeenka Isbaheysiga nabadda iyo la dagaalanka argagixisada Xuseen Guutaale Raage ayaa ka hadlay dilkii qisaasta ahaa ee ay fulisay todobaadkan maxkamadda Islaamiga ah ee ku taalla deegaanka Bermuuda ee Maka Al Mukarrama iyadoo uu sheegay Isbaheysigiisu inuu si weyn u taageersan yahay falkaasi qisaasta ahaa ee lagu fuliyay gacan ku dhiig lahaasi. Ceelbuurnet/link to the story..

Kenya still a 'failed state', claims report Story by NATION Correspondent, NEW YORK Publication Date: 5/4/2006 The Failed States Index Rankings Somalia in at no 6 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kenya rose nine places, moving from the "critical'' zone to the "danger'' zone, in the 2006 "Failed States Index'' published yesterday in a US foreign policy journal. Kenya was ranked last year as the world's 25th most vulnerable country in terms of likelihood of succumbing to violent internal conflict. It is now placed in the 34th position, having registered improvements in most of the 12 criteria used to measure state stability. Enhanced effectiveness of government appears to be the key reason for Kenya's rise in the ratings, a report accompanying the index suggests. "Kenya managed to improve despite corruption scandals and a porous border with Somalia," says the assessment carried out by Foreign Policy magazine and the Fund for Peace, a Washington-based think-tank. "Ultimately, it is clear that leadership, not location, matters most," it said. Sudan is rated as the country most likely to suffer collapse. Five other African states – Democratic Republic of Congo, Cote d'Ivoire, Zimbabwe, Chad and Somalia – are listed among the 10 least stable countries. Uganda, in 21st place, is judged to be at a higher risk of failure than Kenya. But Tanzania, ranked 71st, is viewed as the most stable East African country. The United States is ranked 128th in the index of 146 countries. Norway is considered the world's most stable country. Source: Daily Nation, May 4, 2006

Xassan Daahir Aweys:::Qanyare waa nin kusoo caan baxay xasuuqa shacabka Last Updated::2006-05-04 19:34:01 Muqdisho:- Xassan Daahir Aweys oo kamid ah hogaamiyaasha Midowga Maxkamada Muqdisho ee islaamiga ah ayaa jawaab ka bixiyey dhaliiceyn uga timid dhinaca Maxamed Qanyare Afrax. Xassan Daahir Aweys oo ka jawaabaya eedeynmo uga yimid dhinaca Isbaheysiga la dirirka argagaxisada ayaa sheegay in argagaxisada dhabta ah ay yihiin hogeemiye kooxeedka. Xassan Daahir Aweys ayaa si kulul u weeraray Maxamed Qanyare Afrax oo uu ku sheegay nin ka shaqeysta wax allaala wixii xun. "....Maxamed Qanyare wuxuu dhoofin jiray wadaadada lasoo afduubo, wuxuu dhoofiya maandooriyaasha,...waxaana lagu yaqaan dhibka ay shacabka u geystaan..." ayuu yiri Xassan Daahir Aweys oo ka hadlayey Maxamed Qanyare iyo isbaheysiga Deyniile lagu dhisay. Xassan Daahir Aweys ayaa ugu baaqay shacabka in ay la dagaalamaan Isbaheysiga argagaxiso la dirirka oo uu ku tilmaamay sharwadayaal. Mr.Aweys ayaa iska fogeeyey eedeynta ah in dad argagaxiso ah ay dalka Soomaaliya ku sugan yihiin, asagoo markaasi ku nuux nuuxsaday in argagaxisada gudaha Soomaaliya goota ay yihiin qabqablayaasha dagaalka. Maxamed Cabdi HorseedNet.com

Mohamed Qaynyare, a man bent on destruction. This is his first audio interview since March 18... the interview includes... .alks between him and the PM His opinion of the President The reasons for creating the alliance of terror.. The impact on losing Dayniile air strip.. Interview with QAYNYARE,,

^^^ Somali unity is sacred, regardless what and who you think of any individual. The Somali nationa dn people are one. The President is right to make that clear..

Yusuf Addia, Some good points indeed. What is our take on the whole Islamic Courts and the latest clashes in Mogadishu?

I have been disturbed by this whole thing. This court is th only one for a long time to hold a public execution. As soon they do this and the whole of Mogadishu get the name of the court in their mind. Then a few hours later, this NEW court joins the alliance of warlords against the other Courts. Can be all this be a coincidance. I belive it is a plot by the warlord. This is the tragic indeed. May there be peace..

^^^ lol. That was a small incident between local gunmen and a vehicle carrying four guards. The whole eposidoe did not last more than 5 minutes. That has nothing to do with the fact that there are thousands of millitias being trained. The people of Bay have shown their support for the TFG. They will be at the forefront of the new armed forces. However in a nation run for so long by the gun, we expect there to be incidents but no major clashes..