JB as the spokesman of Warlord Siilanyu has to make an excuse. Even his role in these crimes against the SSC clan will Come out in due time.

^^^^I agree with you 100%. This is a big move.

Abtigiis;778879 wrote: Let us be honest. Professor Ali Khalid Galayr has a dubious past, mainly in relation to corruption at mareereey sugar factory. Should the Samatars write about him in foreign land, maybe not. But they sure have a better CV in terms of integrity. Again, none of the people who are commenting here have 1/4 of the knowledge the two professors have. So, they should know their limits. This doesn't apply to Duke andthe punties. In that land, the day you enter grade 11, you buy a reading glass (no matter your age), tie the glass-holder small bag at your waist, firmly attached to your suun, carry a briefcase and that is it: you are a Professor . The place has a misguided sense of self-confidence which is beyond impudence. It borders foolishness. So, these naturally-born professors can critique the samatar professors. There you go again, attacking a whole clan out of envy. This is becoming quite a routine for you. Now how on earth are confidence and ambition a bad thing? Let me remind you that Abdi Smatar attacked not only Galayr but also Mohamed Farmaajo with regards to his education and lack thereof. However he could not utter a single word against Dr. Abdiweli when he was appointed. Again Abdiweli has better credentials and experience than the Smatars’ for the top job not to mention he attained this at a younger age. I await your next installment of insults towards the clan of the North East.

The Zack;778859 wrote: And more importantly he comes short of one huge thing.... he aint from your clan. The denominator is missing here hence your opposition. I think Samatar has great ideas for Somalia, he just doesn't have what it takes to implement those ideas. Yeah he is not from my clan. Neither was Omar Jess from my clan thus what is the relevance? Obviously you support Narnia because of its great plans for the Juba regions right... I had to debunk this idea that Mr. Samatar a Human Geographer was the "most educated, capable blah blah" Somali. When let alone Somali's everywhere, the current PM has better credential, went to better Universities and studied a field that is of importance to governance.

Ergeyga UK ee Soomaaliya iyo Prof. Cabdiweli oo Muqdisho kulan ku yeeshay [War-saxaafadeed] Updated:- 17 hours ago| 1 Commnets Ra’iisul Wasaaraha Soomaaliya Dr Abdiweli Mohamed Ali ayaa maanta xafiiskiisa ku qaabilay Matt Baugh, Ergeyga gaarka ah ee UK. Labada mas’uul ayaa waxey ka wada hadleen xiriirka labada dal, arrimaha roadmap ka iyo horumarka laga sameeyey sida Go’aanadii Garowe (Garowe Principles) iyo shirka 23ka Febraayo lagu wado inuu ka dhaco London. Ergeyga gaarka ah ee dowladda Ingiriiska Matt Baugh ayaa waxaa ku wehliyey booqashadiisa James Hooley oo arrimaha Soomaaliya u qaabilsan dalka UK. Ra’iisul Wasaaraha ayaa ugu horeynta uga mahadceliyey wafdiga Ingiriiska booqashadooda ay ku yimaadeen Muqdisho, iyo sida ay Dowladda UK ay diyaarka ugu tahay inay beesha caalamka si wadajir ah arrimaha Soomaaliya meel uga soo wada jeestaan oo la filayo shirka 23ka Febraayo inuu noqdo shir wax weyn ka bedela arrimaha Soomaaliya. Matt Baugh ayaa sheegay in shirka London ee 23ka February lagu casuumay ilaa 40 Madaxda adduunka ah ujeedaduna tahay sidii beesha caalamka ay uga midoobi lahaayeen xal u helida Soomaaliya, ha noqoto dhanka amniga, burcad-badeeda, gar-gaarka bani’aadanimo iyo dhanka siyaasadda. Ra’iisul Wasaaraha ayaa sheegay in Soomaalida ay rajo weyn ka qabaan shirka London loona baahanyahay in shirku uu noqdo mid Soomaalidu ay aayaheeda ku tashaneyso oo beesha caalamku ay ku saacidayaan, loona baahanyahay in shirka uu tixgeliyo horumarka ballaaran ee laga sameeyey Roadmapka. Horseed Media Xigasho: Xafiiska Raysul Wasaaraha

'Liibaan';778866 wrote: Duke, I am aware all Regional-States have different positions ( Awdal, Somaliland, Khaatumo, Galmudug, Puntland, Azania, Sothern Regions, etc) No one said both 18 regions and 4.5 clan formula will be used equally. The highlighted quote stated " Representation could be from each of the 18 regions of Somalia. Consideration could be given to maintaining the clan balance of representation ( the 4.5 formala). " Liibaan adeer, sorry to burst your bubble but there is nothing new here . The argument of the 18 regions vs the 4.5 formula was already settled in the Garowe conference. Personally I am for the 18 regions as a base for the future Parliament representation and the scrapping of all together the 4.5 formula. It seems that you are putting all your hope in the London conference and that Khatumo will have its day. However if you read the paper closely, there is several times a mention of the UN, UNPOS, AMISOM, Djibouti agreement, Kampala accord, Road Map, Puntland, Somaliland and so on. The same old terms of reference. No mention of Khatumo. But Alas the invitation to this conference was given to you in person I guess..

^^^Unfortunately there are many armed militias, gangs and would be terrorists in the region. Thus security is paramount but development is the next great leap.

^^^^Security trumps infrastructure at the moment. However we are hopeful that things will change for the better.

'Liibaan';778849 wrote: Before: "I read the whole thing and there is no mention of any power sharing or 18 regions or any new ideas. The meeting seems to be rehashing the same old points." Representation could be from each of the 18 regions of Somalia. Consideration could be given to maintainting the clan balance of representation ( the 4.5 formala). After: "That does not even make sense. Also the word could is used and not will." Libaan the title of the thread is ": "Somalia waxa ee waxku Qaybsanasaa 18kii Gobol ee Horey u Jirey" and everything that I have read does not mention power sharing of 18 regions or anything new. Also the highlighted quote which you thought was a major issue, and which you clearly misunderstood states that It could be from the 18 regions while using the 4.5 formula Again nothing new lad. The Garowe meeting already went over this. Puntland position if you remember was to use the 18 regions and this was rejected by the southern delegation and others who said it was too soon and lets stick to the 4.5 formula. Thus nothing knew and there is no way you can use 4.5 and the 18 regions at the same time. It makes no sense.

^^^^It does not have enough money at this time. Soon things will change insha Allah..

^^^The Turks have rattled the Brits. Now we have them trying to do what they always have done. Which is to spoil things.

a water, sewage system for the State Capital would be great.

Representation could be from each of the 18 regions of Somalia. Consideration could be given to maintainting the clan balance of representation ( the 4.5 formala). That does not even make sense. Also the word could is used and not will.

Not bad...

I read #14 and it states clearly that current structures should be built on and that Puntland should be supported. It does not mention Garowe or Hargaysa claim on anyone's land. We can all read anything we want into this. However the clarification that's need from the TFG is that only two regions and more can form a Federal State and thus no room for every single sub clan claiming to be a State. As I have said nothing new here.

What nonsense Abdi Ismael Samatar is a Human Geographer who has less education and Experience than the current PM. Abdiweli not only can sign, but he is a hats are graduate who specialized on governance and economic development. Thus while Mr, Samatar comes up short. On the experience thing he has nit worked on the ground in Somalia nor can h even convince Somali's in Mainnesota let alone those in the old country. He is not charismatic nor a leader of men. Yes he is an adequate pen pusher who knows more about human geography than most of us. How that makes him the most qualified I don't understand. Again who will elect Mr. Samaatar? No one of importance.

It's a 4 day conference it's hardly gonna have any impact other than out the Somali issue on the international agenda for a couple of days.

I read the whole thing and there is no mention of any power sharing or 18 regions or any new ideas. The meeting seems to be rehashing the same old points.

As usual Hiil Qurun and their likes present no solution just empty talk. It's easy to declare contradictory statements from the comfort of ones home in Minneapolis, where ones children are safe and educated. It's another to build something to empower people to transform lives. One will not even argue with the confused fake nationalists who's whole stance is my house, my father and my farm were great. However it's been 21 years and all you have is silly nostalgia when the people have suffered. Yet the only admin that work, that have created something are insulted and those like the Samatars who watched everything from the safety of their homes are praised. Nah Hiil Qurun is not saying much and regional power and develoution one can not avoid.

The Samatars have failed as leaders, this Hiil Qurun stuff is the fantasies of deluded old men. He supports Somaliland now? And Somaliland territorial entigrety is important now? Come on spare us he bull.

Are you still making those silly threats? The Al Shabaab clowns will have no refugee inside Somalia.Mogadishu is already gone. Beledweyne is gone and he rest will fall soon. The assassins of elders and civilians will be assassinated themselves. I know you are angry, tired and desperate and deep down fearful.

The Al Shabaab stooge is still trying to sell us that out of date Milk. Though no one is buying it.

Ouch the secessionists wont like that.

Hiil Qurun Adeer is the creation of lima Samatar. That in itself tells us what's wrong. The fact that over the last 15 years we have observed these two brothers closely one comes to the conclusion that you would not trust a toilet to these two clowns let alone the nation.

Alas poor Maadey has it come to this?