homer: i hope you can hear me up there... HELP ME SUPERMAN!!!! homer at the bank -Hellllllo, my name is mr. burns, and I would like to get some money" - ok mr, bruns , what is your first name - I dont knoooow (batman theme) dananana-dananana BATMAN...i mean LEADER!!!

homer: i hope you can hear me up there... HELP ME SUPERMAN!!!! homer at the bank -Hellllllo, my name is mr. burns, and I would like to get some money" - ok mr, bruns , what is your first name - I dont knoooow (batman theme) dananana-dananana BATMAN...i mean LEADER!!!

homer: i hope you can hear me up there... HELP ME SUPERMAN!!!! homer at the bank -Hellllllo, my name is mr. burns, and I would like to get some money" - ok mr, bruns , what is your first name - I dont knoooow (batman theme) dananana-dananana BATMAN...i mean LEADER!!!

he alledgedly threathened her with a knife, to be fair, thats not just any parental threat of discipline.

okay, mizz, i finally got you, it s just that the word "killed" disturbed me. and miskiin, what dont you understand? and what do you mean by "free"? was she caged up before? and what do you mean by sexed up? im serious, im curious as to what you mean.

yaa used me skinner, ya UUUUUUSED ME!<---grounds keeper willie.

yaa used me skinner, ya UUUUUUSED ME!<---grounds keeper willie.

yaa used me skinner, ya UUUUUUSED ME!<---grounds keeper willie.

yaa used me skinner, ya UUUUUUSED ME!<---grounds keeper willie.

i didnt say it was just a somali thing, all im asking is what made you say the parents would be justified in killing her? cause to tell the truth that shocked me, especially when other people started agreeing.

Originally posted by MIZZ-UNIQUE: quote:Originally posted by somealien: mizz unique, i agree with pretty much everything you said in your second paragaph and im still trying to wrap my mind around your first one. i mean, if what i have in mind is the right story than she was downright disrespectful to her parents for accusing them of such a thing, but her behaviour prior to it really didnt warrant her to be killed, and i think that if this had been a boy conforming, wearing baggy clohes, braiding his hair and found talking to a white girl hed be slightly teased, or at most yelled at and chastised, and the whole subject would be dropped. why is that? walaalo if it was a boy i think he would get beat too and he would get yelled at too but he would not make a big deal out if as we girls do.boys get beat while we get yelled at ..they get the physical pain.. ...no boy would be cought wearing something around his parents and changing when he gets to school he does in front of them and that is a different case they yell and pray for him and sometimes whoop him but no one can force someone to change their attitudes they will give up eventually..... islamic girs on the other hand are always considered to victimised when its the total opposite... ...they (parents)wont worry about the boys as much as the girls because he wont end up pregnant,he wont get rapped(most cases) and like i said earlier they want us to have a good reputation and they would not want to have gabar dhilo aah(reputation is a big deal to us somalis)...I dont have a brother so i cant say what my mom would have done but trust me when i say this when my mom and dad had their first child my older sister MY DAD SWORE IF HE WAS GIVEN 99 SONS HE WOULD LOVE MY SISTER MORE CUZ SHE WAS HIS FIRST CHILD. .children according to somalis are the same they love their daughters as much as the boys in not more and show tuff love to the girls cuz they dont want society to look down on their girls .(they want to have a good child everyone envies)..and we all know our society would call the girl dhilo and other names if she was cought with a man....all he tried to do was scare to save her reputation i dont thinks that doocil was a thankfull......ama agree with athena i think she is older than age they say she is :rolleyes: ....... the boy wont end up pregnant, but he could impregnate a girl, and to an extreme become a victimiser and be the rapist. i know, there are different things to worry about when dealing with a son and a daughter, but in this comment you said:" no one can force someone to change their attitudes they will give up eventually....." but when talking about the girl, you said they (the parents) have every right to kill her. that just struck me as odd, and as far as the reputation thing, i think thats one of our downfalls as a people. we worry too much about reputation, and what other people are thinking about us than the stuff that really matters. everything is about keeping up appearances so youll sacrifice your kids well being so theyll never embarass you? someone else made an entire post dedicated to how much they hate somalis for their gossiping ways, but by making your self-worth, or yr childs self-worth dependant on what other people think or say is messed up in itself, no? again im not saying parents shouldnt discipline their kid, i dont think any parent should be afraid of disciplining their kids, which is why i said i felt bad for the kids who are accually being abused cause theyll never be believed, im just saying your kid doesnt deserve a death penalty for dissapointing you.

Originally posted by Athena: I really dont beleive the girl.If a father abuses his kids on a regular basis, chances are the mother is gonna kick him out...its extremely rare that both parents sanction abuse of their kids mutually. : thats not necessarily true. i agree with you that the girl is probably lying but in alot of abuse cases in which the man of the house is abusing his kids, be it physically or sexually, the mother either turns a blind eye out of fear of facing reality or fear for her own well being and will usually adamently defend her spouse. im not saying thats whats going on in this case, but things like that happen. mizz unique, i agree with pretty much everything you said in your second paragaph and im still trying to wrap my mind around your first one. i mean, if what i have in mind is the right story than she was downright disrespectful to her parents for accusing them of such a thing, but her behaviour prior to it really didnt warrant her to be killed, and i think that if this had been a boy conforming, wearing baggy clohes, braiding his hair and found talking to a white girl hed be slightly teased, or at most yelled at and chastised, and the whole subject would be dropped. why is that?

i feel bad for the kids who are accually being abused.

Originally posted by Khayr: Salaamz, I just wanted to know especially from the 'Dhaqaan Fanatic', and everyone knows who that person is, why Somali Fathers are joining the ranks of Afro-American Fathers in terms of Abondoning their kids and not paying child support. It seems from my experience, that the Old School 'Dhaqaan' Loving Somali Fathers think that its against their 'Dhaqaan' to show love to their kids and be their for them. Its like its Not manily to show love your kids. With respect to the Child Support concept, do Somali Fathers consider it to be Haram, a SIN, if they pay child support. Help me out here cause I need some clarification. Fi Amanallah im guessin but id say its halal, because as a father its your duty to take care of your kids and if you cant be there physically for whatever reason, be it friction between yr spouse, job, wtv, providing them with things theyll nedd (clothes, books, etc), is like caring for them. and as for "abandoning" their kids, id say there are a number of reasons, but if you wanna look in the af. american community as a reference than id say poverty would be the #1 reason. having a great responsibility like raising a child and feeling helpless without a job would make some men flee from the whole situation.

when you say "gaalo", do you mean whites, or do you mean christians?

ill start. oh, no! i was wrong, it was earth all along. <---from planet of the apes musical milhouse gets an earing and everyone on the bus thinks its cool. bart: im even cooler, can anybody do this? *does bart dance* nelson: that is soooooo 1990. homer's brain: dont say revenge! dontsay revengge! homer: Revenge!? bart: i wanna be reincarnated into a butterfly. lisa: why? bart: cause nobody ever suspects the butterfly. muhahahah!

ill start. oh, no! i was wrong, it was earth all along. <---from planet of the apes musical milhouse gets an earing and everyone on the bus thinks its cool. bart: im even cooler, can anybody do this? *does bart dance* nelson: that is soooooo 1990. homer's brain: dont say revenge! dontsay revengge! homer: Revenge!? bart: i wanna be reincarnated into a butterfly. lisa: why? bart: cause nobody ever suspects the butterfly. muhahahah!

ill start. oh, no! i was wrong, it was earth all along. <---from planet of the apes musical milhouse gets an earing and everyone on the bus thinks its cool. bart: im even cooler, can anybody do this? *does bart dance* nelson: that is soooooo 1990. homer's brain: dont say revenge! dontsay revengge! homer: Revenge!? bart: i wanna be reincarnated into a butterfly. lisa: why? bart: cause nobody ever suspects the butterfly. muhahahah!

ill start. oh, no! i was wrong, it was earth all along. <---from planet of the apes musical milhouse gets an earing and everyone on the bus thinks its cool. bart: im even cooler, can anybody do this? *does bart dance* nelson: that is soooooo 1990. homer's brain: dont say revenge! dontsay revengge! homer: Revenge!? bart: i wanna be reincarnated into a butterfly. lisa: why? bart: cause nobody ever suspects the butterfly. muhahahah!

i think i could do it if i didnt have to cover my face, i dont have a good sense of direction. id prolly get tangled in the cloth and suffocate. laugh, but with my luck thats what would happen, im really clumsy. i like the idea of reinventing too, itd be cool cause i know penty of dancehall moves, reggae dances but only like 1 somali dance and i only know it in theory and that aint right.

schools almost starting and i believe most of you guys are college stdents such as i and well, i was just thinking how the education sysem is really flawed. its flawed in the sense that you never really learn anything. all they really ask of you is to properly spew out facts that you have to cram into yr head for exam time and get that 4.0 avg. every now and than you get a teacher who accually teaches you something instead of shoving facts down your throat that youll have to memorize in time for the next quiz. theyre usually bitter, quick witted and despised by the majority of the class. my favorite teacher in college so far was Irini Tsakiri, for my elements of culture class. shes my favorite because well, to be honest, her character won me over. she made fun of every right wing, white bread, i love america CANADIAN in the class, but she also taught me something. that EVERYTHING is political, and everyone has an agenda. yeah, well, tell me about your favorite teacher so far, whether in high school, university, hell even a neighbour whos taught you something valuable or opened yr eyes to something.

nope, i live in a van down by the RIVER!!!! *sobs uncontrollably*

i think of money as a burden, other than procuring myself some food and shelter and clothes its completely useless. seriously, all the secondary stuff like gadgets and cars are just distractions, distracting you from how empty yr life really is.

hasnt high school taught you guys anything? this isnt ony a somali thing, granted the average somali gossips may be higher but still, not everyone who is friendly is yr friend, and who told you to choose yr friends by nationality? anyways, highschool taught me that it was always the insecure and people with tooo much time on their hands who were the most viscious so maybe you should befriend some people who have lives of their own, that way theyll be too busy to worry about yours. my best friend is somali and if there were anyone i could count on to have my back itd be her and vice versa and i dont think it has anything to do with our nationalities.

does that include you?