This nonsense gets under my skin. On the one hand you talk about the abundance of mosques, libraries and scholars back home and on the other you say that Islam is stronger in the West! Who built those mosques and libraries then? Little green men? A couple of Pakistani/Indian/Somali guys rioting because Rushdie got an award or that some paper drew cartoons does not equal Islam being stronger in the West. Ms DD, stop this and go back to your great articles from Arab News. You’re planting some crazy ideas n the heads of these Nomads and most of your (you and they) evidence is anecdotal.

One vital ingredient in many popular bread brands is pig testacies, silly. Always read the label.

Yes Xan. It says it on the back of the bag! Do you ever bother to read that stuff?

^^ You can freeze bread for months, silly. ** Pushes Cara and all the other feminists out of the way ** Xan, You need to fix this problem quick, no mother is going to trust her drippling son with someone that can't cook.

^^ Looking at other news (though it has not been confirmed yet) it sounds like the TFG is already leaking Ministers. Do you think Cadiid and Buuba are undesirables now and would this amnesty apply to them?

^^^ Ayuub dicaayda wan ka ogoladay lakin adiga you're not allowed. cawar bad eska tahay xaggad signs of improvements ka arki laheed

Originally posted by -Serenity-: Any stretches of the truth? A couple. Like I'm supposed to be able to do flash animations and I cant. Hate that software with a passion. Also, I'm supposed to know UML well, which I dont because I hated that module in university. But, I've actually brushed up on UML on my own. The thing with stretching the truth is, you can only stretch so much, like claiming to know something well when you're just a beginner. It makes for a terrible impression and embarrassment if you lie and are caught otherwise. JB , will you stop braggin please? This is strictly the suffering working class joint. You have not heard about this guy then: From The TimesJune 15, 2007 Hotels boss quits over fake qualifications Dominic Walsh To add one fictitious qualification to one’s CV might be overlooked as poetic licence. But to claim three degrees from some of the world’s leading universities must be dangerously close to fraud. The only consolation for Patrick Imbardelli, who until yesterday was chief executive of InterContinental Hotels Group’s Asia Pacific region, was that he was allowed to resign after his deception was discovered rather than suffering the additional ignominy of being sacked. Mr Imbardelli’s duplicity was discovered only when IHG ran checks on his academic background ahead of his elevation to the group’s main board next month. The company announced yesterday that he would no longer be joining the board and had resigned. IHG said that the checks had revealed that he had earned none of the degrees on his CV. He claimed to have two from Cornell University in America – a Bachelor of Science in Hotel Administration and a Master of Business Administration – plus a Bachelor of Business Studies and Hotel Management from Victoria University in his native Australia. A spokesman for IHG said: “We understand he attended classes at both universities but did not graduate from either.” He said that the group had no issue with Mr Imbardelli’s ability to do his job, adding: “With s o m e t h i n g like this, the fundamental basis of trust is undermined.” He refused to say why the group had decided to run the checks but admitted that they were not routine. “Information came to light subsequently to the announcement of his appointment to the board.” Analysts suggested that the mention of a degree from Victoria University in the announcement may have prompted someone who knew that it was false to blow the whistle. The 46-year-old will receive no payoff, although IHG has agreed to pay him for another two months to give him time to arrange the transfer of his family from Singapore, where his office is based, back to Australia. He is married with two children, aged two and four. Mr Imbardelli’s fall from grace is all the more acute given his recent successes. Just two weeks after David Webster, IHG’s chairman, was lauding the “wealth of experience” and “operational management skills” he would bring to the board, he was named Hotelier of the Year at the Asia Pacific Hotel Investment Conference. The Australian, who is thought to have been on a salary of between £300,000 and £400,000, was highly respected in the industry, having spent 25 years working for companies such as Hilton International, Hyatt Corporation and Southern Pacific Hotels. He became managing director of IHG’s Asia Pacific region in 2003. His resignation has shocked friends and colleagues alike. One said: “He’s a good guy and well liked within the business. It’s very sad but when the facts came out he had to resign. He did the right thing.” Mr Imbardelli joined IHG, then part of Bass, in 2000. His personnel file, complete with the false CV, was transferred across without any checks being made. He was probably tempting fate when, in a recent interview with Hotel magazine, he said: “IHG is a FTSE 100 company with 3,300 hotels worldwide, and I’m not going to jeopardise our reputation.” Degrees of mendacity InterContinental Hotels joins a growing list of embarrassed employers. If Barings Bank had dug a little deeper before hiring Nick Leeson, it may have uncovered the county court judgments he omitted in his application. Similarly, Radio Shack, the US electronics retailer, failed to spot the discrepancies in the CV of Dave Edmondson, its chief executive. He claimed to have earned two degrees from a small Bible college he had attended for just a year. In 2002 Ronald Zarrella, chairman and chief executive of Bausch & Lomb, kept his job after the eye-care company learnt that he did not earn an MBA from New York University. The board declined Mr Zarrella’s offer to resign but he forfeited a $1.1 million bonus. Richard Li, chairman of Hong Kong telecoms group PCCW, had to remove claims on his company’s website he graduated from Stanford. Ann Wilson, managing director of BBC Technology, was sacked in 2004 for “misuse of hospitality”. It was later discovered that she was a convicted fraudster. In 1997, she had resigned as head of global electronic commerce at Philips subsidiary Origin after her record came to light. Even after the BBC, she got a job at headhunter Korn/Ferry and was made a nonexecutive director at Datamonitor. In June 2005, less than four months after hiring her, Datamonitor announced she had resigned “for personal reasons”. JB, looks like you've got yourself quite a harem there.

^^ Are you implying that there is something wrong with my use of Somali? I resent that statement.

Originally posted by Northerner: NG, I see your tired of the humous and grilled kebabs ps have you gone off the 'caseer' aswell? ..never could go of the caseer, saaxib. Damn you! Now I went me some fruit salad (a proper fruit salad)

^^ Do you have a sign dangling from your neck with the words 'This person lives alone'?

Xan, What's wrong with cheese-on-toast, you demanding woman! Talking of food, does anyone know of any Ugandan restaurants in London? For a few months now I've been craving Ugandan maize with curry. Kawonga, baby, kawonga.

It was an informative and serious thread; unfortunately meel aan loo baahneen ayuu u leexday -- trivial, negative personalization. Hala isdhaamo, oo hala kala wareegsado, qasab ma'aha in la isku jawaabo, jawaab aan micno ku fadhin siiba. This thread is very important ee yaa lagu ciyaarin. No offence saaxib. But why do you always let your emotions take over? waxad leedahay this thread was informative! xago informative ka aha? THE THREAD I mean. In fact, I think it was offensive and insulting. mala meel an anigo wax ka arko adinko, being emotionally attached to the situation, kama aragtan! Waayahay, saaxib. Bal indhaha masax oo akhriso waxan kuu so qori dona (eleen adaa meesha ka admin): The NYT article was an informative article and was worth posting. However, Kashafa did NOT post the article, he only posted the juicy, sensational parts of it. Nothing wrong with that of course. But, he then went on to use all of the article and the sad situation in ****** as a stick to beat the TFG supporters with. This happened on the FIRST post, marka anoo san o arko, this thread markiisa hore ba mid qaloocsan bu ahaa oo meel xun bu ka so bilabmay! I don't for a minute think that Kashafa meant it in this way. But, as I told him time and time again, he's just an angry young man who lets his emotions get the better of him. I don't want to increase your burden here as I'm sure you've got enough on your plate but I still reckon you should have stepped in much earlier. After the first three posts on the thread (read them again if you like) even a blind man could see where things were heading. Wax informative, wax faido ku jirto ama wax dadka wax o khurdin laha, meeshan ku ma jiran. Try to suspend your hatred for the TFG and their supporters (of which I'm not one) long enough to see when threads attacking that group are just WRONG. arr badow yan la wada noqon, entaan edin la joogo ega faideesta nacal shaklak.

^^ Heh. You must have thighs like an elephant, saaxib. All those strange hills and ugly old buildings! Ugly, ugly city.

^^^ 10,000 daily MUSLIM hits is probably much more (as a percentage) than 500000 Brits. The Express preaches to the converted, my dear. Besides, MPAC seemed too obsessed with the comments of the readers of The Express than of the article itself! Look at the first two quotes in your firs post. Those words were not written by The Express, they were the comments made by average readers. Does that matter much? If it does to you, then go to the MPAC site and read the comments (by MPAC readers) replying to this article! It's that lovely old concept, Xan..FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

Originally posted by xiinfaniin: GG, really? You are not credible adeer. I mean I don’t believe you are abstaining to participate in this thread for the reasons you stated. NG was quite duplicitous too there. Here is a great article on one of America's premier News paperes detailing Ethiopia’s brutalities in that region. It could be the case that most of the things maintioned were known to you, or to NG, before. But one would think the fact that American people are exposed to such a blatant cruelty funded by their admin should be good enough for one to share his/her take on it, and at least discuss the potential congressional oversight it could unravel on DoB’s spendings! Heh. Point out my duplicity, saaxib. Go on, point it out. Had the angry kid posted the article and left it at that it would have been easy to see the point of the thread. In fact, it might have generated some useful discussion. But he was not content with letting the words of the articles speak for themselves. His was not really an attack on Ethiopia. He would rather waste his time chasing traitors, collaborators and so-called cowards. Even then, had it been about the TFG one would have to accept his arguments. But it's not even that, o wise Xiin! It's about irrelevant people such as Duke, Horn, et al! I have no axes to grind with the TFG, ICU or Ethiopia. However, what I dislike are people that believe themselves to be on the right yet do all the wrong things to prove their righteousness. I said it before and repeat it again: the ICU, as a concept and as administrators, were great. But their politics let them down. However, that does not mean that in order for their supporters to still carry their message they HAVE to resort to cheap (and frankly) quite pointless attacks on those that don't rate the ICU as a viable political movement. I still maintain that this thread is pointless and think it should be removed. Maybe you should start a new one with the article alone. You never know, the traitors might surprise you with some sound logic (though I doubt it). Whatever you do, you wont be able to do it with those ICU rose tinted goggles on. Take them off and try some objectivity, o wise xiin.

I agree with the part about their sources. The rest does not really matter that much. It's a tabloid paper read by 500,000 Britons (that is less than the entire population of Sheffield by the way).

^^^ Aha! Now I know who you are. You're the Somali girl that works in the Nigerian Embassy!

Heh. I see Khashafa is busting yet another blood vessel! Could this be termed a tantrum? Bas, adeer, bas..xuuxii xabashiga wan dilnay..bas, adeer, bas On a serious note, I don’t see how this thread is allowed to stay. It serves no purpose and only aims to provoke.

I have now read the article and can't really see what the problem there is. MPAC is a much worse site than the Express.

^^^ Because they don't carry a shiisha in their pockets all the time

^^ Heh. Like I said, I'm tempted. Things will become clearer in the coming couple of weeks. If the offer is good I would not be able to resist.

^^ You didn't provide a source for the nonsense above nor did you provide a link to the article it's talking about! Nobody takes the Daily Express seriously. I mean it's ten years later and their front page headlines are still about Princess Di!

^^ I've been looking for one of his books (not hard enough I admit) and couldn't find any. Wasn't the Waris Dirie's book just a load of lies and exaggerated facts?

^^ I quit smoking two years ago. (Shiisha does not count).

Originally posted by Jolie Femme: If she got married to him while he was married & had kids and now wants to move him away to live with her...I'm sorry but that's evil to break up a family like that (if I got the situation right). Heh! You little drama queen Thousands of Somali men leave their wives back home to go and look for a job abroad. They've done it for centuries and they're still doing it now. In fact, I actually suspect that the concept of family, in the way you imagine, does not exist in Somalia. There is nothing to break. Needs must! If the man's wife in Europe can get him the sharci and move him away to the lands of milk and honey so that he's able to send his wife in Africa and his children the most sought after beeeel, I would actually consider this lady (the Europe wife) a saint rather than an evil person. You girls have turned into a group of middleclass blue-eyed Westerners. Love the way you try to impose your values on this quintessential Somali couple. On this occasion, I daresay that even Khayer would agree with me on the application of moral relativism. Ps Pointless gossip is no good. Tell her to phone her husband.