Horn Much respect to you bruv....You are a TRUE Somali, stay course and don't be discouraged the road ahead is bumping and rough. Zack I think posting the private messages btw you and Horn was LOW. You owe him an apology.

I don't see why some ppl. are jumping on Nasra for her comments about Somalis......me think as much as she has the right to be proud of Somalis (which I hope is the case, otherwise she deserves the outrage) she also has the right to be critical or judgemental of them..Afterall she is one of us....I will rather hear from her than others.

MMA I read the paper too....I must say she is beautiful and gorgeous. She seems to be someone who understands her backround and is respectful of her faith and culture unlike Iman and the fool Baaris Diiriye. I say power to her...I just hope she doesn't get caught or lost in the world of beauty, It can destroy you if one is not careful. All the best to you Yasmin.

nuune Is it worth it to get that book???? Should I spend my money on unsubstantiated remarks??? I had the opp. of meetin this woman and let say this i think she has an IQ of 16 yrs. old. Walahi I aint kiddin.

I think i like his visionary/idea for his country....what can i say quite a revolutionary and pragmatic. I wish Somalia will produce his like. my 2cents.

Deaf Mom or Dad

Tamina Said: During the colonial period, they didn't respect Islaam. They were looking for ways they can indirectly rule the masses n' seek their co-operation. Islam was well established for many hundreds of years, and if they even tried to convert muslims that would've caused an upset n' the Europeans weren't prepared to deal with that. Exactly what am saying....the Europeans understood the civilazation of Islam and were willing to work around Islam to win the masses. But the Americans are actually challenging Islamic way of lives...and thats where the difference lies. During the cold war Americans were helping and working with Muslims to defeat communism....why have things changed since then???Go figure. BTW you were right when u said the europeans were not prepared to upset Islamic ways of live because they knew very well as far as they stay away from Islam they will be save...unfortunately the Americans wants to change the Islamic way of life for a few bucks. Mind u they dont want "moderates" like you to take over Islam BUT also to REFORM ISLAM to conform to there interest....believe me.

petite Couldn't agree with u more, sis. First thing comes first....America declared war against Muslims, its not the other way around FYI. Muslims in most cases do not declare war unless Islam is challenged. During the colonial period when the British and French were physically controlling Muslim countries no one declared a religious war aginst them....the reason being they respected the religion of Islam and as such arabs/somalis/pakistanis were each fighting for there Independence from a foreign invader. When Britain/Italy colonized Somalia they respected our faith and culture unlike places such as Kenya where they forced Christianity down there throat. Now on the other hand the American imperealist whats to impose there ways of lives on other people all in the name of the Almighty dollar. They want u to wear there clothings, shoes, watch there movies wether you like it or not. And Islam is challenging the idea of capitalist for life...this is where the confrotation lies not civilization clash. Now for American to win this war they are using there millitary might,and propaganda. The propaganda is that Islam has been hijacked by extremist. What they want here is to cause a division among the Muslims by accusing non active (moderates) Muslims for being quite when Islam is politicized. They want us to participate in there war against the only idealogy that is challenging western exploitation. They ask where r the Muslim moderates??? I ask where are the American Moderates when there state is killing and destroy lives around the world????

Rocky Chick My bad for using the wrong abbreviation.....I meant R.C. You said Of course you dont have an issue, yet, you felt it necessary to point out; it is the it thing nowadays for somalis to have a white friend, and you wondered whether or not it symbolizes something....see where I am going with this, I hope so Yes i pointed that out for the following reasons: 1) You gave us a name of your friend without mentioning His race and then accuse Thunder of being mad of "your white friend". 2)The IN thing (having white friends) does not only apply to Somali females , somali males included...well unless you think that whites befriend somali females only, that in that case i will have an issue. BTW happy Canada Day...eh..

K.C said "It seems to me that somali guys have an issue when it comes to non-somali males ........Now, why is that???????? I think I am gonna post a topic about this......huuuuhmmmmmmmm Whats all this about Walaal....i wasnt even thinking for a moment about the non-somali male nor did it matter to me. We bring this issue if there is any at all....unless you want to make it an issue. Believe me I dont give hoot about it, my concern was your reaction to thunder (please see my respond to Mandeeq about that). FYI i am a Canadian too and I understand the social dynamics of this country...thank you very much.

Mandeeq I added the rest of statements because ok K.C's asumming that Thunder was either upset of her asking about masturbation (which i said was valid question ) or of the fact that She-a somali girl- was talkin to a white dude (Again I didn't say there was anything wrong). I was only trying to respond to the later statements she made, she also said "my friend mark asked me"--she didnt identify his color, she asumed he was upset by the fact that she was talkin to a white dude. How was he suppose to know. Mark is a universal name nowadays. It doesn't matter who asked her whether masturbation is Haraam or not...

Rock Chick Your question has been answered by knowledgeable brothers and sisters {Jaazakallahu}. I think the question is appropriate and the brother who questioned your ADAB was out of line. But out of curiosity why did you find necessary to mention your friends name...this is cyberworld....is it to let us know that you have white friends?? Sis. who asked the question is irrelevant to us/or the question asked, unless you wanted to point out that u have white friends. Beside how were we suppose to know Mark is white??? Nowadays having "white friends" is the IN thing with Somalis (not to say there is anything wrong with whites)...phrase like I hung with non-somali is very common with Somalis, I wonder if its suppose to symbolize something or does it give one a different status.

What Independence???? Somalia is not independent and it has never been independent. Nothing to celebrate especially at this time of our history. But looking forward to that day, InshaAllah, hopefully soon