hehe Alpha getting emotional from the questions posed by Nin Yaaban, waryaa Alpha, dee caadi iska dhig, nin dhan baa ku sharfey oo jidkaa dheer soo marey si uu jawaabo kaaga helo adna you became touche!

Gheelle, nimanka waxaa lagu qiyaasey 10-15, 15 to be exact when CCTV were studied and from eye witnesses who seen them, sheekada hada jirta waxaa weeye, hal nin waxaa la toogtey maalintii sabtida darraato, dhaawiciisina usbitalka ayaa la keenay halkaas uu ku naf-weeray. Taas waa la hubaa, sheekada kalee jirta ayaa waxey tahey in Kenya ay sheegatey maanta iney dileen saddex nin, taas oo illaa hada wax la cadeeyay aysan jirin waana qiiq isku qaris lagu qarinayo nimankii shalayto baxsadey ee illaa afarta ahaa, kolleey nimanku wax wey ka dhimanayaan taas waa la hubaa, balse waxaad ogaan doontaa in dhamaantood ay wada baxsan doonaan, how and the method waa sheeka ay soo diyaarsadeen the attackers, waana sheekadii ay shalayto afartaa ku baxsadeen, qaabkey u baxsadeen waxaa lagu study gareeyay CCTv, balse Kenyan media were told not to broadcast anything related to that baxsasho as it will be a bad PR for Kenya. imisaa soo hartey(inta baxsatey kolka laga reebo) waa la ogyahey, imisaa dhimatey(inta ay Kenya iska sheegatey iney dishey) waa la hayaa, imisaa baxsatey(sida la qariyey waa afar) waa lala socdaa, yeysa ahaayeen(shabaab wey naqdiyeen wadamadii lagu lifaaqey nimankan illaa al'aankana lama oga) lama shaacin, xaaladu waa saas, Jinni iima warramin balse xogteyda dad ku dhaw Westgate ayaan ka heystaa oo jooga agagaarkaas.

Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar;979111 wrote: Nuunka, saa ula socotid Westgate Nakumatt weyn ku dhex yaalo oo laba dabaq iyo bar ka kooban. Iyagana waxee iskugu tageen Nakumatt, waana taatiko garan karo qofka Nakumattka tagay. Marka raashiin sanadooyin ay isticmaali karaan waa heystaan iyo meelo badan ay ku gambadaan. Sawirka kor ku dhagan oo tilmaameyso meesha qiiqa ka socdo waa qeybta Nakumatt kaga taalo moolkaas, waa saa u ogahay. Maskiin, Nakumatt kor ku yaalo ma aanan galin, balse dhowr jeer aan ku shaaheeyay dabaqa dhexe, the recent one myself, JB & Moti aan aheyn, iyo other high profile people oo UNta iyo UNSOM u shaqeeya, Mahiga was just sitting next to us too at the time asoo kolba dhinaceena soo fiirinaayey seeking our attention. The attackers are professional, and know how to escape, already few of them waa baxsadeen but the Kenyan government is not talking about that as it will be a complete shame and disaster on their PR, shalayto ayey baxsadeen dhowr ka mida, and there is not more than 3 or 4 of them there now as insider reports indicate.

^^ Thanks Ibti for the update, the picture in that website clearly says or tells the doubters of what I said about the flight which arrived on 21 of September, it carried the Somaliland ministers as well. And it is the Dash plane Bombardier, sii jeedkeeda eeg, a pleasant quite plane indeed.

^ lol inaar, the attackers managed to ate all all the food in the mall, while the hostages were given none, haye u getting this info about gaajadii aduunka in there

Waa kuwan iska laafyoonaya, the attackers are well equipped, with vest-bombs on them and huge loads of ammunition

The Mall right now

- Kenya's Interior Minister Joseph Ole Lenku said two Islamic extremists were killed on Monday. Meanwhile, Kenya Chief of Defense forces General Julius Karangi said he believes the attackers are "a multinational collection from all over the world". - A former US General has said that America was considering to hit al Shabab militants' in Kenya by "refining target lists". Former Army Vice Chief of Staff Gen. Peter Chiarelli said, "They're developing targets . . . and refining target lists, trying to fill in any gaps that we possibly have" on potential locations of al Shabaab strongholds in Kenya". - An al Shabab military commander named Abu Omar, who claims to be in contact with the gunmen inside the mall, claimed that no women or Westerners were involved in the attack. Speaking to the BBC radio, he said the reports of Britons or Americans being involved were "baseless rumours". "To verify, we do not employ our sisters to carry out military attacks of this type," he added.

THE Israeli special forces, the Sayeret, have gone into the Nairobi shopping mall under siege by a terror group, The shopping centre is owned by Israelis and renowned as a place where many Israelis hang out. The Sayeret is an elite secret Israeli commando unit responsible for counter-terrorist and top secret intelligence gathering and hostage rescue missions It is considered the most effective counterterrorism force in the world and is a highly secretive special-operations brigade. It has famously been involved in operations in Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan, and, perhaps most famously, Uganda, where its commandos freed 103 Jewish hostages after a 1976 hijacking. In the last hour, a loud explosion sent thick smoke billowing from the mall. The blast was followed by other smaller detonations and volleys of gunfire but there was no indication of the fate of people whom the authorities say are being held by 10 to 15 Islamist gunmen who took the complex by storm on Saturday. Read more, Source

^^ Qansax, I am just agreeing with him for the sake of saqajaanimo, lets say he has habits in drinking, can that go against whatever he achieved(am assuming he writes books)

Alpha, whoever he is, you seem to be attacking his habits, attack his achievements if any, but attacking someone's habits is like attacking your habits too(like why you like to hire maids from Oromia, it is a bad habit, but it would not go against your achievements, the garden & the library, inaar, ma garatey)

Adaaba yaqaano anigu maba aqaano ee warka ii balbalaadhi, ma sir buu kaa faafiyeyna

Tolka, who, ninkan, yaa waaye, qabyaalad, maxaa tidhi, inaar

President Siilaanyo can do a better job than him, I would say, lets crown President Siilaanyo!

^^ Alpha, I will not share anything with you, calling me beenaale all over the places. don't forget that I am not a reliable source to you inaar, I want raali galin and a BIG marduuf qaada on my next visit to Hargeisa, just nooca Dhajjiska loo yaqaano bas ayaan cunaa oo afka aburka ka kiciya dadka sidii mas xuub-siibtey camal.

Nin Yaaban, well Alshabaab paraded their names and nationalities on their websites(6 websites they run with no names, just IP addresses only)

- Reliable sources indicate the Israeli commandos moved in there after studying the situation all day, they are well equipped and can withstand a grenade attack on them. - Kenya government made a special request to Israeli government earlier in the morning, already the Israeli forces were in Nairobi as special adviser to protect Israeli interests in the region. - The attackers were from 9 different nationalities.

Latest: - No Ethiopian Airlines flights today to Hargeisa airport. - for the 4th day, there are no Ethiopian airlines flights to Berbera airport.

That is the landing status yesterday for you, want to know the take off status, you will have to pay a service fee to get that inaar, I only accept Credit Cards, no Xawaala. Attached files

^^ What happened today in the mall is a barbaric act, inhumane, and Alshabaab for carrying out should be sliced down one by one. It doesn't matter to Alshabaab whether the end target is children, women, as long they are doing it inside Kenya, they don't care. Kaalay adu, why are you not mentioning the 20+ who died today in Mogadishu as a result of Alshabaab bombs in the Bakaara, most of them were women and children, bal arrintaa eeg ee don't flow with where the media focuses.

I said, again, Both entities are fighting each other in Somalia, and now in Kenya. Tell me what is wrong with that, are they not fighting each other in Somalia, recently the other day they clashed outside Bu'aale, an Alshabaab territory, and in Kenya, many times before we have seen Alshabaab throwing bombs, and now at Westgate, so inside Somalia, and Kenya, ma muran baa ka taagan, whatever the end target is whether innocent or not, doesn't matter to them! Alshabaab and many other groups should be eliminated from the face of the earth, that we agree, but also don't forget the powerful force in the name of a country doing the same to innocents, that is Ethiopia, Kenya, Uganda, Burundi etc

There are armed police forces outside the Westgate most of the time and surroundings, even kuwa dharcad ah ayaa inta badan ilaaliya oo hoos hub ku wato, this place is frequented by wealthy Kenyans, expats and UN agency staff, security is always very high, at entrance, metal detectors are there(of course this is nothing since once you are armed you can go inside and kill the staff at the metal detectors). Laakinse ma ahan arrinta in ay iska celin waayeen Alshabaab, balse their confrontation in war zone is being questioned, they totally lack that. The high casualty was the result of lack of proper handling of the situation, or lack of proper tactic PLUS heart.

- The actions by Alshabaab today in Nairobi are barbaric, inhumane, children, women and men are being killed, their action was a symbolic gesture that they can operate in Kenya freely. - The same is true, Kenyan army doing their share of the barbaric acts on daily bases, killing and throwing missiles at villages, children, men and women being killed, their main reason, in Somalia, they say, is that they are after Alshabaab who kidnapped some tourists in Kenya back then. - Both entities are fighting each other in Somalia, and now in Kenya.

Analyst argue that with proper training, the police and soldiers could have saved many lives.

- Kenya Police & military still struggling to get the killers or any hostages out of the MALL. - Foreign commandos, including that of British, Israelis & FBI had just reached Westgate. - Kenyans are blaming their government's lack of action to end the siege.