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Aw Muuse Ismaciil I completely agree with you on all your points. My issue with the article that is that it is basically saying that Reer Maakhir are being shafted and if this continue there will be consequences. They have never been shafted, they now have a heavyweight politician in Ilko-Jiir and need to figure out how to promote him! They only have themselves to blame if they continue with their current path. Because there are candidates who are making plans everyday. Koora-Tuunshe, The facts are in the Picture that is why I provided them. Eid Waanagsan to all!!!
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Some pics of the oil exploration of 2008, These men are working in the middle of no where and are now employeed and feeding how many children? nieces, nephews and other family members? Yet the writer says this in the article Range Resources, Ltd escorted by Puntland militia arrived in Majiyahan (western Bari) to collect sample minerals without the communities' consent. It quickly turned into a deadly skirmish, forcing Puntland and their business partners out of the entire region. This episode serves as an important bullet point in Puntland's short political history. From this period, many other clans were inspired to challenge the administration adding on to the list of challenges for the incompetent administration. Look how many vehicles and people are working here. They benefited big time from it. The oil workers and their equiptment wouldn't be there if they didn't agree with it. Another huge mistake by Reer Maakhir. The writer of this article takes pride (as many others from his region) of attacking the workers, but other regions jumped at oppurtunity after the incident because they knew it would bring good. The article is being dishonest with it's interpretation.
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I've met Ilko'Jiir and he is definitely an honorable man. When I was in Garowe during the past elections, I saw all these candidates driving around with a ridiculous amount of bodyguards. Except Ilko'Jiir, who had an SUV with two guards. I don't know if the other candidates think it helps their image or status, but it was annoying. Ilko-Jiir spoke very well about bringing security and other help. Ilko Jiir who had arrived from the U.S a few months earlier came in second for the Puntland presidency of 2009. Losing to President Faroole who himself had lost the elections before in 2005. So what is Maakhir complaining about? Do they actually feel Puntland is a clan enclave? Let me clarify what I said, Puntland owes now tribe nothing, they owe the people. We all came together and formed a peaceful region. Everyone sacrificed and must be given credit for their contributions. When the writer says "Puntland had transformed from a utopian vision to a clan enclave driven by SSDF power ambitions", I have an issue with it, especially after Ilko'Jiir's run and losing to someone who had already lost. He beat out so many other people. I'm not diminishing what reer Maakhir have done, but everyone has grievances and thinks they are getting the shorter end of the stick. Aw Muuse Ismaciil, Makhiris are not positioning themselves to lead in my opinion. The article is focusing on their grievances with the former admin. Cade Muse who they refused to give sanctuary to in 2003 and help negotiate a peace treaty with, by not allowing him set up a base on their lands when he arrived. Instead he went o Ceel Afweyn on the NW Somalia side where the honorable Buurmadow mediated the peace deal. Maakhir could have stepped in and done it themselves and position themselves as a powerful force, yet instead they took sides. That was a big mistake. Also, other area's in Puntland welcomed the oil explorations and the jobs and money it would bring to their already deprived regions, but Maakhir was against it because Cade Muse was involved. It wasn't huge equipment coming to extract oil or minerals but merely exploring. Like I said Makhiris are doing a poor job positioning them selves for the presidency. This article is obsessed with the previous leader and mostly addresses him when it is well known they have rejected him from day one; way before he was president and an opposition rebel leader. They need to become the opposition to the current leadership and show what they can bring to the table to help the people. They need to show what the current admin is doing wrong and how they can fix it. That is exactly why Nuradin Dirie refused the post that Faroole offered him, because he knew it would hurt his chances of running next time. How can you run against an administration that you work for? What changes can you bring when you are responsible for the current situation. Right now Nuradin is positioning himself for his next run at the top job, and from what I am hearing so is Gaagaab. While Ilko-jiir is busy with his work and standing side by side with Faroole other candidates are getting a head start and preparing to peacefully oppose the admin. Opposition groups usually say, this is what is wrong and this is how I’ll fix it. Faroole did it with the former admin, with a few other questionable tactics. But Makhiris who instead of writing articles of the current admin, they are writing about the admin before that. They need to realize that admin is long gone and is in the history books, do you think Nuradin and others are concerned with Cade's admin and writing these kinds of articles? Maakhir needs to forget about them and get serious if they want to get the presidency. I'm not saying Ilko-Jiir won't win, no one thought Faroole would and I’m not sure what maakhir is planning. I just think he has a better shot if he becomes opposition. Everyone knows Faroole wants to be president of Somalia and if you look at Puntland history usually the person who opposes the admin wins the next elections. Like I said, start thinking about the current admin and how you can bring changes to make it better and put away your long standing grievances with Cade Muse.
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Aw Muuse Ismaciil The days of pointing fingers and blaming others is over in Puntland. How many tribes are their in in the state? No one is intitled to anything. Every tribe can not be given a position or special treatment, there is just not enough government positions to accomodate all of them. So you must choose people individually on their basis of their merits not because they come from certain area. This entire article never mentions what people of Maakhir can offer to Puntland. Instead the writer says: "If leaders are neither prone to compromise nor execute their functions with transperancy and accountability, regional tensions are bound to re-emerge. Moreover, in some cases the resulting tensions will turn into conflicts as in the case for Majiyahan. The threats need to stop, there is no need for them. The write needs to think of this famous quote "Don’t ask what your country can do for you. Ask instead what you can do for your country” – John F. Kennedy.
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Support for this new regional alliance grew immediately, mapping a state that stretches west to Ceerigaabo and south to Gaalkacyo. Why is it whenever reer maakhir don't get their way they start complaining about the whole state. It's one thing if they have issue with the former admin, but why say "utopian vision to a clan enclave. Then they say stretches to Ceerigaabo and south to Gaalkayo, well what happened to Ceerigabo. How'd they lose it, it is in the control of NW Somalia's admin and they will never allow them to be pres or vice pres. They haven't even allowed them to run for the position. Yet in Puntland they came in second place in voting for the presidency. Puntland has been very good to them and has received little in return. They need to look at 3 options, either to the NW Somalia, NE Somalia or making an independant state. They have to stop blaming all their problems on others and try and threaten to run away if they to get what they want. They did it last time with the maakhir project, thinking people would beg them to come back and when that didn't happen they came back and ran for presidency of Puntland. When I was in Puntland at the time, I thought, "wait a minute didn't these guys claim their own state." Although both of the previous administrations had failed to fully incorporate Makhiri regions into Puntland, the Makhiris at home and abroad are still waiting for the new President (Faroole) and his Interior Minister (Ilka Jiir) to deliver their promises. Puntland owe's them nothing. They came close to winning the Presidency so they need to stop with the empty threats. They need to focus on getting control of the land to their west that is in the NW Somalia admin's hands. Then they'll become very important. Blame whoever they want, but don't call the whole state a clan enclave, especially when you tried to develop one called Maakhir.
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It seems old, because it is an issue that happened a while ago. You think the government website of Garoweonline would be spending more time trying to apprehend the killers of his minister rather then bringing up this ICG report over and over again. The key to this article is this: Report Drafted By: Dr. Michael A. Weinstein, Professor of Political Science, Purdue University It was drafted by this professor, so you know Faroole's son's who own Garoweonline filled in the blanks. To ensure they gave a spin that made their father look good. For instance: When one looks at Puntland from Farole's position, one must first understand that Farole is aware that he inherited a nest of nearly intractable problems from the previous administration, including an entrenched criminal industry, a legacy of corruption and self-dealing, and a measure of clan resentment that the I.C.G. emphasizes. The writer (which is most likely Faroole's sons) is speaking for the president when he is wrote the above section I quoted. To say "farole is aware", implies he knows what is going on in the president mind. Faroole's sons are very clever when they use the media. They have a website they project as independent from the government. Which anyone would know is impossible if your father is the president. They also post articles that were "drafted" by a professor in America responding to the ICG. If any other Puntland leader had sons with a website that made them look good, people would ignore it. Although you can't compare the two, but think if Obama's sister or Bush's daughters had news wesbsites? What i'm getting at is that at the very least, remember whatever content Garoweonline is reporting will make their father Faroole look good and they have clever way of disguising it.
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Which basically means, we need more military weapons to fight. Smart move by the intelligence chief.
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In the end the Federal Government needs Puntland way more then Puntland needs the Federal Government. Especially when NW Somalia is claiming an independant admin and almost none of the south in Federal Governments hands, they don't want to push Puntland into a corner. If anything President Sharif, Sharif Adan and Ibbi, have completely disrespected Prime Minister Abdirashid; by basically saying the agreement he came to in gaalkayo isn't worth the paper it was written on. This is a blantant sign of how much they don't want Puntland in anyway to succeed. They know having the training and the base in Puntland will help the government fight piracy. President Sharif and co. Claim to be the government of Somalia, but want the naval force trained in another country. President Sharif surrounds himself around someone like Sharif Aden and is now seeming to lose his well known strong intergrity that got him to where he is. If they could, they would have had the training and base in the south but since they can't, they would rather leave Somalia. I'm surprised they showed their true colours so soon.
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It was 3 different area's of Hargeysa, right. The presidents residence, UNDP, and ethiopian office right? So mogadishu only had one such bombing? I find it strange that Bosaso has two attack signs.
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So there wasn't three attacks in Hargeysa? You know what this map also show's one attack in Mogadishu but 2 in Bosasso. Ridiculous and unprofessional!
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The link isn't working, but Can you explain to me why it shows Hargeysa as having only one bombing from the islamic insurgency attak, when their was 3, but got it correct in Bosasso?
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Why does the map show 2 bombings in Bosasso, yet only one in Hargeysa? Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't their 3 bombings in Hargeysa? Another form of disinformation that seems to never cease. You can tell who this map is trying to make look good, they know if they show 3 bombings in hargeysa it might give it a bad imagine, so they lie and only show one. Why do you post these lies?
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Mogadishu: Nur Cade's failure 11 out of 15 ministers resign
Thankful replied to General Duke's topic in Politics
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I agree, Puntland needs to support the Prime Minister. If he has a whole state behind him, he will be powerful. I am still shocked that those guys would want the navy to be trained in another country. It's unbelievable. Have you ever heard that before? What's wrong with Puntland, it has so much land available. Because of it's safety the police academy was built there, why not a naval academy. There is no excuse.
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And this man wants the training to take place on Djibouti soil so he can send a few crumbs to President Sharif, Sharif aden and co. It just doesn't make sense why they would be against having the training on Somali soil. It's their greed and only that. I know they will come back and say that the Prime Minister is not autorized to sign any such deal on his own. Even though it was the logical thing to do. It makes me think more and more, is Puntland really compatible with the Government in the south. It seems they do everything to undermine it.
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No actually people protesting at parliament and the troops opening fire with live bullets don't happen in the most develop countries, democracies may fight over election results. But not whether they will have them or not, democracies do not postpone elections indefinitely either. This is just revealing the facade that NW Somalia enclave really is.
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Originally posted by -MARX-: My machete is been grinding for people like you. I will cut your head open then and spit on your brain. I don’t talk politics with someone who has no knowledge of what politics is. People like you deep down are simmering with hate for the achievements of Somaliland. P.S - each life is equal. No need to compare how many of your reer hebal has been killed. Bro you are taking this way to serious and I suggest you just take a break. You have spent so much time lying about who you are, so that you would look like someone who supported NW Somalia that wasn't from the dominant family. It seems more and more people on here that hail from there are continuously lying. I commend you for coming forward with the truth and won't bring it up again. However, I suggest threating people on here whether you are serious or not is going a bit too far. You need to take some time off and chill.
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I know this is obvious to all. All this navy base talk comes down to one thing and one thing only, Money! Whoever gets to have the navy base put in their area wants control the enormous amount of money that will be coming through there. The international community will be shelling out tons of resources to that area. Djibouti wants it really bad so they can get some of it and so does Puntland. Those in Mogadishu know that they control very little and can't hold a navy base anywhere in south so they have made an agreement to put it in Djibouti with the government there and split some of that money. However it is only logical that the training base be situated in Puntland Somalia and not another nation, especially when the majority of the piracy problem involves Puntland. I believe Puntland President Faroole and Prime Minister of the Federal Government Omar Abdirashid are correct in wanting the base to be put in Puntland. President Sharif and Sharif Xasan will definitely fight but most likely back down. Depends how much money is involved.
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How did Riyaale take it over? The last time he ever went he was almost killed and ran away never to return. They sing songs about how he didn't put up a fight. He has never once returned to the city once.
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Hiiraan Qof ku dhintay Rasaas ay fureen Ciidamada Booliska Soomaliland oo kala eryayay dad ku soo xoomay Xarunta Golaha Wakiillada Sabti, September 12, 2009(HOL): Hal Qof ayaa dhintay, tiro kalena, dhaawacyo kala duwan ayaa soo gaaray kaddib markii dad ku soo xoomay xarunta Golaha Wakiillada ay rasaas ku fureen ciidamada Booliska Somaliland. Rasaasta ayay ciidamada fureen kaddib markii Dadweyne careysan ay ku soo xoomeen Xarunta Golaha Wakiillada oo ay Ciidamada Booliska diideen in ay saaka galaan Xubnaha Golaha Wakiillada. Xaaladad ayaa haatan kacsan waxayna Ciidamada Booliska ee ku sugan nawaaxiga Xarunta Golaha Wakiillada ay ridayaan rasaas laga maqlayo meelo kala duwan oo magaalada ah. Wixii ku soo kordha Xiisadda ka taagan Magaalada Hargeysa kala soco halkan kaddii Alle idmo. Barqad M. Kaariye, Hiiraan Online barqad@hiiraan.com Hargeysa, Somaliland
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Horseednet Horseed Media Hargeisa War deg deg ah oo hadda naga soo gaaraya Caasimada Somaliland ee Hargeysa ayaa sheegay in halkaas uu ka dhacay iska horimaad. Booliska ayaa isku dayey in ay kala diraan boqolaal qof oo isugu soo baxay Baarlamaanka hortiisa kuwaan oo bilaabey rabshado, waxaana boolisku u isticmaaleen rasaasta ka dhacda qoryaha fudud, inta la ogyahay waxaa ku dhintey rasaasta hal qof waxaana ku dhaawacmey sadex qof kuwaan oo ka mid ahaa dadkii halkaas mudaaharaadka ka dhigaayey. Rabshadaha ayaa ku fidey qaybo ka mid ah magaalada, waxaana marba marka ka danbeysa soo badanaaya dhalinyarada careysan ee taageersan xisbiyada mucaaradka, waxayna xireen jdiadka waaweyn ee magaalada oo dhagaxaan ay ku gooyeena, sidoo kale waxa ay gubayaan Taayiro, waxaana hadda laga maqlayaa meelo ka mid Hargeysa rasaas goos goos ah taas oo ay ridayaan ciidanka Amaanku. Waxaa gebi ahaanba istaagey Ganacsiga magaalada iyada oo badhtmaha Magaalada rabshaduhu gaareen. Baarlamaanka Somaliland ayaa xirnaa tan iyo maalintii Talaadadii la soo dhaafey kadib markii buuq iyo rabshado ay ka dhaceen fadhi la doonaayey in xilka looga xayuubiyo Rayaale iyo ku xigeenkiisa Axmed Yusuf Yaasiin, waxaana gebi ahaanba la wareegay xarunta Baarlamaanka Booliska Hargeysa, waxayna ka qadeen furyaashii xafiiska shirgudoonka. Gudoomiyaha Baarlamaanka Somaliland, Cabdiraxmaan Maxamed Cabdullaahi (Ciroweyne) ayaa sheegay maalintii khamiista in ay ku laabanayaan Baarlamaanka isla markaasna ugu baaqey shacabka Hargeysa in ay isu soo baxaan oo tageeraan. Waxaa soo dhexgalay xaaladda Murugsan ee halkaas ka taagan Golaha Guurtiga oo uu Hogaaminaaya Suleymaan Maxamuud Adan, waxa uu sheegay in ay arinta kala hadleen shir gudoonka iyo Madaxweynaha waxa ayna isku waafaqeen in marka hore la furo Baarlamaanka fadhiguna socdo, maalinta sabtida ah isla markaasna laga qaado Booliska dul degay, sidoo kale dadka shacabka ah ee caadeystey in ay isa soo hordhoobaan baarlamaanka ay halkaas isaga tagaan taas oo uu sheegay in labada dhinacba ay aqbaleen. Hadaba waxaa maanta dib loo furey Hoolka Baarlamaanka waxaana Boolisku ogolaadey in ay galaan shirgudoonka oo keliya, waxaana banaanka dhoobnaa xildhaabanadii iyo shacab faro badan oo ay wateen tan ayaana keentay isku dhaca maanta dhacay. Rabshadaha maanta ka dhacay Baarlamaanka hortiisa ayaa ku soo beegmaya xili uu halkaas booqanayo ergayga gaarka ah ee Qaramada Midoobey u magacawdey Somaliya Axmed Ould Abdallah. Shacabka ku dhaqan Hargeysa ayaa wadanaha farta uga haya in rabshaduhu ay noqdaan kuwo fida halkaasna ay ku soo afjaranto nabadii ay mudada dheer ku naaloonayeen.
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Southern neighbour puts Somaliland on Horn of a dilemma
Thankful replied to Jacaylbaro's topic in Politics
At the end of September, Somaliland will hold its third presidential election. Unlike many developing countries, it will welcome foreign observers to oversee the elections, though, unfortunately, most Western countries and agencies will stay away, lest their presence be seen as legitimising Somaliland's de facto government. Show's how much this guy is following any of the recent developments. Wonder what he thinks now that the elections have been cancelled 3 times and the final time indefinitely. -
That's why it's NW Somalia, he is visting all corners of the state.
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Riyaale hasn't even gone to LA once, so what does that tell you? I think he still has nightmares of the the last time he went.
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Sh. Sharif ... The First President to the White House for 40 years ???
Thankful replied to Jacaylbaro's topic in Politics
Originally posted by Jacaylbaro: quote: waxaana uu noqonayaa madaxweynihii ugu horeeyay ee mudo 40-sano taga aqalka cad ee dalka Maraykanka. There is a specific reason why he is hiding the source and link. It's constant lies and they need to stop!