well it is not like there is a mens section and even if there was, just as men post and read everything in the women section, women would have read it there too. not that it is the most interested topic on the earth and it is not like those of you old enough to post here have much choice. you have already been blessed with one or the other, and even in cyber world, it is clear who got blessed with what! cheers.

what :eek: :eek: now i am confused. my theory is out of the window and just when i thought it all made sense. well aint i glade he is not here to see what wrote surely he would be offended. sorry ngonge and it won't allow me to edit it out cheers

yes i am liberated

Interesting in deed and where is Ngonge; has not acknowledge this dedication. i'm to assue she loves you too and you found her on SOL. what a crazy world

i swear sometimes people are soo funny, do men fall in love why are there so many threads about love :rolleyes:

when da hell did i say that and where is your copy rights. i see you had some confessions to get off ur heart. feel better now "heartbreaker"

^^^i'm the only one that mentioned xishood, but that quote is not me, anyway i did not mean offend you, i wz just worked, still am

They probably though; this lost one that has abandoned her xishood and culture and adopted the disgusting western ways (shakes head, haa, maarktah) youngsters these days, does she not come from a respectable family how can she parade her body like that, see everyone is looking at her. lool

god i nearly cried reading that. thats just plain embrassing, nothing to do with self hate. if you saw a women wearing a bakini in a mosque while everyone else was covered you would feel the same way. i guess it was more of the place rather than action. i mean why would you do that? did u speak to them by any chance? i guess not

hey^^ no your engrisi is too complex dear, care to explain it in lay xalimo terms i don't see any laws against mix and matching p.s. u edit ur message dear, why did you think i would be offended? lool

^^^shiid, you mean i am going to wear diirac on road and gossip all day and marry a poor farah who chews qaad, and memorise poems and become fat and out of shape, and eat bariis and pasto everyday, and think qabil is the most important thing in world. someone shoot me now sounds like self hate i like my values dee, i made them up by stealing ideas from many many different cultures. and now that i have come to terms with my identity i refuse to change it even if i reach as old as 100 as i am quiet old as it is

Hey I know what you mean. I guess I’m not immune to it when you look at it in these contexts. But it depends on how far you go with this self hate. If it is things you can change about yourself then I guess to lessen that feeling you would change it (e.g. I’m too fat; loose some weigh ) What I notice most is this whole culture. Your western side is always in conflict with your cultural background and your religion. for example, older Somali people make a mocker of how I speak in Somali and roll around laughing when I speak, or tell you off for not knowing Somali poems/songs and they don't consider you as "somalian enough" and think you are westernize. however when you are mixing with western people, you never go the full way (not drinking, drugs, sex) whatever it maybe you lack some core characteristics that white westerns consider as distinguishing elements in their culture. So you end up being a stranger in both worlds. Some people just end up going backwards and forwards between the too cultures, while other (including me ) try to take the best of both worlds and create your own culture; I don’t' think this is self hate though rather a frustration that you can't do anything how you are meant to Anyway that’s my two cents

okay i guess, you don't percieve the word with the same meaning as i do. yeah sure whatever rocks your boat. cheers

Originally posted by LayZieGirl: quote:During the live televised debate, Islamic scholar Abdel-Moti dismissed the fatwa, saying: "Nothing is prohibited during marital sex, except of course sodomy." Does this mean no more oral sex for married couple, doggy style, 69 etc??? :eek: :eek: :eek: u miss understood; nothing is Forbidden except for sodomy

i second that, but it is pretty childish callin people names, simply because you happen to differ in views or approachs regarding certain issues. Even if you feel that they are in the wrong you have to be able to explain your self and justify your argument to show why you are right and they are not. Castor answering him with simliar things will just lower you to childish behaviour. if your can't get on, ignore each other cheers

^^what is the use of asking me "what i mean" when clearly you have reached a conculsion and decided i did "wrong" :rolleyes: just to humor u. this is what i was refering to!! "Practicing brigade" is people who think that the are superior to everyone and they have the GOD given right to monitor Muslim people like they are the FBI angels of Islam. They are quick to notice other people mistakes and short comes in general. they have communication problems, bad characters and manners, and no sense of humor, and are paranoid. They do not accept difference in opinion and approach and make Islam hard for themselves and those around them and in general they put people off Islam and portray it in bad light. They group people into groups and each thinks their group is the best. <<This is where it all starts and at the end it ends up being far from what Islam commanded, and the good practice of Islam. Most of these problems can be easily solved by education and the search for Knowledge, but many of them are too fast and hard headed. i hope you are satisfied with my answer, which has no relation to what you are or consider your self to be, for i don't know you from Adam. Nor is it an attack on anyone, but just an opining i hold and I don’t need to apologies for it. I do come across and acknowledge that the best people are those who follow Islam correctly. It is just that there are many who just give them a bad name. cheers and have a blessed day

i think some people mean "can i have, instead of can you lend me" :rolleyes: especially somalis. that happens to me all the time. bishaaro, the worst happened to me in the summer, one friend borrowed my line rental (phone) for one month and run up £389, then said she will pay it, I waited for one month, the 2months, the phone company got pissed, and cut off my line and sent me a cancellation fee of £240. guess who ended up paying for it. ME and i aint seen her since :mad: First and last female somali friend ever, i promised my self. as for DVDs and CDs, clothes and hair dry/straighten etc, ppl never give them back, and i can't ask for it. :mad:

This is a man who says: Sharon "I vow that if I was just an Israeli civilian and I met a Palestinian I would burn him and I would make him suffer before killing him.†“Everyone there (Israelis) should move, should run, should grab more hills, expand the territory. Everything that's grabbed will be in our hands. Everything we don't grab will be in their hands (Palestinians)†:mad: :mad: :mad: I am hoping that someone is going to publish photographs of Sharon in his present condition on the internet for our entertainment just as pictures of massacred and mutilated Palestinian, Chechnyan and Iraqi Muslims are posted on the internet so that Americans and Zionists can gloat in their crimes and their genocide ! :mad:

^^flawed idea, if you want someone to take care of u when u are old, why on earth would u want a male child, you would want a female (more emotional attached to mother and more able to care of you)

Originally posted by Jamelia: quote:Originally posted by ibtisam: JB quote: what you´re looking for is an "UKHTI". wow and still the practicing brigade has not strike yet, must be all celebrating EID The practising brigrade :rolleyes: ....What the.......Is there something wrong with actually PRACTISING ISLAM?...Or am I missing something here?..... When has being a practising muslim become a thing to be ridiculed by?...Amazing Eid muburak to all the MUSLIMS Amazing; :rolleyes: indeed, how paranoid. Funny or sad should i say that so many people can "defend Islam" online, where are these people in real life, how come they don't defend Islam then, surely if they did, attacking Islam would not be such an easy target. Maybe instead of defending Islam when there is no need (like now) Islam should be defended when there is an actually need, for example, where were these people when the daily telegraph called the prophet a paedophile, or the Quran a bloodthirsty book. When i contacted them they did not have "enough complaints about that article to issue a public apology and re-tract of that article" but on a general forum, there seems to be so many getting angry for no valid reason. :rolleyes: if you want to defend Islam today visit the SkyNews and protest to SkyNews to remove this blasphemous title from their website "Millions Worship Muhammed" that would be more reward and benefical to the Muslims http://www.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,31200-hajj_p659,00.html so plz easy off, no one wz attacking the "Practising Muslims", though we might differ on exactly what that includes. EID mubark to you too, have an enjoyable day

^^^i like him, he actually makes sense. that kind of dacwa i can handle. cheers

JB what you´re looking for is an "UKHTI". wow and still the practicing brigade has not strike yet, must be all celebrating EID

i think u just fell for his tactics, do you really believe that? It is just the way to easy off international pressure. HE does not care and he certainly don't want them to have their own state. He wants them under his foot, but he is too smart to come right out and say that. HE is just trying to act like the good guy for a while, provoke them, get resistance and then say see, I told you, they don’t deserve anything because they don’t appreciate. cheers

:rolleyes: The paranoid brigade on both sides

so we should shower with our under wear or something. cajjib, i never heard it before, i guess if you live long enough, you will hear everything. and who determins if you have a valid reason. For me going to sleep naked in the summer due to extrem weather is a valid reason, but for you maybe not. but i guess if you don't tell anyone its between you and your lord. anyway what ever turns ur pages.