thanks Gheele. as for Elpunto ,Gheelle responded to my earlier post I had with someone else & we been having cool,you on the otha hand came to this conversation & if you didn't like could'v stayed out.no need to be childish since we neva had any conversation .

put politics aside(whetha right or wrong),that's not the issue here.What the issue is the 1/3...regardless how many clans live there. If I say benadir is 1/2,that doesn't translate into one clan,cos so many differnt people live there.think you get the gist.

Gheelle.T;814778 wrote: Seriously! Laascaanood iyo Buhodle nin ku dagaalamaya oo kuwa kale ku leh "dhul bay sheegtaan" that's the irony! no it's part of SL but doesn't belong my reer..same way PL doesn't all belong to 1 clan.Saying puntland is 1/3 is rediculous...just shows how you guys have fighting every thread..your hands are literally full.

waar loo taagheli maayo...you fighting losing battle...put your photo on your house so it won't be taken:D

that only puntlanders support vehemently with no compromise & others reject ,itself tells the whole story.

Shinbir Majabe;814745 wrote: :D Dad ayaa Juquraafi (Geography) u baahan in ay bartaan.. they doing purposely ,that's why the new constitution in question:D

^^^ I know it's indian but might be one of their dialects in certain region..try to find out.

paranoia at it's worst...why should he kill, I'm sure he find a way to fire him if he wanted:o

The word "garee" is indian but when somalis use it only comes with english words: drive garee run garee cook garee draw garee mix garee use garee the word "wale" is also indian and look how it used: qaadwale..... qaadle(in somali) adhiwale ..... adhiile(in somali) gaadhiwale..... gaadhiile(in somali) dukaanwale..... dukaanle(in somali) also Badhasaab(indian) laangadhe(indian) sooo add some

he is the newly nominated head of SL petroleum agency.That's why he ducking...better be friend with him now.

shabab not only cowards but savages & hoodlums.

Peacedoon;814540 wrote: Are they also anti-peace:D :D

keep crying baby & keep hijacking threads. all is left with you is try get into people's under skin.Clutch your straws tight.

^ polluting everywhere with your lil khatumite rubbish.The article talks both somalia & somaliland. Don't they both share the word "somali".

puntland the attention seeker:D

bilan;814499 wrote: what do you mean using her, no one is uising her, she is just an evil like all of them. you right ,they all evil..same boat.

It roll my stomach...sure curse be upon shabab & the likes.What a bunch of savages!

aren't you as a somali typifing yourself when you say half cast.I would call her somalid:D

somalis have passports from around the world so is natural to reciprocate,it be healthy & productive,too.

AUN...now they start using women in the most horrendous way.Bloody thirsty bstrds.

Sports, art, streetlights: A new life in Mogadishu ABDI GULED, Associated Press Updated 07:46 p.m., Tuesday, April 3, 2012 1 of 17 VIEW: Larger | Hide In this photo taken Monday, March 19, 2012, Somali singers perform at the Somali National Theater in Mogadishu, Somalia. The seaside capital of Mogadishu is full of life for the first time in 20 years after African Union and Somali troops pushed Islamist militants out of the city last year. Photo: Farah Abdi Warsameh / AP News MOGADISHU, Somalia (AP) — The crowd — both men and women — cheered wildly as two Mogadishu basketball teams entered an old stadium that once bore the bloodstains of war. During the recent reign of Islamist militants, playing basketball in Somalia's seaside capital was punishable by torture or death. Today, Somalia's blue flag has reclaimed its place over the battered Lujino Stadium, replacing the black banner of al-Shabab, the militant Islamist group that until a few months ago held sway over much of Mogadishu. This seaside capital is full of life for the first time in 20 years. Since African Union and Somali troops pushed Islamist militants out of the city last year, schools, shops and markets have reopened. The city government has repaired potholed streets and installed streetlights. Turkish Airlines last month began weekly flights, advertised on billboards, marking the first time in decades that a reputable international carrier has regular flights to Mogadishu. Western-style restaurants are opening, including near Mogadishu's beach front, where men and women swim together without fear of punishment from militants. People dance at weddings. It's too early to say that the chaos, violence and hunger that have often gripped Mogadishu since 1991, when dictator Siad Barre was overthrown by warlords who then turned on each other, are gone for good. But a tectonic shift has occurred in the life of this city since al-Shabab's withdrawal last August. The group at one point had controlled all but a few blocks of the capital. "I see so much difference as a longtime resident in Mogadishu," Abdiaziz Nur, a 31-year-old Mogadishu resident, said at a cafe where he was smoking a hookah. "I had never dreamed that I would either walk through Mogadishu's streets or drive my car at night, but now we feel glorified and proud." The war is still sometimes felt in the capital, with a mortar round or car bomb exploding every few days. Unexploded munitions are also a danger — an old bomb embedded in ground being used as a soccer field exploded last month as a team jumped up and down in celebration of a goal, killing two players and wounding three. But the violence is nowhere near the scale previously seen, and al-Shabab's strict social rules are no longer enforced in a capital whose population is believed to be between 1.5 million and 3 million. No one knows how many people live in Mogadishu, because until now it has been too dangerous to conduct a census. Changes are coming with stunning speed. A Somali-American entrepreneur is investing millions of dollars to open the first international bank here in more than two decades. The First Somali Bank, protected by 10 guards, plans to offer mortgage loans and international banking services. "The city is returning to normal now. Thanks to Allah we can do business here again," said Liban Abdi Igal, the bank's chairman, who was recently living in Maryland. "I have returned here with optimism after seeing progress and revival." After getting a facelift, the national theater reopened for the first time in 20 years. The opening concert on March 19 featured musicians playing guitars and drums. The performance was broadcast live on TV. Beauty salons and gyms are again flourishing in Mogadishu. Women have started driving cars, and Somalis play music on radios without fear. Despite the advances, poverty is still prevalent in much of the city. Thousands of refugees displaced by famine last year sleep on dusty lots. Unemployment is widespread. Women with children on their laps sit on street corners, hoping for a handout. Nowhere is Mogadishu's transformation more clearly observed than on its many sports fields. Just a year ago, al-Shabab used Mogadishu's stadium as a launching pad for attacks against the nearby presidential palace. Mortars fired by pro-government forces sometimes landed inside the stadium. Blood stained the walls and the stone bleacher seats, even the goal posts. After al-Shabab left, residents washed the blood away. The coach of Somalia's national basketball team, Daud Diriye, never thought he'd see the day when sports came back to the city. His team is even traveling to Uganda to play in a tournament. "Having endured the strict rule of the Islamists for so much time, I thought my training days were over," the 53-year-old potbellied coach said. On a recent day, Shukri Saeed was next to a male basketball fan at a game and excitedly spoke of the city's changes. "Sports are witnessing a revival nowadays, and everyone is in charge of his own destiny," she said. Hundreds of men and women were joking, chewing gum and enjoying simple pleasures together at the game. Al-Shabab had banned males and females from sitting together in public as a violation of Sharia law. Violators faced public whipping or imprisonment. Across the war-scarred capital, dozens of soccer fields are filled with players. The revival of sports has not only brought ordinary Somalis outside, it has also pulled young militants away from the hold of insurgent groups. "I have three al-Shabab defectors who want a new, entertaining life," Daud said, glancing at two men struggling to catch a bouncing ball. Mogadishu residents are even going out at night to watch sports competitions — a normal activity most anywhere else in the world but a forgotten pleasure here. Mohamed Hashi, a 64-year-old former basketball player, watched a crowd arriving at the stadium with tears in his eyes. "The grim days are over," he said.

xiimaaya;814023 wrote: ERIGAVO will be the new war front.. there is three clans that claim that city soon they will clash ... its already happening this city was tradionaly under maakhir state folks control of late they lost that grip.. they only control the eastern side of the town.. you forget Burao,you control south side:D

^^^^^ troll

How do you solve a problem like Somalia? FEBRUARY 23rd has been the biggest day in Somalia’s recent history. There is an expectation that today’s London conference on Somalia, organised by the British government and backed by almost all interested parties, will give the benighted country a chance to move forward. That does not mean that it will necessarily pull together. Asour story in this week’s paper makes clear, the plan is to give up on a centralised state, for now, and to concentrate instead strengthening local rule. But in order for Somalia to have any chance of making a cantonal arrangement of six or seven regions work, it must first get some important things right. Donors can play their part by coughing up cash and trying to make sure it is spent correctly, but Somalis have to do much better than they have done so far (though the country has not been without heroes; many courageous and tolerant Somalis have been killed by jihadists and warlords, often dying without any recognition from the outside world). For Baobab, the main challenges can be broken down into security, food and business. Security: The London conference has to come up with ways to hammer Shabab bomber and sniper units, while creating opportunities to draw moderate Islamists into local administrations. The announcement, on February 10th, that the Shabab have officially joined al-Qaeda is unlikely to result in much of an operational surge. Indeed, it may present an opportunity to get on side those fighters who are more interested in Somalia than in waging global jihad. The Shabab are on the back foot. It is having to defend its territory from Kenyan forces in the south, Ethiopia and its proxies in the west, and from African Union troops in Mogadishu. The Kenyans have succeeded in repelling the Shabab from their border (although Shabab fighters still slip through to kidnap or kill Kenyans). The group has so far deterred an assault on their stronghold of Kismayo by threatening a bombing campaign in Kenya, which would wreck tourism and scare off foreign investment there. Those conferring today need to address two immediate security challenges. The first is to limit the influence of Eritrea, which has often acted against the interests of ordinary Somalis by assisting the jihadists. The second is to help local Somalis and Kenyan forces to secure the buffer state of “Jubaland” along the Kenyan border, about 100km inland. Investment in education, health and jobs in Jubaland would encourage Somali refugees in the Dadaab refugee camp, just inside Kenya, to return home. It would also make northern Kenya safer and enable work to start planned oil drilling, a new super-port at Lamu, and a new city for 1m people. Food: The second area the conference has to get right is food production. Somalia is a hungry country, reliant on food aid and commercial imports of wheat, pasta and oil. Its old Italian banana and tomato plantations are in ruins. The situation is further complicated by the fact that the Shabab still control most of the country’s breadbasket. The United Nations says 80,000 Somalis may have perished in last year’s famine. Conditions have improved considerably, but 2.3m people are still in need of assistance. The UN humanitarian chief for Somalia, Mark Bowden, says the priority is getting displaced people to return home from tented camps around Somalia, as well as from Dadaab: the World Food Programme claims to feed 400,000 people in and around Mogadishu alone. The Shabab have tentatively supported the idea of returns; they emphasise self-reliance. However, many displaced people were driven from their farms by the Shabab and fear runs deep. Business: The third and most important area to address is business. Here there is plenty of reason to hope, not least because of the acumen of its traders, bankers and entrepreneurs. Donors need to build on this money-making instinct by supplying capital for loans to medium-sized Somali companies. “I want to see more carrots and less sticks,” says a Somali businessman. Investments would need to be varied, including industrial equipment for fishing companies and frankincense exporters, and an overhaul of the country’s destructive charcoal business to make it more sustainable. Somalis are also surprisingly nerdy. The country is one of the most advanced in Africa in terms of mobile phone and internet usage. That can be further encouraged by subsidising the cost of data uploads on mobile phones as well as paying for fibre-optic cables to be laid down. The foremost investments, though, will have to be in livestock. Trade in cattle, camels, sheep and goats account for about half of Somalia’s exports. The country exported record numbers of animals last year, despite the famine. According to the United Nations Food and Agricultural Organisation, $250m worth went to Saudi Arabia during the haj. The Saudis say they want to double that figure by 2013. A $50m investment to establish a national system of watering and veterinary points for animals being marched through the desert looks like a bargain, if it helps win over pastoralists. Many Somali businesses can prosper without a helping hand. Take Somali money-transfer firms. The biggest of these is Dahabshiil. The Anglo-Somali outfit says its 5000 employees move most of the $1.6 billion in remittances to Somalia each year. The company’s boss, Abdirashi Duale, reckons the future of his company—and of Somalia itself—lies in the growing trade between African countries. He is expanding across Africa and hoping for a bigger share of the continent’s $40 billion in remittances. Similarly, connections abroad give Somali import and export companies an edge in selling electronics and household goods across Africa. That will probably continue even as they move to “regularise” their companies. The cantonal arrangement does, however, look shaky in another way: taxes. How will they be paid? To whom? Direct taxes look to be a non-starter. Indirect taxes will be hard to administer. What happens if oil drilling goes ahead in Puntland? What kind of revenues should it send to Mogadishu? Does the oil, in fact, belong to Somalia at all, or only to the Puntlanders? Everyone agrees that the services provided by the new republic should be minimal, but how minimal? That raises a host of other questions. Should the revived republic have a navy? Who will run the central bank? Who will decide how many Somali shillings to print? Those in Mogadishu close to the transitional federal government argue for the trappings of state—but the argument seems to have moved decisively beyond that. Source: http://www.economist.com Leave a Reply Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked * Name * Email * Latest Posts Latest Popular Comments Rag aan raaxaysan! The Saga of Somali Piracy Stabilizing Somalia – the development moment Somalia and the London Conference – the Wrong Route to Peace Somalia can be reborn as a country of progress and prosperity What can the West do to help Somalia? How do you solve a problem like Somalia? Somalia: Far from a failed state? Somalia: Two Weeks to Remember. Two Weeks to go. Will the London conference change Somalia’s future? 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most of the arabic words in somali is last 60yrs.First it was brought by somalis from Aden(yemen) who were 100,000s.Next was the 70s when couple 100,000s went to work in the Gulf.If you look back poems of prior 1950s,you hardly find any arabic in thm,maybe one or two.Look at Qamaan Bulxan.That be a good start. Look at how even names changed after 1960(even though they all arab names). Before 1960(set of old arabic names) asha amina ............................ kadija ............................ hawa ............................ fadumo .................................... ali,yusuf,mohamed etc after 1960(new arab names) sabah nasra leila ismahan jamal fuad mubarak etc.