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  1. The more important question is, why are you so sensitive about the mention of your eedo, Aamina Boqor? She has done so much good work for beesha, why did your tone changed as soon as she was brought up? Dont be ashamed of your history, or it will always be used against you.
  2. Dee been baash sheegtey. Waa lagaa xishooniyaa mooyaan ee meesha waxaad lasoo fadhiisato waa lawada ogyahay. I have provided concrete citations for every statement I have made. You did not present any evidence supporting your propaganda. You then tried to claim my sources are have been tampered with, and I provided links to the King Saud University Collection who holds the manuscript of Futuh Al Habash to confirm it has not been touched. If you were brought up on lies, about time you realised the truth and stopped claiming history that is not yours. Have some decency and be content with your own history. Unless you have better sources than "someone told me when I was a child", you have no case here. Lastly, your community was not even mentioned once in the original Futuh Al Habash text, this is well documented: Just you live in close proximity to Zeila today does not mean you always lived there. There is no documented historical evidence of your participation in Adal wars.
  3. You have been bringing up a lot more dead people, only fair for your eedo and her, erm, husband, to be part of this discussion. She has done great service to beesha, you should be proud of her
  4. Your tone changed as soon as I mentioned eedo Aamina Boqor and your adeero Douglas Collin. Hit a nerve miyaa?
  5. Odey Galbeedi, horta dhareerka iska masax. You are lying, and you know it. This time there are no "secret sources" to whisper in your ears, at least your mental faculties have not deteriorated to the point where you claim that a well placed source within the Adal warring factions informed you of the identity of Ahmed Gurey. You have nothing beside your poorly-written lies and half-truths. Absolutely no shame to be passing lies at your age without a single source to back them up, horta miyaanaad xishooneyn? You tried to claim that the sources listed above are "copy-pasted" and "falsified". Been baad sheegtey mar kale. The Arabic manuscript source is straight from the records of King Saud University Collections. The manuscript preserved in King Saud University Collections: And before you make another ridiculous claim, here is the exact page quoted above. You can click on the link which will take you directly to King Saud University's Collection page and right to the manuscript page quoted above which you can view and verify not to be tampered with by me. The other sources are widely available scholarly books, and I can also provide page numbers that you can verify personally. This is how you provide sources. Claiming anything that does not align with your clan-based propaganda to be lies is easy, but you can not wish away real history documented in English, French, and even Arabic (I have provided sources in all these languages). Substantiating your claims is something you've never done on these forums, you lie and then giggle and evade providing any concrete academic sources. Dont let me catch you making up lies again.
  6. You need not worry about matters such as Ahmed Gurey, for you are not part of this discussion. Do tell us when they build a statue for Amina Boqor and your seedi, mudane Douglas Collin.
  7. Old man, is this another thing your "secret sources" whispered in your ears? Never before have I seen anyone cram so much ignorance in his comments so effortlessly, you do have a talent. Back to reality, historically speaking there were two leaders named Ahmed that over the course of hundreds of years got amalgamated into a single heroic figure in Somali psyche; those were Imam Ahmed, a non-Somali walashma and Emir of muslims, and Ahmed Gurey, the leader of one of the most important factions during the Adal wars. With regards to Ahmed Gurey and his identity, the books are very clear about it, he belonged to the Duriya community. This is widely known amongst Somalis, which is why I find it bizarre for you to desperately stake your claim of him. And unlike your laughable "someone whispered into my ears" fantasies, I will provide the actual sources for what I state: And if you are not satisfied, here is the original Futuh Al Habash text, clearly stating Ahmed Gurey's "Duriyadnimo": The important role played by Duriyada community under leadership of their clansman Ahmed Gurey is widely available in academic research: You have no case old man. Trying to claim other people is beneath you as a Somali, be content with who your community produced, you can not claim other people's history, no matter how hard you try.
  8. The annual U.N. General Assembly is an orgy of symbolism. Who meets whom on the sidelines? Who tried but failed to secure a meeting with the U.S. president? Who walks out of whose speech? Whom do security officers intercept when they try to exceed the permissions of their visa? But there’s a second chapter to the diplomatic saga: Who continues on to Washington? What they do there matters. Some go to the White House, others to Congress, and still others hold meetings with their respective diasporas. President Mohamed Abdullahi Mohamed, or Farmajo as he is known to his Somali constituents, visited Washington, D.C., to formally open the Somali embassy. Farmajo was once the State Department’s great hope for Somalia. Long a refugee in the United States, he acquired American citizenship and even worked in various local government posts in Buffalo, New York, before returning to Somalia to become president. The State Department sent Donald Yamamoto, one of its highest ranking Africanists, to head the U.S. mission in Mogadishu. Yamamoto, in turn, promised Somalia almost a billion dollars in aid, although that number has shrunk considerably because of Farmajo’s ineffectiveness against (if not participation in) endemic corruption and a host of unanswered questions about his governance and priorities. U.S. priorities in the Horn of Africa are promoting peace and stability, countering terrorism, and preventing Chinese inroads. On the latter two counts, Farmajo has already become a liability. He has sold Somali waters to Chinese interests, for example, undercutting Somali fishing and aiding a revival of piracy. In recent months, he has appeared to endorse terrorism as a policy tool against neighboring states. His visit to Washington should now end any question about whether the Farmajo regime deserves U.S. support. Less than six months ago, the revelation that an Uber and Lyft driver in the Washington, D.C., area was a confirmed war criminal made international headlines. At the time, numerous Somalis testified that the driver, Yusuf Abdi Ali (better known as Colonel Tukeh), had directed torture and gruesome executions of prisoners during the 1980s. In one case, he had tied prisoners to a tree, doused them with oil, and lit them on fire. In another case, he tied a prisoner to a military vehicle and dragged him to his death. The cases were well documented, and so when Abdi Ali was found living in Canada, the Canadian government deported him. He later entered the U.S. and found work as an airport screener until he was recognized. Ultimately, after a long legal battle, the Federal Court in Alexandria, Virginia, found Abdi Ali guilty and fined him $500,000 in the case of Farhan Tani Warfaa, a Somali whom Abdi Ali had tortured and shot five times while Warfaa was a teenager. Human rights activists and Somalia watchers were shocked, therefore, not only to see Abdi Ali attending the opening of the new Somali embassy in Washington, but also to pose for pictures with Farmajo. Politicians might get a pass when asked to pose by well-wishers whom they do not know. But in this case, Abdi Ali appeared to be working for Farmajo, setting the security perimeter. No diplomatic smoke and mirrors can obfuscate Farmajo’s behavior. He is seeking to appeal to the worst elements of his clan rather than promoting reconciliation. In Somaliland especially, where the bulk of former dictator Siad Barre’s genocide against the Isaaq clan occurred, the wounds are still fresh and mass graves still uncovered. Yamamoto’s strategy has effectively been one of bribery: Flood Mogadishu with aid and allow Farmajo to use it to grease patronage to unite Somalia. The strategy has not worked, however, and instead has worsened corruption, undercut development by distorting salaries, and undermines stability in Somaliland and the southern Jubbaland state, as well as other portions of Somalia that have also seen modest stabilization and success. Even before Farmajo’s Washington trip, there were ample grounds for the State Department or Congress to review Somalia policy. For a leader such as Farmajo to pose with a war criminal should be grounds for automatic cessation of support. Somalia cannot recover with Farmajo in power. Both Somalis and American taxpayers deserve better.
  9. See, you are clearly uncomfortable with the history your SSDF ancestors left you, you can not even discuss it. Listen carefully, people will taunt you, some will bring up your ayeeyo Amina Boqor, and your clan's history of providing certain services to colonial officers in exchange for political favour, others will bring up the fact that you were the only rebel group ('rebel' used loosely here) to actually bend the knee and surrender to Afweyne, heck, some will bring up your other women whose pictures with modern day Douglas Collins' litter the internet in all sorts of compromised positions. It will hurt you, but never run away from it. Its shameful, humiliating.. disgusting. But its your history. Embrace it and it will never be used against you. Now say it loud, "SSDF did surrender but they are my rebels dammit". Say how proud you are for ayeeyo Amina Boqor's service to beesha!
  10. Whether you, a *****co great grandson of Amina Boqor chooses to believe it or not is of little importance. Whats important is that the legacy of your ayeeyo, Amina Boqor, and her escapades with mudane Douglas Collin, will live for ever. I am content with the legacy the SNM left me. But it is clear you are not all too happy with the one SSDF left you The victors of the Somali civil war are the ones who toppled Afweyne's regime and forced him to flee and die a destitute refugee. It was in these trying times that men were separated from boys, and women. When you were on all fours begging for Afweyne's mercy, without dignity pleading to the same man who destroyed your wells, honourable Somalis were actually fighting. No other rebel group stooped so low as to actually surrender. I think its probably the first time in modern African history
  11. Child of Amina Boqor, its no delusion, all documented history that ensures your shameful selling of your women to colonial forces in exchange for political favour is passed to future generations. We even have visual aids of your ancestor Amina with her bedfellow, awowgaa mudane Douglas Collin The only group to have left a shameful history are the ones who surrendered to their tormentor, went on all fours, and begged for mercy. There is a reason no one mentions the womanly SSDF anymore, its irrelevant in the context of Somali civil war. When the men of SNM/USC/SPM were in the bush fighting against Afweyne armies, your Puntlanders were behind closed doors sharing gossip with womenfolk. It hurts, I know, but this is your history.
  12. Child of Amina Boqor, you were made to surrender to Afweyne and beg for your life. The same man who killed your own and made you eat dirt to quench your thirst in Mudug. No human with an ounce of dignity would go back to the same man and surrender begging for his life. But you did. The big boys of SNM/USC/SPM are celebrated today because they actually fought, when the children of Amina Boqor locked their doors and hoped for the best.
  13. Out of the entire Somali nation Puntlanders are the last to talk about such things as "shameful legacy", for you are the offspring of Amina Boqor Cismaan and mudane Douglas Collin This is history we are talking about. It is all documented. The only 'rebel' group to surrender and beg for mercy were the pathetic SSDF. Thats why you dont see anyone bring up their contributions when discussing toppling of Afweyne, instead all discussions usually revolve around SNM/USC/SPM boys, you know, the ones who actually fought for their cause.
  14. The only confirmed craven eunuchs were the SSDF who were the only group to ever surrender to Afweyne and beg for mercy
  15. Not gonna lie, I feel a little sorry for odey Galbeedi, si daacad ah ayuu ucalaacaley