So as you Judge,so to will be judged' I don't use a Urinal but they are in Every Public Washroom. Also, there are no Barriers between the general publich washroom user or the Urinal Attendee i.e. Person who is peeing and the one washing their hands. So Farax Brown, saxib an APOLOGY is DUE. Why folks always digress from the Topic? Follow the line people....

Salamz, Do any of you nomads get co-workers, classmates etc. trying to talk to you, trying to start a conversation while they are urinating? Do you engage them in a discussion? Its a really strange situation. Personally, I try not to say a word to them while they are urinating at the Urine Stall. Its a question of having some adab.

Originally posted by Caano Geel: khayr for you i think max romeo's chase the devil might be suitable theme tune ---- Lucifer son of the mourning, I'm gonna chase you out of earth! I'm gonna put on a iron shirt, and chase satan out of earth I'm gonna put on a iron shirt, and chase the devil out of earth I'm gonna send him to outa space, to find another race I'm gonna send him to outa space, to find another race Satan is an evilous man, But him can't chocks it on I-man So when I check him my lassing hand And if him slip, I gaan with him hand I'm gonna put on a iron shirt, and chase satan out of earth I'm gonna put on a iron shirt, and chase the devil out of earth I'm gonna send him to outa space, to find another race I'm gonna send him to outa space, to find another race Him haffi drop him fork and run Him can't stand up to Jah Jah son Him haffi lef' ya with him gun Dig off with him bomb I'm gonna put on a iron shirt, and chase satan out of earth I'm gonna put on a iron shirt, and chase the devil out of earth I'm gonna send him to outa space, to find another race I'm gonna send him to outa space, to find another race Satan is a evilous man, But him can't chocks it on I-man So when I check him my lassing hand And if him slip, I gaan with him hand I'm gonna put on a iron shirt, and chase satan out of earth I'm gonna put on a iron shirt, and chase the devil out of earth I'm gonna send him to outa space, to find another race I'm gonna send him to outa space, to find another race Move ya with your gun Mi sey fe lef' ya with your bomb... --- Yes, dread (caanoo geel), Satan needs to be Chased OUT. Dats a baaad man tune. Guess, the farax' are HIJACKING this thread. On my drives to work this week(tape cassette/cd drive doesn't work), I have heard this song on the radio called 'SO SICK'. Its real HEAVY!

Originally posted by Simply_I: Alxamdulillah................. I have noticed every one is so friendly at last. I see no virtual violence or vile language..........maybe thats an indication that we all have the same final GOAL..."To rebuild our country". Alxamdulillah...hope this continues. While reading the posts I am surprised that i now agree with what some ppl who were my opponents are saying like Ibtisam, xinfaniin etc.. I wonder where waterfall has gone.oh well KEEP IT UP PPL!! and bye for now. PS:i would like to apologise to Bile from cambridge, he worked hard to be where he is. And no i dont think he sold his soul to DEvil. Salamz, It is the end of January is one of the most depressing times of the year, so that might explain the 'CALM' like feeling on SOL.

'Take benefit of five before five: your youth before your old age your health before your sickness your wealth before your povertylist] your health before your sickness your free time before you are preoccupied and your life before your death. ' Sahih - Narrated by Ibn Abbas & collected in al-Haakim & others. Inshallah, this will be of benefit to some nomads. Alhamdulillah calaa kuuli xaal wa acuudhi billah miin xaali axul an naar!

I don't think that Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. There is a much...much...bigger and new Religion that is overtaking every other religion and it grows at times-exponentially! Can you guess what Religion that is?

Thanks for the responses and participating in the poll.

Originally posted by Liban The Man: What he means is that you're a better tour guide than a religious debater, which I would agree with. Your description of Canada is right on the button, except that you forgot about the wild coyotes which roam freely through our igloo-filled cities. SB, I was giving you an accolade. SB, take a breather for a min. and lets not turn this into a sol popular 8+ pg spread.

Originally posted by Bishaaro: quote:Originally posted by Khayr: When I hear dat all I can think of is... Baby turn around and let me see that sexy body go BUMP....BUMP.... BUMP Eeeuuu! I knew it. I knew u were a phony Sheikh. Refer to an earlier post of mine wherein I said tht its an SOL MOB rule-Religious people are to be dull and void of Humor and Personality! You proved me right! Easy on up with the SPEAR CHUCKING! :cool: There are no internet accesses from the Caves!

Originally posted by Katrina: Beats me why but I luv this song and tend to sing it out loud quite often. He sure does make it sound glamourous with his creamy & sultry voice. No Khayr, I don't need a lecture on the virtues of a Muslim woman. I'm In Love With A Stripper Goddamn Lil Mama U know u thick as hell u know what im sayin Matter fact After the club u know what im talkin bout Me and my niggas gone be together u know what im sayin I aint gon worry bout them really though Im just lookin at u Yea u know U got them big *** hips god damn! Got the body of a goddess Got eyes with a peak of brown eyes see you girl Droppin Low She Comin Down from the ceiling To tha floo Yea She Know what she doin Yea yea yea She doin that right thang Yea yea yea yea ea I Need to get her over to my crib and do that night thang Cause I'm in love with a stripper She poppin she rollin she rollin She climbin that pole and I'm in love with a stripper She trippin she playin she playin Im not goin nowhere girl im stayin I'm in love with a stripper Out of all the girls she be the hottest Like n the way she break it down i see u girl Spinnin wide And She lookin at me Right in my eyes Yea She got my attention yea yea yea Enough to get me to mention I Need to get her over to my crib and do that night thang Cause I'm in love with a stripper She can pop it she can lock it Take the pinderas down im bout to see this sexy girl In My bed She don't know what she is doin To my head Yea She turnin tricks on me Yea Yea Yea She dont even know me Yea yea yea ea I'd have got her over to my crib to do that night thing Cause I'm in love with a stripper Katrina 'Hurricane' Farax Girl, thats the shizzy... When I hear dat all I can think of is... Baby turn around and let me see that sexy body go BUMP....BUMP.... BUMP

Originally posted by Socod_badne: I think many of you are missing out on the Great White North ie Canada. The land of the free and brave. Aside from Eskimos in snow ploughs chasing around and scaring the pajams out of pedestrians, mothers breast feeding their babies in public and occasional sight of infamous people with hairy palms and webbed feet, Canada is a cool place. It has unmatched natural beauty, DUH!, along with warmest, most friendliest people in the world. SB, you're in the wrong line of business of Hate Mongering vis-a-vis Religion! You need to take up TRAVEL AND TOURISM! You look like you would do well as a Travel Host.

Originally posted by Curling Waterfall: Every person takes the limits of their own field of vision for the limits of the world - Arthur Schopenhauer CW, Do you see with One Eye? Ooh, the Irony-Ya Allah! :rolleyes:

Salamz, How come these new shows Family Guy, American Dad etc. have forgotten about SUBTLE HUMOR? :confused: Every joke is OVERKILLED and BLATANT. Also, the jokes are becoming RACIER every week. The Simpsons has fallen prey to this too. I don't think that Children can watch these shows Anymore b/c the content is just too filthy with at times-NO BOUNDARIES.

Kobe and 81 points!!! Whats this guy on and what happened to the reast of his team? Do they just stand around as dummy pieces to collect their Million dollar cheques!

Salams, Originally posted by bilan: let's take care of our problems, we have seen tons of these articles criticizing how western women are not happy,taken advantage of,raped,and they aren't liberated,but is that our problem,let the westerners worry about their problem,why worry about other societies especially when muslim are denied their basic rights such as their right to education,marriage,divorce,and respect. if you think that muslim women do not get depressed then volunteer to any community based centers,i am sure for a while you will stop worrying about western women and their problems. Why worry about them you say? Well, because they Implicitly and as of late in some countries, EXPLICITLY are trying to CONVERT the MUSLIMS to INTEGRATE and ASSIMILATE into Western Societies. This is done through the constant bombardment of class peers telling you HOW you should think...Co-workers questioning your Religious view an issue and viewing you as being 'ANCIENT' in thinking...through the Mediums of Television shows,news reports, ads etc..... Why, you can't go a DAY, an hour, a minute, without this DE-PROGRAMMING of the MUSLIM MIND The Negatives of Western Ideals is often overlooked and underplayed for the Muslim b/c they are always reminded of the 'GOOD LIFE' that Westerners provide for them. For a little food on your plate and shelter, you, the Muslim get to trade in your MIND, your HISTORY, your Islamic Personality. What a great deal-right? Originally posted by Legend of Zu It is time that Muslims start focusing on the social ills towards the Muslim women. We are frequently reminded that western women are not really liberated but depressed...and…what about the Muslim women? Why dont we reevaluate how the Muslim women are not given their Allah given rights, you dont see articles tackling their roles in Muslim society, empowerment of the Muslim women.. A couple of centuries ago women in western world were given the least regards let alone giving their rights to vote or hold any significant position. However, the western world with their social ills have moved towards their goals. Western women fought for their rights (whatever that might be - from getting rid off clothes to positioning themselves to hold important places in the western governments). For once Muslims need to reexamine their own backyard and see what happened to the Muslim women's rights and their empowerment within the light of Islamic teaching. why can't we focus on our selves. if you ask me…pointing fingers at westerners for every social ill we have is just getting tiring and sounds ridiculous to me. Legend, The Case of Muslim women being Oppressed is been OVERKILLED. Why thats all we here whenever an ISLAMIC VIEWPOINT on a particular subject is brought up. e.g. Shariah law The good in Muslim Women, interms of following their Islamic Tradition and not Western Ideals is often CRITIQUED, especially by new age, western mind fed-Muslims. Just the other night, my wife went to a somali gathering and everyone's favorite Poet-TOGANE was present. Well, Togane was spewing a whole lot of Confusion about Muslim Women and he said something like 'We need more Muslim Women Presidents etc...'...needless to say everyone was clapping and yelling Amin. My wife yelled out 'IstaghfurulAllah' infront of the crowd and told him straight that it wasn't in the Islamic Tradition saxib and that what Togane was saying was nothing but HUBRIS. I wasn't there, but needless to say, it was a proud moment for me-Alhamdulillah! Take Pride in your Tradition, nomads and stop being so SELF-DEFEATIST!!!

Ngonge, For some reason I got the picture that you were talking to yourself INFRONT of the Mirror, Saxib. I don't see what the fuss here is all about, the Admin. has done a great job, Alhamdulillah. Its a simple request to Apologize be it Private or Public.... Let it go people and move on.....this is starting to sound like a Senate Meeting :rolleyes:

Salamz, But hey,I don’t think we need to interfere in their business,but I think the least I can do as a muslim is hate,despise it and of coz speak against it. Masha Allah, walaal! Well said! This is what the muslim can do inshallah and should do as the hadith says "Whoever amongst you sees anything objectionable, let him change it with his hand, if he is not able, then with his tongue, and if he is not even able to do so, then with his heart, and the latter is the weakest form of faith." At the very least, abhor that which goes against your religion. There is no need to Advocate for it! Funny enough today at Jumma, I heard a very PRO-Liberal talk that sounded so subserviant...I thought that the Beatles 'IMAGINE' lyrics were going to be recited in place of the quran. I was shocked because the Khateeb(person giving the sermon) was advocating these ideas and encouraging muslims to follow along.... Xiin said: And how does one deal with such a broken man, dear nomads I ask? You just ignore b/c you're NOT the one with an Inferiority complex! You know your Identity and alhamdulillah, take some pride in it!

Originally posted by Callypso: Absolutely. Such as blacks and whites eating in the same restuarant in the US. It was illegal in parts of the southern United States as recently as the 1960s. I'm sure the reason people decided that racial segregation was immoral wasn't because of the struggles of the Civil Rights-era activists. I'm sure it's because Hollywood is run by secularistic Blacks, who made movies and shows that portrayed sympathetic and funny black characters (Sidney Poitier, anyone?). This then 'groomed' ignorant whites so that they mistakenly think blacks should have 'human rights'and then they were duped into being 'selfish' and letting blacks sit on the bus seat right next to them. What next? Blacks as mayors of major cities? Blacks in the US Supreme Court? Why do things that were unacceptable become acceptable? Could it be that people were bigots before, and they've become enlightened? Callypso, Taking a PART of something and making it the WHOLE thing-i see. Segregation in the states is still a REALITY saxib, just go to any thriving Metropolis-NYC, Chicago, Detriot, D.C. and you will see it. The laws were made to give the allusion of 'RACIAL INCLUSION' b/c of POPULAR SENTIMENT. It would have made them look BAD in the eyes of the world and it made Economic Sense to do so. So its a matter of Convienance to Governmental Agenda i.e. Economics Why else would Ab Lincoln 'Abolish Slavery', if it didn't make more SENSE not to Feed and House Black folks but have them HOmeless and begging to work for you-diff. is now they have to Pay RENT and FOOD, and still get paid CRUMBS-min. wage! So its got nothing to do with becoming ENLIGHTENED, becoming more CONSCIOUS or becoming more EDUCATED. These are just cliches that serve the Purpose-Rallying People's Sentiments! Callypso said: So long as two (or more) adults consent to do whatever they do behind closed doors, it's none of my concern. The difference is that it is not just BEHIND CLOSED DOORS but in the MEDIA-T.V., INTERNET, NEWSPAPERS etc... The whole society breathes it and is DESCENTISIZED to it, so much so that it becomes ACCEPTABLE and even ENCOURAGEBLE. BEHAVIOR! Callypso said: The thing is, you are probably a big supporter of liberalism so long as it suits YOUR best interests. Why can't the Religion oriented people utilize it, while everyone else can and does? Callypso, I sense STRONG BIASES! :rolleyes: ACLU and demand your rights be protected. It's only when liberalism defends the rights of all those other unsavoury people who would be so much better off doing things your way, that you get a little hot under the collar. Callyspo, When Liberalism says that it protect the rights of Everyone but there are DIFFERENT standards for the MUSLIM or anyone that is PRO-RELIGION, then there is a problem and when Religious rights are being truncated and trumped by every other right-then there is a problem! When a Muslim or a Catholic is being told that you have to ACCEPT what your RELIGION is against, then there is a problem. When a Muslim's thoughts are being LEGISLATED, then there is problem and liberalism at the end of the day is SELF-SERVING. Callypso said: Wait, because France banned the hijab in public schools, I'm a hypocrite? Does that mean you are a terrorist because some Muslims fly passenger planes into buildings? But ofcourse! Muslims are labelled as Terrorist due to the action of a few... ....and yeah, we don't see you typing pgs worth of response if an issue such as Banning Hijab in France came up. The proof is in the writing saxib.

Originally posted by Socod_badne: True except for things like stealing, killing, lying, raping, pedophilia... do you see it now? You should, by now at least, see where the fault in your reasoning lies. 'A Man with a Full Belly can't understand one with an Empty Belly' What is so relative and subject to sentiments about outlawing unlawful killings, rap, theft etc? Aren't these the epitome of reasoning and rationality derived choices? What is Right today can easily become WRONG tomorrow, all subject to say a People's Referundum, a democratic election, media coverage etc. It is POPULAR SENTIMENT of people that determines what is RIGHT and Wrong. Why else would MEDIA play such an important role in Elections when most people don't know enough about a particular subject. i.e. party canadates, issues such taxation etc. Callypso said: The same impulse that allows these Canucks to consider "open marriages" none of their business is the same impulse that suggests to them that polygamy should not be illegal. Except one follows with the Popular Sentiment of today and the other-Polygamy is associated with Religion, hence why the Majority of People are against it. Whenever the later is mentioned, the PEOPLE scream and kick and bring about the issue of 'WOMEN'S RIGHTS' to suppor their anti-religion Biases!!! Westerners have values and morals because of their openness. Closed societies have no values or morals. Was this a typo saxib? or maybe you were heavily sedated with medication? Care to explain because I am not catching the point. "Live and let others live"....the way i see it its their Life and choice to swing, hang out in swingers club and so forth.... so far as they are keeping it to themselves...Its free country..... But it is Openly Publicized and no one was APOLOGIZING for it.

They forgot their flag What shall we say about it since they decided to MOCK everyone elses flags?

Salamz, I just want to ask this question inshallah to some of the nomads that might have knowledge about Shiekh Albanee. I know that he recently passed away (1999-i think) but from what I have read (on-line)about some hadiths, Shiekh Albanee seems to hold ALOT OF WEIGHT when it comes to judging the chain of transmission of a HADITH. I understand his is a muhadith, laakin how can he classify a hadith SAHIH (Most Correct) and another DAEEF(weak)? This is not meant to berate, or attack him. I am just inquiring and a little puzzled as to how a 20th century scholar can categorize hadith as SAHIH and Daeef. Fi Amanillah

Originally posted by Legend of Zu: quote:Originally posted by Khayr: quote: Originally posted by Legend of Zu: The word principle is too vague for this occasion. Every princple has certain degree of tolerance attached to it meaning it depends what princple is conflicting with Pay. Cheers Example -Your Boss won't give you time for SALAT. Salat (Principle) or Caano for the kids (Pay) Assuming that you have exhausted every other venue and every other means of reaching solution (hence Negotiating skills play important part here)...I say Leave (dont compromise your religion) ..and Then Sue the damn Boss... Cheers What about if you have a family (wife and kids)? Who will put food on the table and pay for the rent tomorrow? What if your Boss wants you to ACCEPT something that CONFLICTS with your RELIGION. e.g. you need to be PRO-ABORTION or your BOSS or co-workers asks you what your stance is about certain ISLAMIC issues and puts you on the spot.

Originally posted by Kashafa: "It sends out a clear message: Don't F*ck with the Jews" -Steve, a Mossad Assasin, on a operation that resulted in 'collateral damage' I went and saw Speilberg's Munich last night. As usual, the Beard knocked it out of the park. A lil bit too long but well-worth it's $7.50. The movie deals with the aftermath of the Munich massacre and the Israeli response. Which brings me to the Damadola massacre. Where's our response ? Where's the response of the Muslims ? My bad, I forgot we don't count: weak, divided, and worth about two cents in Chinese money. So with Pakistan being a proud, sovereign country, they're gonna show the world that you just can't come in and bomb the hell out of a Pakistani village, killing scores in the process, right ? Surely that curry-eating, Attaturk-worshipping diminutive dictator is gonna do something . You bet. That something consisted of summoning the US Ambassador and, check this, condemning the attacks. Wow. 20 Pakistani citizens are blown to pieces in the middle of the night and the best you can do is a summons and a protest ? Besides growing some nuts, you are in serious need of a brain transplant, General Pervert 'Turk' Busharraf. I didn't catch the point/theme of the movie. Was it: -Issreali assasins are just following their orders, so when they Kill, they are Assasins, but when the Arab kill, they are Terrorist. -There is NO POINT to the Issreal-Palestanian conflict, they are BOTH WRONG, so lets all LOVE ONE ANOTHER! -Israeelis are HUMANS and they too have emotions. -I'm Stevven Spieldbergg and I'll keep making movies about my people because I've the money and the political backing. :confused: :confused: :confused:

Originally posted by Legend of Zu: The word principle is too vague for this occasion. Every princple has certain degree of tolerance attached to it meaning it depends what princple is conflicting with Pay. Cheers Example -Your Boss won't give you time for SALAT. Salat (Principle) or Caano for the kids (Pay)

Salamz, Just wanted to ask the sol nomads in here if they have every been put in a situation at a work place and there was a conflict in your set of principles and your job. Which one did you choose? Which one would you choose if put to that test tomorrow?