oba hiloowlow;914120 wrote: LOL i have no idea what Luqun is walahi, as for dhako waa qoor aka neck according to me Luqun is Waamo dialect...from Jubooyinka all the way to NFD...

I don't think Alpha is that gross; cleaning his eyes with his bare fingers...the man has class me thinks...

oba hiloowlow;914101 wrote: Axmed cawad Rabsha I thought I was a qaraami aficionado; how come I've not heard of him? Is he of the young crop as well?

Alpha Blondy;914107 wrote: excellent thread. abdiaziz jarmal is the best of the new qaraami musicians. . Excellent; how could I forget Queen Khadra. I have not heard of abdiaziz; samples?

Haatu;914098 wrote: Horta wax walbo waxaa ka horeysaa in lawada garto 'Qaraami' waxa looga jeedo. Haatu you are begining to sound like a scientist... Most people associate qaraami with "old" and I agree with you definitions are good. In my mind, they are simple songs with a simple instrument like the oud/kaban, maybe plus a drum and a beautiful voice. The image I get when I hear the word "Qaraami" is that of Binti Cumar Gacal singing "Anigoo Balad Xaawa Jooga":

oba hiloowlow;914101 wrote: Axmed cawad Rabsha Hit me with the youtube videos or links to audios please!

Does Cumar Dhuule have an equal? I think not...how about you guys? What do you think? Who is you favourite qaraami artiste and why?

Apophis;914037 wrote: The Sun revolves around those with power, it just happens they are white. Big deal. So you are a "pragmatist"?

Abu-Salman;914078 wrote: So you are neither student of humanities nor sentimental idealist but captivated by social sciences theories? I guess you are one of the few ecclectic people that may be programmer or chef but well-versed in history or poetry afficionados; it's interesting to be curious of fields way outside your own instead of usual foot/fadhi-ku-dirir hobbies. Couldn't have said it better myself! I embrace the Islamic concept of knowledge in a holistic way; for me, I read and study anything and everything that interests me, I don't compartmentalize knowledge, anything that looks benefiting, I go for it! Eclectic is the best term to describe me - I like that. Even my taste in music and other ordinary/every-day things is eclectic!

Abu-Salman;914058 wrote: Qansax, you must be a psychology/social sciences student, those tend to be my thoughts too. I was too nostalgic even as a child and in good times and generally very sentimental (vacations, sega megadrive, get esp. attached to people too etc). It has good sides and inconvenient ones too, I guess difference is needed. True dat - difference makes life fun. I can't imagine all my siblings being like me, goodness gracious; life would be truly and utterly boring. I am not a trained psychologist/social science student, but I am fascinated by the human mind and any subject area that touches on human life and how humans organize themselves - psychology, sociology, anthropology, political science, etc - naturally fascinates me.

somalee;914034 wrote: Nepotist is the ''smiley'' president. I don't know anything about you and Che, are you nepotists too? The president is notoriously known for appointing to office people who are close to him by blood or otherwise. He has an ungodly obsession with his relatives and all Somalis know it. The ''New blood'' party may be literally referring to the blood of his own relatives. Thanks for the clarification. I have no information about the president's hiring practices - I leave that to the experts on the forum. But good to support what you are saying with evidence, because it is easy to just say what's on our minds...

somalee;914027 wrote: A hopeless nepotist trying to bring back hope that has evaded us for two decades? How great.. Explain yourself? Nepotist - me or Che or both? The hope is THERE and it is PALPABLE and even Mr Smiley's worst enemies will concede that; so deal with it.

SeeKer;898010 wrote: Perhaps but then does it merit the question why we do it and if we can exploit this ability? If we as humans can manipulate our memory stores then can one say guard or break into someone's memory stores and tell a different version of their history? Make our enemies into friends or vice versa? I don't mean to jump down the rabbit hole but the possibilities are endless in what one can do once they break into your memory banks don't you think? Plenty of studies show the memory is malleable and can be falsified easily, yet most of us would believe a witness on the stand saying she saw so and so shoot a man especially if collaborated by another witness. What then separates a true memory from a false one, or are all memories a false construct? Isn't corroboration by other witnesses proof that what happened really happened and is not the imagination of just one person? You are right - humans have selective amnesia, especially when the past is not altogether a happy one. We tend to do the old "accentuate the positive eliminate the negative" jingle...If you take this to its logical conclusion, it explains why folks run mad when something terrible happens. Your mind just can't deal with it so it just shuts down. I am talking of an otherwise healthy person here, minus any genetic predisposition. We know of course madness runs in families... Also people are different. Some are sentimental and kinda romantic - others just get on with it. We tried inheriting our dead father's house an am like "sell the damned house and let's split the money" and some of my siblings think am stark raving mad for having the audacity to say that because the old house has a lot of sentimental value for them. Am not saying I don't have a sentimental/romantic bone in my body, just that it is a spectrum and on a sliding scale some tilt towards the 100% and others towards the 0% or thereabout. Also, sentiment is "situational", images of happier times usually come when we are sad and want things to get better. If you are having a ball, it is unlikely you will be attached to moth-eaten shirt of a long-dead uncle...

Sensei;913851 wrote: To actually understand Umar's qualities, one must listen to the below : Thanks; will do so and revert.

Alpha Blondy;913836 wrote: sounds excellent. at this fragile early stage of your work relationship try not to impress too much. leave some of the talents and skills for another day. also don't be too eager to impress with mere words but impress with practical examples. drop subtle hints of your competences here and there. when going through your responsibilities and JD, try your utmost to be realistic. don't burden yourself with ambitious targets and what have yous. work ethic, punctuality, contributions, social events and tedious office politics are crucial. use selective honesty but always remain elusive and desired. i'll be going through my new JD and objectives fairly soon and i would appreciate any advise you can provide. keep me updated bro. thanks. al. Thanks for the advice - following it to the letter, calmed ma a$$ down and keepin it real.. will update you and compare notes as it unfolds.

Alpha Blondy;913924 wrote: the term 'world music' is a rather ridiculous term and a seemingly easy mistake of classification that is often made. naming an entire works of arts and subsuming it under a broad term like 'world music' is a great insult to the culture, traditions and heritage of the people of the global south. the 'world music' genre is, I think an attempt to encapsulate music from various places around the world and as though everything is directly contra-distinct to western music - music from more 'traditional sources’ and particularly those from the lesser nodes of global networked society is 'othered', and collectively grouped together.... despite their apparent diversity and the richness they offer. surely, ‘world music’, is place-specific and unique to its places of origin? ‘world music’ musicians have been commodified as objects of desire that puts western audiences within touching distance of exotic far-flung places, how voyeuristic! similarly, it caters to the 'cultured' nouveau riche-gentrified-intelligentsia classes, who have proliferated in the last 15 to 20 years. this vicious contraction of sorts restricts plurality and choice and evidently show us how the patronising foggy 'tokenism' of the west has reduced the cultural value of these works of art. furthermore, the paternalism of the overarching white cultural superstructure seeks to provide a controlled pedestal to these ‘smaller’ and ‘seldom heard voices’ to western audiences but also severely promotes and indeed propagates the mainstream western music industry's manufactured BS to far flung corners of the world. in nigeria and kenyan and across the continent, ethnic works of arts are being replaced by MTV induced BS of the type we're constantly inundated with by the mediums of music in today's 21st century social network age. i suppose, the superior western production, marketing and distribution system, will always eclipse ‘world music’ and 'world music' musician's meagre streams of opportunities but the sad reality is; the western cultural imperialist superstructure will continue to dominate music of the world by its already devastating cultural hegemony regime, and indeed will continue to subsume other cultures under this 'globalisation façade'. it appears the farther a countries is from western centres of cultural gravity, the more it’s been 'ethnicised' for consumption. music must always be considered in terms of place of origin and no matter how 'cultured' one might be, one must understand there will always be barriers of entry into other cultures. westerners seek to have insights into other cultures through the arts and by listening to the world music of that particular country. and yet conscious cultural critics like myself appreciate and wholly understand; it doesn't make you more familiar with the said culture, it just means you like listening to the music of that country and nothing else. A young Edward Said in the making; I see you are writing your own version of Orientalism and have spent a great deal of time in the lecture halls of "subaltern studies" - you rock man, tell them! This "othering" of non-reer galbeed peoples and taking the west as the Sun around which the planets (like us less-worthies) revolve is nothing short of dressed up racist BS. It is not an issue of self-esteem, it is calling a camel with bad breath by its name - an ugly and revolting beast.

oba hiloowlow;913907 wrote: Watch from 0:40 " frameborder="0" allowfullscreen> Imagine chewing in the dessert and listening to this ahla mirqaan Ab fab! Is that Saado Ali Warsame in red posing as a Tuareg woman. Lol

Our women rock; big up. They have held us together through thick and thin, enough of this macho BS. Miyiga iyo magaalo, our women are the most hard-working Soomaalis I know...

I think this smiley guy plus Shirdoon of the Raajo Party are bringing some hope back...Kudos, albeit an early one. You might say, hope my foot, who eats hope - but it is a very powerful tool to heal a benighted people...

I stumbled on this "Somali Beauty" mini-blog and was intrigued: http://somalibeauty.tumblr.com/ Spent quite a bit of time on it.

Haatu;913802 wrote: lol I fell face first into that one didn't I? Yup; you did! Next time read between the lines :cool:

Cumar (RA) is my favourite; I wish I could be 25% the man he was...

Haatu;913789 wrote: War when it comes to the rest of Kenya we are a minority featherweight. We have no legs to play with the Big Boys. As for this: lol war bax Af Soomaali soo baro Firstly, all Somalis call it ceeb. Secondly, the reason that's called ceeb is because it is ceeb ama wax laga xishoodo. So, we can gauge from this that this is a slang term being used in a different context from its original one. Haatu, Haatu; you are so gullible. Can't you see am playing with your mind bro? I will give you a break lol, Lord knows you get enough bashing from Apo...

Haatu;913791 wrote: Wow. What a lot of posts in one go Qansax. What do you work as? PS: you had to remind me of xaax didn't you I like responding to questions clearly and concisely! Sorry about the xaax; it was too good to let go. What do I work as? Jack of all trades, master of none...

oba hiloowlow;913653 wrote: The oud/kaban is mos def arab influence, in fact you buy the best ones in the Gulf Arab states. Also Somali music, like Arabic doesn't use the full octave, just pentatonic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scale_%28music%29? Where does the shareero for Banadiri music come from do you know?