^^cos its blighty

How did you correct their prayer Xan?

^^lol, no but a bunch of afghanis on a boat were found drifting into the beach one night. They were heading for UAE lol

^^Again? Cambarro A certain man's 24 room Palace on the beach (incl Gymnasium, Mosque, home theatre, swimming pool, gazeebos etc) in Oman Even met the guy ps this top secret i'm not even supposed to tell anyone. Ever been searched at gun point (M16) to get into work evey morning?

Originally posted by NGONGE: ^^^ Still, if you say there aren't that many, does that mean all the ICU mullahs and their supporters were fakes? Why are so many kids here watching whats her name (the Egyptian one who sings) than the numerous Islamic/decent channels and kids in UK are watching Islam Channel?

NG, observations saxib, observations. But your right a divisive argument.

^^so whats the difference?

^^Nothing can be proven akhi. But by observations only. Maybe Islam is not 'In the West' (mosques/scholars etc) but is there an argument in the practice of Islam being better practiced in western countries than in Muslim countries?

^^Jazaka Allahu Khayra. It should come in handy soon IA

Sorry to say but he will probably get approx 3 months then a deportation if that.

^^No saxib. The projects are already complete. One does involve a Royal Family though,,,

Husband stabs wife 15 times for seeking divorce Dubai: A trial court heard yesterday that a husband stabbed his wife 15 times because she asked for a divorce. "Killing you is better than divorcing you," the husband reportedly shouted, who was drinking heavily at that time, the court heard. "How dare you call the police. I am your husband. You are an impolite woman," the 20-year-old Somali wife, F.A., quoted her husband in her statement to the Dubai Public Prosecution. The court charged the 23-year-old Somali husband, A.H., with consuming liquor and attempting to murder his wife in a hotel room. F.A. who was saved after she was rushed to hospital said: "My husband asked me to come to the hotel and meet his uncle. We quarrelled over a juice bottle which I suspected contained liquor. Besides, his uncle was not there." She said her husband was outraged when she asked him for divorce "because of his drinking. He locked the door from inside ... then repeatedly stabbed me until I passed out," alleged the wife who was treated for injuries in her thigh, wrist, belly, chest and face. gulfnews.com

^^Because they are kids. Arabs, Europeans, Chinese it doesnt matter. Cant we be concerned for Somalis AND others or do we have an 'exclusivity' contract with Somalis?

I also remember the old rivalry between Al Shacb and Al Wasl football clubs, Northy, how are they both doing now? Not that i follow these weaklings they footballers but Al Wasl this year who won both the League and Cup! Faarax Brown, hip hop junkie? I bet you thought Mase was hip hop soomaaha?

A Look at the Generation Gap By Selma Cook Even though there is so much overwhelming evidence that the world is in this great mess simply because mankind, on a massive scale, is striving to follow its collective desires, each successive generation is bound and declares that it is right. Mankind has such a limited perception of things; we only see things according to the angle where we stand, and it is impossible to see things comprehensively—hence we disagree most of the time. Any disagreement or conflict requires an effort to overcome it and this includes the problems associated with the generation gap. In the midst of all the confusion and conflict amid feelings of self-righteousness, a lot of generalizations are made and injustice is done. Older people usually say they know everything and younger people usually say that older people don’t know anything at all and don’t understand anything. Perhaps one of the parties is right and perhaps both of them are wrong! Only Allah knows. But it is true to say that not all teenagers are troublemakers and rebellious, and it is also true to say that not all parents neglect their kids; certainly not all parents are abusive. The media plays an important role in confusing the young and the old about their roles in life and how they should see each other. It is trendy for young people to buck authority and disobey their parents, and likewise many older people sit together and complain about the younger generation without acknowledging their positive points. Both sides of the gap need to be objective, kind, and openhearted. Both sides need to learn to appreciate each other and learn from each other’s special perspectives. Believing in and practicing Islam bridges all gaps, even the generation gap. In the days of the Prophet (peace be upon him) we had examples like Usamah ibn Zaid, who led the Muslim army when he was only 17 years old after the death of the Prophet (peace be upon him). Many of the older and renowned Companions fought under his command. Also, `Ali ibn Abi Talib was loved and respected from a young and tender age. He was only 10 years old when he accepted Islam and accompanied the Prophet (peace be upon him) everywhere. When we look at such examples, we notice that when it comes to respect, either from the old to the young, or the young to the old, it is based on decent and moral behavior. The people who were worthy of respect were respected because morality was valued. Some people are easy to love and respect because of their characteristics and behavior; while with others you have to dig a little deeper to find the goodness that may lie hidden under mounds of shyness, aggression, defensiveness, hostility, aloofness, or fear. But if you care to be patient and spend some time, you’ll surely find that buried treasure that will enrich your lives. Read more,,,,,

^^bal kamrada muu soo-eego?

I do miss Hovis Hi-Bran and Allinson Wholemeal. Here we have bread you eat and you still think you havnt eaten anything.

^^no saxib. The blame lies with those who left them like that. May they all fully recover inshAllah

'Islam is in the west'. Any truth in this? There is some truth in that and it depends on how you look at things. Would your kids become better Muslims in say Dubai or London? Allahu aclam but some of the things I see here in a Muslim country/region I simply do not like. Not to say it doesnt happen in London but,,,, First take a trip back home Ngonge: oops I forgot, you are scared to go! In agreement with Cambarro and Xan here ya NG. The difficulties in maintaing in the west makes one that bit more determined (if he/she is determined). Just the bad manners gets to me more than anything,,,,,,

People who have never lived in an Arab state will never understand Arabs. I would argue that most Arabs treat Somalis well. Other non-Arab Africans are not treated so well in places like the KSA as many are beggers (not an excuse). Morroco is a bad place for a black African so in that sense I agree with Peacenow but its a racism issue rather than an 'enemy' we need to counter.

There is one project I have under my belt which will beat any other SOLer's project. Actually make that two

SW Like wise. An elephant's dung and all that,,,, EMP, you say tribal fiefdom? Who refused entry to people of another tribe into 'their' land? Sorry, thats a sore topic i forgot. Wash before pulling your trousers up!

SW I know. Heres a buck now keep quiet.

^^underhandedness must be rife in Puntland maistidhi?

Remembering My Shahadah By Juan Galvan Part 2 The Decision During these three years, I tried to live as ordinary a life as possible. I tried to convince myself of my happiness. Sometimes I convinced myself that I was an atheist, and other times I thought I was at least an agnostic. I had absolutely rejected my Christian beliefs as falsehoods. I would always return to believing completely in one God. I feared the existence of God and His prophets for what such faith might mean for my future. As I was driving one Saturday morning, a red truck moved into my lane. I had no time to react; I found myself hitting it. I could have died. My left lung collapsed and I needed a chest tube to survive. I had broken ribs and a broken arm. Under these circumstances, my priorities shifted from the worldly to the spiritual. Along with my greater appreciation for the Creator came an intense desire to embrace truth. Three years before my accident, I had been given several Islamic brochures with titles such as Concept of God in Islam, Concept of Worship in Islam, and Who was Jesus?". I revisited these brochures along with comments from a Qur'an that I had borrowed. A few months later, I stepped into a mosque for the first time on a Friday afternoon. I was perplexed by the lack of shoes and chairs in the prayer area. I was very impressed with the unity as Muslims prayed together, side by side. I visited this mosque regularly for about a month before embracing Islam during the summer of 2001. My faith and courage were increasing and, eventually, I didn't care what anyone thought. I only wanted to please my Creator. Islam ended my doubts about the existence of a Creator. Islam is the true, universal religion of God. I fell in love with Islam while listening to talks about brotherhood, prayer, and charity. I found myself intrigued by these guys who found time to pray five times a day. Many were college students who had figured out ways to pray at the mosque two or three times a day. I was amazed by these people who could fast from sunrise til sunset for an entire month. I thought to myself, "Wow, that's faith!" I was impressed by the self-discipline and brotherhood among these Muslims. They lived simple lives and were happy with what they had. They lived their lives around Islam. They were very much at peace. I wanted to be one of these Muslims. More people would convert to Islam if we were better Muslims. If Armando had not been praying, I would not have known he was Muslim, and we would not have spoken. My Family and Friends After telling my dad that I had converted to Islam, he asked, "?Qué es éso?" (What is that?). I responded, "It's a religion." Then, after telling him a little about it, he replied, "?Como los Arabes?" (Like the Arabs?) I responded, "No, it's for everyone." One of my sisters asked me once, "Don't you still love Jesus? How could you do this to the Virgin Mary?" I replied, "I still love Jesus. We believe he's a prophet. There's also a chapter called Mary in the Qur'an." Unfortunately, there are many misconceptions among Americans, including Latinos. We have to educate everyone about Islam. Muslims and Christians both honor the Virgin Mary. God exists independent of reason, but the concept of God varies by religion. Many people think that Islam is a religion of Arabs. Yet, Arabs make up less than 25 percent of the entire Muslim population. And, of course, I found myself defending my religious beliefs to my family after the attacks of 9/11. Soon after the attacks, one of my sisters said something like, "That leader of ya'lls, he's gonna call a holy war." CNN should take a poll to find out how many Americans believe bin Laden is the Muslim leader. My dad asked my mom, "What'd he get himself into?" They hadn't heard from me in a while so they were a little concerned. When I talked to them, I reminded my parents that Muslims are not a gang of fifty members. There are over 1.2 billion Muslims in the world. Some people act as if some Arab in Saudi Arabia has a long list of Muslims and can call anyone on the list when he wants to blow up a building. I have much sympathy for the families that were directly affected by the 9/11 tragedy. Muslims are imperfect; whereas Islam is perfect. When I pray at a mosque, I get the opportunity to pray beside people of all races and nationalities. We don't distinguish each other by race, nationality, or social class, but only by piety. We're just Muslims. Together with a billion other Muslims, we form concentric circles around the Ka`bah in Makkah, Saudi Arabia. I can't imagine never praying beside other Muslims again. When I pray, I know that brothers and sisters from around America are praying, too. When I embraced Islam, I joined the universal brotherhood of Islam transcends all other brotherhoods. Muslims make up a global family that stems from unconditional love. Love towards your family is natural. A family's love is unconditional. Your true friends will also love you unconditionally. Islam takes what's beautiful and makes it more beautiful. If you were a good son or daughter, you might be surprised when your parents say that you have become an even better son or daughter after your conversion. I am often asked why I embraced Islam. "How does a Latino born in the middle of nowhere in Texas become a Muslim?" I am also asked about Latinos, in general. "Why are Latinos becoming Muslim?" I know that many people including my own family struggle to understand why I am now a Muslim, and I've come to better understand that coming to Islam is solely through God's guidance. His guidance is a mercy. Only through God's mercy do Muslims appear at the right place at the right time in the lives of non-Muslims to introduce them to Islam. Only through His mercy does a non-Muslim become a Muslim. A struggle occurs within everyone, every day, and everywhere. We struggle to attain what is most important for us. By embracing Islam, we tell Allah that He is the most important and that we are prepared to struggle to do what is right and to avoid what is wrong. Have patience. You do not know the happiness that your Creator has in store for you. Today, I live in Central Florida with my wonderful wife and son. God willing, one day I will speak at the Valley School to tell them that I am now a Muslim and how Islam has made me a better person. And every day I thank the Most Compassionate, the Most Merciful for all His blessings. I am a Mexican-American Muslim. All praise and thanks to Allah.