Finally. Thanks Caano Geel. Great pics there. Madina Mosque is beautiful.

Erm, thats not the point I was making. Do these terror movies, which sell and are a refelection of the times, influence the movie goer's thought process in that the ends (killing of Muslims) justify the means (kidnap, turture, do what it takes)? The more these movies are released, the more the US Military supplies equipment and approves these movies, the more such movies are nominated for awards, the more 'normal' one perceives US military action along the same lines. Those movie goers' perceptions of what is acceptable in the theatre of war would, after over 10 years of the same movie releases on the same subject with same bias, change to be more favourbale to what their government is doing. There is enough in this thread to convince you and others. Choosing not to be convinced doesn't change the fact that the above is obviously occuring. Wax fahan. ps targeted, campaigned against etc

Its like asking for proof Hollywood targeted USSR, China, Black People in the 1920s etc. Dee naga daa

Good film.

^So you say but there is plenty that does.

I don't read selectively

I think they're working on making it easier to deport him and his likes.

Afternoon all Ya is fasaxay

‘Zero Dark Thirty,’ Through a Theological Lens By SAMUEL G. FREEDMAN Published: February 22, 2013 Almost nine years ago, journalists on “60 Minutes II” and at The New Yorker revealed a trove of photographs showing the abuse and humiliation of Iraqi detainees by American soldiers at Abu Ghraib prison. The images of inmates variously stripped, hooded, leashed like a dog, piled into naked heaps and forced to simulate oral sex then spread widely, causing international outcry. Even on the patriotic home front, the revulsion was widespread. President George W. Bush called the Abu Ghraib episode “abhorrent.” Senators across party lines, having been shown more than a thousand photos, described them as “appalling” and “horrific.” At the 2013 Oscars on Sunday night, one of the nominees for best picture, indeed one of the most lauded films of the year, contains scenes of prisoner treatment that closely recreate the Abu Ghraib tactics. Yet in “Zero Dark Thirty” the use of “enhanced interrogation techniques,” including waterboarding, forms part of a heroic narrative, as a valiant C.I.A. officer tracks down Osama bin Laden. There has been much debate about the film, primarily about its historical accuracy, but one might say not the right debate, not the deepest debate. Aside from a few Hollywood dissidents like Edward Asner, it has been left largely to theologians to call the film into question not on the pragmatic ground of its fealty to facts but on the moral ground of its message: that torture succeeds, and because it succeeds we should accept it. “Our culture has almost lost the ability to have a genuinely moral conversation,” said Prof. David P. Gushee, 50, a Southern Baptist who directs the Center for Theology and Public Life at Mercer University in Atlanta. “The utilitarian-type reasoning is the only vocabulary we have. The only way we can decide what to do is whether it works. That’s a terribly impoverished moral conversation. It leaves out the question of whether torture is intrinsically right or wrong.” For the Rev. George Hunsinger, a Presbyterian minister who teaches at Princeton Theological Seminary, “Zero Dark Thirty” evoked the same kind of moral questions he associates with the American decision to drop atomic bombs on Japan. But the film has the added complication of being something that the destruction of Hiroshima and Nagasaki never were: an instant box office product. “What does it say about American culture that torture has become a form of entertainment for us?” asked Mr. Hunsinger, 67, who is involved with the National Religious Committee Against Torture. “Torture has been normalized since Sept. 11 in a way that’s unimaginable.” That normalization can be measured in specific ways. Directed by Kathryn Bigelow and written by Mark Boal, “Zero Dark Thirty” has grossed $88 million at the box office and received the top prize from the New York Film Critics Circle. It will compete in five categories on Sunday’s Academy Awards, including best picture and best original screenplay. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/23/us/a-theological-view-of-zero-dark-thirty.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 Far from highlighting that sad truth, Zero Dark Thirty lionizes those who ordered and implemented torture. In this respect, the filmmakers are complicit in reinforcing the impunity shielding the culprits. http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2013/01/20131191566253143.html

You try to take a pic of a building or road mid meel kale taagen baa ku odhanaya waar ha na sawirin

Koobkii shaaha aad saaka cabtay haduu ku kiciyey miya? Afternoon

^if you get permission of course

^ Morning all

This guy Caano Geel has let us down. There have been improvements economically mainly due to the restrictions on NGOs, tourists travelling east being eased by the government. Many people have built homes over the past couple of years. Alpha's like still have a phobia of the east though

Great thread Nuune The Blueprints for Development What we need to implement is a bottom up approach when it comes to development. When planting flower seeds in your garden, chances are, nothing will grow without good soil and clean water. What we have been guilty of in the past is the top down approach. We all know what the country(s) needs as well as what we would like. We should deal with the needs first. The first thing that should be created is an umbrella authority independent of the government tasked with the country’s urban development. Independent of the government to avoid having to start over again at every change in government. However, a close relationship with government bodies is essential. The ministries, after conducting their respective studies, would inform this umbrellas body of the country’s needs in terms of hospitals and clinics (how many bed in all cities and towns), how many schools and at what levels in all towns and cities, what areas should be reserved for housing, location of emergency services buildings, required roads and public transport etc. The umbrella authority should have departments for urban planning, transportation planning etc. These departments will have sub levels at every region. The levels would be for example: 1. Development Authority 2. Banadir Regional Transportation Authority or Jubba Regional Transportation Authority With clear processes and procedures, lines of communication and authority levels, this model would ensure the country is developed as part of a strategic development plan (2025 or 2030) and reduces the chances of conflicts and inconsistencies between regions. This set up and the processes involved would obviously be layered. For example: 1. Banadir region wants to construct a 3 lane bypass highway running north to south to the west of Muqdisho to reduce the traffic in the city. Think M25 around London. 2. The go ahead is given by the Development Authority for a Traffic Impact Study. 3. The Traffic Impact Study is done and the results suggest this would reduce traffic by 50% in inner Muqdisho. 4. The go ahead if given for a survey, design and cost estimate study by the Development Authority 5. BRTA employ a consult to do the above. 6. The cost of building the road is approved by the DA and work can proceed. 7. The work can then be tendered. The importance of controlling what needs to be built and how can’t be underestimated. If this isn’t in place you will get a haphazard, every region for itself way of doing things resulting in urban quagmires called cities. At the same time, a clear centralized approach underpinned by the strategic development plan which is underpinned by studies made by the various ministries, gets all departments and regions singing from the same hymn sheet and leaves little room for argument and political difficulties. I have deliberately ignored the issue of financing. Maybe our economists can give us some ideas. Ps, All Rights Reserved

I agree Rodgers should have kept things as they were. Why bring on Shelvey? The guy is useless. Suarez I think will stay another season.

Ngonge has been at the same place long enough to be running it now. Saxib dadkaaga shaqo sii. Start with Apo and Oba

Rahima;920024 wrote: I'm sure that it was all thanks to the Missus,lol Nope

^waa lagaa qaaday Juxa

^Do give your understanding of it

Sayid*Somal;920004 wrote: To Norf: Saaxiibkayow Abu Sahra heedhe Anba saaka qaybteeda Sirsirraan ka joogaaye Xadhiggiyo bal eeg suunka Iyo sabarka gaadiidey Iyo salabka ii qaaran Iyo suudha guudkayga Here goes Saaxiibkayow Abu Sahra heedhe - My dear friend Abu Sahra hear this Anba saaka qaybteeda – and on my part this morning Sirsirraan ka joogaaye - ??? Xadhiggiyo bal eeg suunka – look at the situation, oh star Iyo sabarka gaadiidey – and the patience?? ?? Iyo salabka ii qaaran – and my own weaponery Iyo suudha guudkayga – and [something] I’m carrying With all due respect Sayid, what on earth are you talking about?

^What do you mean 'its half term'? Take the kids somewhere.

^You're a bit late today. Maxaa dhacay? Fall over again?

:D How I would love to be in SL right about now. Hadal, sheeko iyo muran

Today? Not a gamer but the games and consoles these days are amazing and so realistic.