I don't follow gossip in papers warya. I watch all the games live. Rafa's first choice signings included those I mentioned above as well as Dosenna heh. Waar even Benayoun was sidelined for Maxi! ILl be back.

Facts? Like buying Auilani? Like the disaster Voronin? Even Kuyt was a mistake and couldn't score to save his life. Then Torres came and he was played on the right. The man was replaced by Woy and nearly got Inter relegated lol

Take off the blinkers niyow. Alonso was the be all and end all of that team. He left and it all went south after that. Rafa couldn't work with the average players he put in his position. I don't want to keep telling you where your logic is flawed dee. Rafa was great but he could only take the us so far. Alonso says that himself in the article you posted. Kuyt will be replaced by Babel this week. Waad arki.

Stop making excuses for Rafa. We finished 2nd due Alonso playing a blinder. He was the linch pin (most successful passes in the league). But you would't know cos you only have the highlights available to you badowyahow. Kuyt didn't need to track back as much as we controlled games (due Alonso's accurate passing). If that wasn't the case then why didn't he do much last season and why isnt he doing much now? Why didn't we finish 2nd last season? Waar stop making excuses and realise teams change and go through transition period when top players leave. If we go by your logic we should have at least challenged last year but oh i forgot we finished 7th and as you said it was a freak season heh whereas I said we wouldn't go anywhere. I didnt say all our players were average (as you can see in my previous post) but the majority are. They can be average and still be internationals you know. It does happen. Babel is better footballer. He has more goals per min played than Kuyt.

Tuujiye, Chelsea are finished saxib. Spend more mafia money saxib lol

NGONGE;689611 wrote: ^^ Wakaa with his sheeko ingrees ("you played in goal"). Heh. War I would prefer it if Kuyt did not play on the wing and that we had a proper winger in his place. But that does not mean that I do not appreciate Kuyt's work or that I can not see how valuable he is for the team. Adigo you live in a perfect footballing world where every midfielder is Zidane and every winger is Ronaldo. You can never (and would never) appreciate workers in a team (unless they're Macherano and the English media tells you that he 'gets stuck in). Bahasha baro, saaxib. As for our team being 'average' or having average players. That too is rubbish. They are low on confidence and these same players will be world beaters if Kenny gets them to win the next three games. For a guy who boasts about his (park football) playing days, you should at least understand that little fact. p.s. Kuyt did well when Alonso was there? Did Alonso control his feet and make him score those goals then? Did he send him subliminal messages to make those assists? Adeer kubbada baro. All playes play well when the entire team plays well (look at Torres and his current form as compared to under Roy). p.p.s By the time you come in Feb you, probably, would have changed your mind about Kuyt because we would have won a couple of games by then. Iga tag. http://fyxabialonso.tumblr.com/post/970684473/old-xabi-article-in-champions-magazine Badownimo.com ayaad wadaa dee. I like our wingers to be players who know the basics. Who have a decent first touch and can be decisive and pick out a pass. Kuyt can't do any of those things (what every decent midfielder/attacker is supposed to have) and he is in for the sake of covering the right back. I want to see a flair player, one who can take players on and put good ball into the box (Babel when played on the right). You want us to stick with Kuyt because he is a hard worker and tracks back. Who is being English? Waar stop watching MOTD and watch the games LIVE. Highlights don't show you anything. We have too many average players. Have you been watching us for the past 18 months? Not even your Rafa could get them to perform what makes you think Kenny can? One or two can punch above their weight but not all of them. Aar daawo LIVE games. We controlled games when we had Alonso. There was no need for Kuyt to track back. We played a higher tempo and controlled games hence the higher number of goals and assists. Thats why we finished 2nd. This is football basics saxib waa ku sidee? ps meet at Ciise's in Stepney pps I'm not the only LFC fan fed up with Kuyt http://forums.liverpoolfc.tv/showthread.php?t=145395 ppps Babel is staying

^I would say you haven't scored yet due to your striker being deprived of any service because your wingers are too busy tracking back. What you fail to understand (or refuse to) is that someone playing on the wing is EXPECTED to do more damage to the opposition by way of goals and assists. Tracking back is well and good but that only means the midfield is lightweight. He scored more when Alonso and Masch were in the middle. Now there is Lucas Call it showboating but thats why we are where we are badowyahow. We have very average players except for the keeper, Carra, SG and Torres. If we had some showboaters who could beat a player and deliver a decent ball into the box (without falling down 10 times beforehand) then we might have done better last season and this. Waar watch the whole play baan ku idhi. Agger is a good defender. He did very well against top class players the last time he was fit for a whole season (2006-2007). His injuries keep him from getting into top form. Getting into top form doesn't happen overnight. It takes a good 20 games but you wouldn't know that cos you played in goal Like I said I plan to be in UK next month. Lets have a long discussion

NGONGE;689543 wrote: Modern football is about donig it all, saaxib. Next you'll be telling me that Kevin Davis is a better player than Rooney because he scored more goals whilst Rooney has been playing for the team and tracking back. War look at the stats ban ku idhi, in 17 games the one that tracksback scored four goals and the one that doesn't ONLY scored six goals. Any manager in the world would choose Kuyt over Nani for these stats alone. But ball watching "Englishmen" like you would always go for the "exciting" ballarinas. It's the Arsenal ailment. Rafa made mistakes. Nobody (not even him) would argue otherwise. But none of them are the types you accuse him off. Certainly not Babel. Bahasha baro, saaxib. Heh. Selective reading baad wadaa ninyow. The one who didn't track back scored 6 and created 11 while the one who tracks back has only created 4! Stop looking at things in isolation. A right winger's PRIORITY is to create/score goals. Then you wonder why Torres hasn't been getting the supply. It would be good if we had a chalkboard for the last few games for Kuyt. His passes when he manages to control the ball and avoid falling over are not very accurate (ie he can't do the basics). He can run all day and cover the right back but his passing is crap. The modern footballer is all action but those who do track back like Rooney and Kuyt don't do it because its the done thing these days they do it because they want to or have been told to. Berbatov is a more intellegent player than Rooney and he doesn't track back. Messi and Ronaldo don't track back but they're the best modern day footballers. ps only a defensive manager would choose Kuyt over Nani

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Bob, Ngonge just can't say anything against Rafa. He knows he didn't give Babel a chance. Ngonge, looks like Nani beats Kuyt for what a winger is SUPPOSED to do (score and create). You're equating that with defending and tracking back (which is why he is picked every week)

^How could not have seen Snatch saxib? Its a classic. Guy Ritchi has made some gems. Yeah the guy with the gun is Lee from desmonds. He is many Brit films. Arch, thats a great scene. La Haine Start

This one is just brilliant

Good stuff

nuune;688511 wrote: Now I know why Norf teases you with 2 hour Burco visit I hour 45 mins I think it was

^dee it's home. You need to be amongst your own sometimes. ps want to review a proposed SL law? For free?

Oo miyaan daawadaa? Evening games start late over here. Did I tell you about my time in a Hargaisa police station? I wasn't in trouble but the xabashi kid who stole some decoration/sharaxaad from an uncle's car was after we took him there. Anyway, whilst waiting for the station cheif to send him to a cell an old man with his arm in a sling walked in and waa lagu wada qoslay. It wasn't funny but one of the officers comments 'waa odaygii shalayto la subaaxadeeyey'

Waa khayr. Mrs eating out with freinds (and shopping). Kids fast asleep and watching last week's goals. How is work? Yaad maxkamad soo taagteen maanta?

Nani was Manure's best player last year badowyahow. Bal waxaad haysid soo dhig! I hope you're brave enough to bring the Babel stats as well ps I'm in UK mid Feb for a wedding iA. Lets have a proper discussion

Maxaa la sheegay?

^waa mintid ninkani Ngonge, we have discussed Babel vs Kuyt before. I pulled up the stats and Babel had a better scoring ratio with far fewer games and most of those appearances as a sub (which looks doubly worse). That was before the season started. He isn't in the team for his attacking qualities anymore than his defending qualities. Defensive managers such as Rafa and Hodgson will favour him. Kenny didn't change too many things as the defence was his main problem. Babel was about to come on for Kuyt before he scored the penalty last week and Cruyff praises his defensive qualities (just like Rafa used to). Marka naga daa 'he is important for the team' and tell me if he is a good FOOTBALLER. This means in his position (striker come winger). I compare him against Nani, Valencia and other right wingers. You compare him with Titus Bramble. Aar bahasha baro.

Bob, ninkan Ngonge waits for Alan Hansen to tell him what happened in a game or he is reading zonal marking (which he thoought happened in open play as well lol) Tuujiska, Chelsea re finished with no money saxib lol

I said 'run'. He still has a better goal ratio than Kuyt I bet. Rafa never bothered developing him and thats where is comes short as a manager. Babel had a decent run that year we beat Arsenal in the CL and he did well scoring and assisting. Don't bring Roy into this and Kenny needs the money. Kuyt is a lump with little finess. 9 times out of ten he is miscontrolling or falling over. I blame Rafa.

The only time he was given a run in the side he did well. He will do well in Germany.

^ Waan ka qaleen. Where are Tuujiye and Oz these days? Typical Chelsea fans.